Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Ausdoerrt]

True. But as has been said before, if we go by the steam seller list, it doesn't seem to have translated into sales.

Or perhaps making an expansion for a 10+ year old game was a shit idea to begin with. Howe many BG fans actually wanted a prequel to BG2?..

Also, they seem to be doing better on the GoG sales chart. The reviews are mostly terrible though *chuckle*.

 

[Tacgnol]

Also, they seem to be doing better on the GoG sales chart. The reviews are mostly terrible though *chuckle*.

I suspect Steam is where most of their sales will come from. Though who knows, maybe they make lots of sales on their own platform and GOG.

 

[Prime Junta]

I do think that people are more likely to buy and play a game if they find it easier to identify with the MC or other characters in it, even if few would flat-out refuse to play it if they didn't.

Do you really think LGBT(and many other letters) people would not buy SoD if tranny and other stuff was not here? Game without stupid shit appeal to all gamers, regardless of gender or sexuality. Games WITH stupid shit - only to those, who like this shit. And whole community>part of it. Always.

Generally speaking, I do think that games with LGBTQ characters in them sell better to the LGBTQ demographic (unless said characters are obvious tokens). Exhibit A: BioWare.

 

[Infinitron]

It'll be interesting to see how they do (obviously we have no idea how they'd have done without this controversy, but in general). I can't help thinking the target audience for an expansion to an RPG from the 90s is slightly different to the demographic playing Undertale or modern casual games

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to believe that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

 

[Tacgnol]

I do think that people are more likely to buy and play a game if they find it easier to identify with the MC or other characters in it, even if few would flat-out refuse to play it if they didn't.

Do you really think LGBT(and many other letters) people would not buy SoD if tranny and other stuff was not here? Game without stupid shit appeal to all gamers, regardless of gender or sexuality. Games WITH stupid shit - only to those, who like this shit. And whole community>part of it. Always.

Generally speaking, I do think that games with LGBTQ characters in them sell better to the LGBTQ demographic (unless said characters are obvious tokens). Exhibit A: BioWare.

SOD suffers from the obvious token issue. Probably why quite a few LGBTQ folk are slamming it.

 

[Murk]

Heh, SoD is so bad that it brought Mareus back to posting.

 

[Reinhardt]

Exhibit A: BioWare.

CD Project doing better. And it's from someone, who don't like TWitcher.

 

[mutonizer]

Well my issue with all these (game) companies hammering in all these "minorities" is because it's fucking insulting the way they do it. I never cared, and still don't care, about races, gender and whatever shit anyone were before (in or out of games), as long as they didn't fucking rub it in my face all the fucking time as if they were the new - all beautiful - normal or some shit.

These past years though, it's being fucking hammered everywhere in movies, tv series, games, comics, books, news and somehow lotta people behave as if making x or y a minority (or just a woman, the actual majority is counted in the minority quotas now? wtf) made it a good character by default despite the fact that it was horribly written and fucking retarded, at which point you're immediately labelled some kind of -ist or -phobe.

 

[Tacgnol]

Exhibit A: BioWare.

CD Project doing better. And it's from someone, who don't like TWitcher.

CDP are actually a good example of a company that isn't pandering either way. TW3 had some LGBT characters, but they didn't feel forced.

They also didn't go out of their way to piss off the progressives, most of the TW3 butthurt from SJWs was unintentional.

 

[Space Insect]

It'll be interesting to see how they do (obviously we have no idea how they'd have done without this controversy, but in general). I can't help thinking the target audience for an expansion to an RPG from the 90s is slightly different to the demographic playing Undertale or modern casual games

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to think that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

RPG.net is SJW now? I thought they were okay a while back. I guess that satanist's curse really did have an effect.

 

[mutonizer]

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to think that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

Well, I don't know about RPG at large but I know I left my year+ roll20 group because they started putting in "safe spaces" and "shit you can't talk about" or "ways you cannot roleplay". I mean, at one point I had a "talk about racism and homophobia" with the GM because my widowed human character refused to join in on the elven orgy after a scenario. I'm not kidding.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

Thats one fucking creepy pnp group.

 

[Prime Junta]

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to think that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

Well, I don't know about RPG at large but I know I left my year+ roll20 group because they started putting in "safe spaces" and "shit you can't talk about" or "ways you cannot roleplay". I mean, at one point I had a "talk about racism and homophobia" with the GM because my widowed human character refused to join in on the elven orgy after a scenario. I'm not kidding.

:D

I find sex in tabletop RPG's creepy in the extreme. Don't think I would've made it that far.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to think that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

Agreed, but I'm not sure how much of that crowd are actually interested in a game as old as BG, I've come across many people who refuse to even consider playing something with graphics and gameplay from that era, and the little experience I had with SJW tabletop crowd was that it was all about the larping and roleplaying with even combat often falling by the wayside. Not really who I'd expect to buy an expansion to BG, but who knows perhaps I'm wrong and Beamdog will rake it in from that demographic now.

 

[Musaab]

Seeing this crap depressed me greatly, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised when the BeamDog people I follow on twitter retweet GaymerX stuff.

 

[Immortal]

ITT: We learn Prime Junta is part of Atheism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)




We also learn mutonizer has some really weird fucking friends.

 

[Prime Junta]

ITT: We learn Prime Junta is part of Atheism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)

Hu? I'm Buddhist, not atheist.

 

[mutonizer]

:D
I find sex in tabletop RPG's creepy in the extreme. Don't think I would've made it that far.

It's not about sex, that's my point
I'm french and I can and have roleplay(ed) without much issue guy on girl, guy on guy, girl on girl, thing on thing, for hours if needed, in at least two languages and never laughing nor blushing, nor taking it seriously or having it become creepy (which usualy is when one party takes things seriously).
The issue was about elves and how the whole thing was presented, which is why it's related to what Infi wrote.


...never mind, bit hard to explain

We also learn mutonizer has some really weird fucking friends

Never said they were friends.

 

[Doktor Best]

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to think that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

Well, I don't know about RPG at large but I know I left my year+ roll20 group because they started putting in "safe spaces" and "shit you can't talk about" or "ways you cannot roleplay". I mean, at one point I had a "talk about racism and homophobia" with the GM because my widowed human character refused to join in on the elven orgy after a scenario. I'm not kidding.

You sure that group wasnt about the other kind of roleplay? If they hand out strap-ons instead of dice at the begin of the evening, that would be the right time to ask them if your definition of roleplay match eachother.

 

[Lhynn]

There is a lot of money in catering to non-straight, non-white, non-male gamers though

No, there isnt.

and the large majority white, straight, male gamers don't give a flying fuck if there are more diverse characters in the games they play.

This is true, as long as its not blatant agenda pushing.

Losing the alt-right but winning the SJW fringe + gay, female, and nonwhite gamers is a net gain.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. We are talking about a fucking "olde school rpg" here, how can you be so fucking misinformed.

 

[Immortal]

ITT: We learn Prime Junta is part of Atheism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)

Hu? I'm Buddhist, not atheist.

ITT We learn Prime Junta is part of Buddhism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)

 

[Prime Junta]

ITT: We learn Prime Junta is part of Atheism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)

Hu? I'm Buddhist, not atheist.

ITT We learn Prime Junta is part of Buddhism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)

:D

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

 

[Xenich]

To be fair, a glance at RPG.net could lead one to think that anything related to tabletop is all SJW, all the time. Amber Scott herself came from that demographic. Roleplaying gaming is interesting in that both those sorts of people and stereotypical Codexian reactionaries seem to gravitate towards it.

Well, I don't know about RPG at large but I know I left my year+ roll20 group because they started putting in "safe spaces" and "shit you can't talk about" or "ways you cannot roleplay". I mean, at one point I had a "talk about racism and homophobia" with the GM because my widowed human character refused to join in on the elven orgy after a scenario. I'm not kidding.

:D

I find sex in tabletop RPG's creepy in the extreme. Don't think I would've made it that far.

Yeah, we would throw people out of games who wanted to start that shit. It really is a sign of a pathetic and mentally troubled person.

 

[Trashos]

ITT: We learn Prime Junta is part of Atheism+ but tries to put on a thin veneer of non-bias (similar to his 'Sensuki leaking it didn't bother me' veneer)

Hu? I'm Buddhist, not atheist.

Well, maybe that's why you don't understand how having someone take a huge dump on something beloved can make people angry?

(not hating on Buddhism, btw, it is one of the cooler religions/philosophies)

 

[janior]

PnP RPGs remind me of those creepy war-gaming stores with smelly nerds.