Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Mareus]

Beamdog doesn't own the license, I would rather see Atari/Hasbro/whomever give another developer a chance than having these cucks continue to fuck it up.

But after legends of the sword coast, I figure they simply don't give a fuck about the end result.

The problem is that you guys lost in the marketplace. There's just not a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the alt-right/neoreactionary/GG fringe.

If we are the fringe, than how come Anita's videos are so hated that she had to turn off the comments and ratings? If we are the fringe, how come Beamdog felt the sting? I think our numbers are greater than people think. Every single feminist video on Youtube gets massive hate, while every single anti-SJW video gets massive support.

Also, even the left (which I consider myself to be) is starting to hate on the SJWs and there is a divide on the left between regressive left (feminists, SJWs, etc) and true liberals.

 

[Grauken]

SJWs and GGs are the fringe, the rest of the world doesn't give a shit

 

[Volrath]

Beamdog doesn't own the license, I would rather see Atari/Hasbro/whomever give another developer a chance than having these cucks continue to fuck it up.

But after legends of the sword coast, I figure they simply don't give a fuck about the end result.

The problem is that you guys lost in the marketplace. There's just not a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the alt-right/neoreactionary/GG fringe.

Yeah they only sold 2 million copies of 15+ year old rebranded games.

You're such a fucking moron Jesus Christ

 

[Tacgnol]

Beamdog doesn't own the license, I would rather see Atari/Hasbro/whomever give another developer a chance than having these cucks continue to fuck it up.

But after legends of the sword coast, I figure they simply don't give a fuck about the end result.

The problem is that you guys lost in the marketplace. There's just not a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the alt-right/neoreactionary/GG fringe.

There isn't a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the SJW fringe either.

 

[mastroego]

SJWs and GGs are the fringe, the rest of the world doesn't give a shit

... but if pressed, would agree that not all games require trannification

 

[Reinhardt]

The problem is that you guys lost in the marketplace. There's just not a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the alt-right/neoreactionary/GG fringe.

From Beamdog forums:

GG will hurt Beamdog as much they hurt Kotaku - many of them aren't even sincere in their beliefs, and they have pretty much zero influence in the gaming industry, other than writing up angry emails and track down the personal details of game devs.
And if they want to boycott Beamdog, let them. Gaming shouldn't be held back by bigots, and reasonable people shouldn't want to do business with them anyway.


At the end it all comes down to monies.
Are GGs able to significantly alter the future sales? Might as well reconsider your stances.
Are they vocal minority who don't even play the game? Ignore and move on.
Wallets speak harder than words.

So yes - we shall see.

Oh, and one more:

I don't think this is going to have an effect on any future BG content because as most have said the content is undeniably of a very high calibur. Wizards wouldnbe crazy not to see that.

 

[Kem0sabe]

I don't think this is going to have an effect on any future BG content because as most have said the content is undeniably of a very high calibur. Wizards wouldnbe crazy not to see that.

There's truly no hope.

 

[Immortal]

GG will hurt Beamdog as much they hurt Kotaku - many of them aren't even sincere in their beliefs, and they have pretty much zero influence in the gaming industry

Maybe not the best example he could have found..

 

[FeelTheRads]

baulders gate is of very high calibur

 

[Prime Junta]

Beamdog doesn't own the license, I would rather see Atari/Hasbro/whomever give another developer a chance than having these cucks continue to fuck it up.

But after legends of the sword coast, I figure they simply don't give a fuck about the end result.

The problem is that you guys lost in the marketplace. There's just not a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the alt-right/neoreactionary/GG fringe.

There isn't a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the SJW fringe either.

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Never been to a gamergate site and have steered clear of all that stuff, but if wanting a BG expansion to fit in with the tone and execution of BG and BG2 makes me some sort of extremist then I'm happy to be one. Of course then a writer inserts her personal agenda as she deems these games "problematic" and Jaheira "sexist" and throws in a GG reference for good measure just to stir things up... but anyone who complains about the retarded situation must be some sort of Gamergator according to the apologists

 

[Tacgnol]

Beamdog doesn't own the license, I would rather see Atari/Hasbro/whomever give another developer a chance than having these cucks continue to fuck it up.

But after legends of the sword coast, I figure they simply don't give a fuck about the end result.

The problem is that you guys lost in the marketplace. There's just not a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the alt-right/neoreactionary/GG fringe.

There isn't a whole lot of money in catering exclusively to the SJW fringe either.

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

Worked well for Beamdog. Was the Minsc joke and the life story dump trans character really worth it?

 

[Prime Junta]

Never been to a gamergate site and have steered clear of all that stuff, but if wanting a BG expansion to fit in with the tone and execution of BG and BG2 makes me some sort of extremist then I'm happy to be one. Of course then a writer inserts her personal agenda as she deems these games "problematic" and Jaheira "sexist" and throws in a GG reference for good measure just to stir things up... but anyone who complains about the retarded situation must be some sort of Gamergator according to the apologists

I haven't even played the game (and don't intend to, I don't really care for BG and do not care at all for Beamdog's writing, what little I've seen of it). I'm just commenting on the discussion. Which is hilarious. :D

 

[Prime Junta]

Worked well for Beamdog. Was the Minsc joke and the life story dump trans character really worth it?

I have no idea of course. They have gotten a lot of free publicity though.

 

[Tacgnol]

Worked well for Beamdog. Was the Minsc joke and the life story dump trans character really worth it?

I have no idea of course. They have gotten a lot of free publicity though.

True. But as has been said before, if we go by the steam seller list, it doesn't seem to have translated into sales.

 

[Lacrymas]

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

No self-respecting "minority" person would flock to anything just because there's a "minority" character in it. We've even seen examples of trans people crucifying SoD.

 

[Tacgnol]

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

No self-respecting "minority" person would flock to anything just because there's a "minority" character in them. We've even seen examples of trans people crucifying SoD.

This. The whole trans debacle actually seems to have pissed off a lot of those minorities they were aiming at.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

I haven't even played the game (and don't intend to, I don't really care for BG and do not care at all for Beamdog's writing, what little I've seen of it). I'm just commenting on the discussion. Which is hilarious. :D

It'll be interesting to see how they do (obviously we have no idea how they'd have done without this controversy, but in general). I can't help thinking the target audience for an expansion to an RPG from the 90s is slightly different to the demographic playing Undertale or modern casual games but I guess we'll see if they rake in the cash from this.

 

[Reinhardt]

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

Gays, females and nonwhites are people too, so they mostly like same things. Do you really think, normal female or asian dude would refuse to play videogame if MC - sexy white girl?

 

[Cromwell]

well at least theyre back into mostly positive territory with the reviews on steam

 

[Tacgnol]

well at least theyre back into mostly positive territory with the reviews on steam

It fluctuates. They are currently at 70%, but 69% gets you a "mixed" on Steam I believe.

 

[Prime Junta]

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

Gays, females and nonwhites are people too, so they mostly like same things. Do you really think, normal female or asian would refuse to play videogame if MC - sexy girl?

That's a bit of a strange question actually. Sexiness is good, no?

I do think that people are more likely to buy and play a game if they find it easier to identify with the MC or other characters in it, even if few would flat-out refuse to play it if they didn't.

 

[Lacrymas]

I do think that people are more likely to buy and play a game if they find it easier to identify with the MC or other characters in it, even if few would flat-out refuse to play it if they didn't.

Do we have a source on this? I'm genuinely curious because it's strange to me said like that. I actually prefer to play a character that isn't like me.

 

[BBMorti]

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though -- and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play. Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

Gays, females and nonwhites are people too, so they mostly like same things. Do you really think, normal female or asian would refuse to play videogame if MC - sexy girl?

That's a bit of a strange question actually. Sexiness is good, no?

I do think that people are more likely to buy and play a game if they find it easier to identify with the MC or other characters in it, even if few would flat-out refuse to play it if they didn't.

That makes me concerned about the massive Jrpg following in the west

 

[Reinhardt]

I do think that people are more likely to buy and play a game if they find it easier to identify with the MC or other characters in it, even if few would flat-out refuse to play it if they didn't.

Do you really think LGBT(and many other letters) people, who played BG 20 years ago, would not buy SoD if tranny and other stuff was not here? Game without stupid shit appeal to all gamers, regardless of gender or sexuality. Games WITH stupid shit - only to those, who like this shit. And whole community>part of it. Always.