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The narrator sounds so... smug. The writing isn't great but when she narrates it becomes even worse.
This is not just smug, it reminded me of Max Payne 2: "Honey, this is a phone sex line. All we do is talk".
 

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What I really wanna is a LG zealot Paladin companion. Just imagine his/her dialog and party interations with the vampire spawn and the priestess of Shar... And romanceable succubus companion

Also wanna see lv cap raised to 5. So we can get 2d10 eldritch blast and see if fireball, Lightning Bolt and animate dead are nerfed.

Animate dead *has* been nerfed in 5e. I can only assume it works just like in tabletop.
 

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Who would have thought that 20 years later, Keldorn, the quintessential and undeniable cuck of the original saga would be so desired in a sequel.

Next thing you'll tell me is that you miss Cernd too.

Well I'm more or less saying that there's a lack of party members that are in that 35-50 age range, got some grey in their beard/hair, have a confident attitude or take no shit personality and won't try to homo-ambush you if you ask them how their day is going.

Helps better if they're a Fighter/Paladin but I'm a TOXIC SEXIST BIGOT who sees those classes as male first. Give me some more Keldorns and Korgans, not these gaylord vampire elves. "Vampire elf." Sounds like some shit I'd have thought was kewl when I was 14.

Well, keep in mind that everyone starts at lvl 1. That's counter-productive to things like the 35-50 age range ;)
 
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Who would have thought that 20 years later, Keldorn, the quintessential and undeniable cuck of the original saga would be so desired in a sequel.

Next thing you'll tell me is that you miss Cernd too.

Well I'm more or less saying that there's a lack of party members that are in that 35-50 age range, got some grey in their beard/hair, have a confident attitude or take no shit personality and won't try to homo-ambush you if you ask them how their day is going.

Helps better if they're a Fighter/Paladin but I'm a TOXIC SEXIST BIGOT who sees those classes as male first. Give me some more Keldorns and Korgans, not these gaylord vampire elves. "Vampire elf." Sounds like some shit I'd have thought was kewl when I was 14.

Well, keep in mind that everyone starts at lvl 1. That's counter-productive to things like the 35-50 age range ;)
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Who would have thought that 20 years later, Keldorn, the quintessential and undeniable cuck of the original saga would be so desired in a sequel.

Next thing you'll tell me is that you miss Cernd too.

Well I'm more or less saying that there's a lack of party members that are in that 35-50 age range, got some grey in their beard/hair, have a confident attitude or take no shit personality and won't try to homo-ambush you if you ask them how their day is going.

Helps better if they're a Fighter/Paladin but I'm a TOXIC SEXIST BIGOT who sees those classes as male first. Give me some more Keldorns and Korgans, not these gaylord vampire elves. "Vampire elf." Sounds like some shit I'd have thought was kewl when I was 14.

Well, keep in mind that everyone starts at lvl 1. That's counter-productive to things like the 35-50 age range ;)
explain minsc

Oh I am quite certain Larian will do that for me. Probably using amnesia.
 

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Most people/creatures don't have levels at all. It's a specialized thing and you can acquire one at any age.
 

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Only invocations? That is sad... One aspect which I love on RPG's is pet mechanics. Hubaxis, an necromancer only demon pet on G2 - ret(ab) on beginning can't even take a molerat by himself. Later, he becomes strong to take out archdemons and his model changes for a badass demon... And I wanna a Succubus familiar, like on AoC.

I don't see an imp being useful on lv 10+ on 5e...
Familiars are used to scout ,cast spells and such in a pen and paper they are useful, in a video game centered around combat and with the limited scope not really indeed. There's one familiar you would still use in 5E, it's the owl , you use distract with it wihich grant advantage on attacks , then flyby to safety without triggering AOO . That's advantage on every attacks till the owl is alive .A dirty trick and thats probably why its not a choice in BG3 .
 

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"I dislike the narrator, should I go into the options and disable it or complain loudly because I'm a fag who hates the voice of women?"
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not enough disable buttons

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Am glad they did not facial scan any uglies or fatsies. Almost everyone in the game looks good. Great facial expersions also. That alone is a major incline from the usual gobloniods you see forced in american media.
 

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I'm sorry, if you play D&D you are gay forever, there's nothing you can do about it:

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If you are not careful enough, you might also catch the genderfluid virus:

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Keep your family safe, wear a mask.

Nu-Forgotten Realms elves basically are twitter users, approaching ignare adventurers just to bitch about their favorite pronouns.
 

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ITT people who are just now figuring out what D&D/tabletop rp has always been about, a safe space for deviants. It's like figuring out just now that 80s slasher movies had problems with sex.
 
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Narrators are fine when used sparingly for important mid chapter points lik BG and POE1. Hearing them ever second sucked ass in DOS2, annd especially in POE2 cause it was some small girl voice with 0 gravitas.
Deadfire's audio direction for the narrator was awful, I eventually started turning my speakers off during those scenes. Ashley Johnson would've worked very well for an IWD2-style narration, wistfully recalling those adventurers she'd met in her childhood, but in Deadfire she came across as an exhausted, bored mother telling her kid the world's worst bedtime story. What Deadfire's fatalist tone most called for was the Disciples 2 narrator or maybe Drakan's.
 

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How can this 5e starter set rogue (third character) have a stealth bonus of +7 at level 1? And why can't you replicate that in the game? Am I missing something?

https://media.wizards.com/downloads/dnd/StarterSet_Characters.pdf
At their first level, rogues gain the Expertise class feature, that allows them to double their proficiency bonus with two skills of their choice.

Unless I'm missing something, Expertise hasn't been implemented in BG3.

You're correct. I wonder whether this was done for balancing purposes, and whether they are planning to implement it. But on the low levels of the EA, doubling the proficieny bonus wouldn't make such a world's difference.
 

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https://kotaku.com/speedrunner-beats-baldurs-gate-3s-early-access-version-1845383320

Speedrunner Beats Baldur's Gate 3's Early Access Version In 7 Minutes

According to Baldur’s Gate 3's Steam page, the long-awaited RPG’s early access version consists of “approximately 25 hours of self-contained content,” but you can tackle it pretty much any way you want. Most diehard fans take a completionist tack, trying to stretch the still-incomplete game as far as it will go. Not Cary “Professor Palmer” Palmer, though. He’s figured out how to finish the game’s first act in seven minutes.

Palmer’s run, which he told Kotaku he whittled down to its current miniscule time over the course of 200 attempts, involves a lot of jumping. Using the “Jump” transmutation spell, which temporarily triples characters’ jump distances, he soars through the entire game in 30-foot bursts, skipping all combat (including an otherwise mandatory boss encounter at the end of the prologue) and speeding through each of the few cut-scenes the game manages to drag him into. In following this route, Palmer said in an email that he skips “all combat, all companions, all quests” and ends the run “having fought nothing, gained no EXP, still level one.”

The lynchpin of the run, Palmer said, is the well in the goblin-patrolled Blighted Village area. The well takes you into the underground Whispering Depths, and from there, you can leap into what is functionally the early access version’s final area, The Underdark. You do, however, have to succeed on an investigation dice roll to enter the well, so it’s not a sure thing every time.

Palmer did not begin with this approach, which he devised with the aid of two other players he met while trying to figure out the fastest possible route through the game, Haxzploid and GoldenGlovez. His earlier runs incorporated techniques that were flashier and skipped less of the game. But Baldur’s Gate 3 offers players a variety of routes even to its currently truncated “end,” and most quests do not act as hard stops in the main story, rendering them optional. So after hours of prep to mitigate various quests and fights, Palmer came to the equal parts exhilarating and disappointing conclusion that none of it was actually necessary.

“I wrote notes and stuff for hours trying to optimize the path I would take to get everything done,” he said of his preparation. “I was able to figure out a way to end the hardest fight in the game before it even started by utilizing a team member’s dead body. I was so proud of that strategy. However, when I reached the end of the game, I immediately realized that the storyline wasn’t resolved or continued, and it clicked that everything was actually optional because none of it is currently tied together. I think the developers did this so that no one felt railroaded in early access. It really cracked me up, though, because my pages of notes and my really awesome strategies and glitches I had prepared immediately became worthless.”

Palmer’s current run, then, really is just a race to reach a particular spot on the map. Since his goal is the any% completion record, that’s all it needs to be. But since Baldur’s Gate 3 is in early access, with only one of three planned acts even in the game, some fans have scoffed at his efforts. Because it is so open, there is no “right” way to play Baldur’s Gate 3, but users on Steam and developer Larian’s forums feel like Palmer’s way is wrong. Some have said he’s not actually beating the game, since there’s not even a full game to beat yet, while others believe that in order for this to be a “real” speedrun, he should either be engaging with every available quest or drawing on the sorts of impressive glitches he mapped out in his early attempts. Palmer is rolling with the punches.

“I think the tabletop/CRPG community is very loyal to their games—Baldur’s Gate 3 especially because it took 20 years in between games,” he said in response to the criticism. “I think that the diehard fans feel some kind of obligation to the developers to play every inch of the game and feel like they are contributing to smoothing over early access bugs and stuff. I think that because the fan base is so loyal, they are upset and feel disrespected anytime someone doesn’t value every second of gameplay available in the title.”

But Palmer also considers himself to be a diehard fan of Baldur’s Gate 3. He only decided to speedrun it after he’d already probed every inch of it he could playing normally.

“It’s not my first time as a speedrunner being told I’m not playing the game right,” he said. “I just wish I could show people that I love this game. I spent 25 plus hours playing the heck out of it in three or four days. That’s the same with any game a speedrunner plays. Usually they are some of the people who have played a game the most in order to find out the stuff that they use in runs. It’s just a way to get a different playing experience out of a game I love. I did all the quests and all the gameplay, and I didn’t want the fact that I had done everything to mean that I didn’t have a reason to play anymore.”

In the future, Palmer plans to adapt his route to updated versions of Baldur’s Gate 3. For now, though, he’s working on a separate all-quests route that “really showcases the awesome combat and dialogue that the any% doesn’t get an opportunity to do.”

Despite some pushback, he’s enjoyed the process on the whole.

“It’s just all in good fun,” he said. “The first time I ever posted it to one of the forums, I might have gotten yelled at by 10 people, but one person saw it and was interested enough to join my Discord. [He] ended up cutting the route in half. So that’s what it’s all about: finding people with similar interests who really love the game and are really having a good time getting creative with ideas and strategies.”
 

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Familiars are used to scout ,cast spells and such in a pen and paper they are useful, in a video game centered around combat and with the limited scope not really indeed. There's one familiar you would still use in 5E, it's the owl , you use distract with it wihich grant advantage on attacks , then flyby to safety without triggering AOO . That's advantage on every attacks till the owl is alive .A dirty trick and thats probably why its not a choice in BG3 .

But I wanna nwn1 style of familiars. Where they level up with you and you can have fairy dragons, pseudodragons, imps, quasits...

And wanna a succubus familiar!!!

What is the point of learning demonology in a fantasy world? Of course, summon succubus.

narrator is a qt shut your fucking mouths

I agree. Amelia is a amazing voice actress. Loved her role on PFKM.
 

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