Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Elex]

The good old: "It's fun playing with friends". Playing in co-op makes people thinking that the game is fun. But even throwing shit at each other can be fun with friends.
And you never end the game in co-op. (thus a 10% completion rate)
D:OS2 isn't a RPG, it's a party game.

Co op party game is the definition of D&D, tabletop rpg and tabletop game in general.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

I will admit that it's a needlessly convoluted mechanics, but is the concept of SUBTRACTIONS really that hard?

I often wondered the same.
I mean, I could agree it wasn't the most sleek way to present the data to the player, but you have people that make it sound as if it was fucking quantum physics to figure out, while I learned to use it 30 years ago as a twelve years old reading a tooltip on a pirated videogame without manual.

 

[Catacombs]

I will never forget the eyes of the kid who kept writing 2 - 1 = 0. I hope he is ok now.

He's likely posting around here somewhere.

 

[kangaxx]

I mean, I could agree it wasn't the most sleek way to present the data to the player, but you have people that make it sound as if it was fucking quantum physics to figure out, while I learned to use it 30 years ago as a twelve years old reading a tooltip on a pirated videogame without manual.

I worked it out as a 7 year old from the Champions of Krynn manual, admittedly with the help of my dad (although he isn't a gamer at all). It really isn't rocket science.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Takamori]

Welp another flooding, hope the patch finally adds paladins

 

[Cryomancer]

CHoSen OnE (with most lame and overused cliche background since New Testament was written) with world rolling around your character, instead of being adventurer among other adventurers on their quest.

This is the greatest problem of BG1/2 IMO.

I prefer more local conflicts instead of saving the world but only by not being a endless gear farming, QTE cooldown managing game, BG1/2 is great.

Western RPG fans by now are mostly console rpg fans. People playing Divinity consider themselves hardcore, and people who play Pillars and Tyranny think they have found the end of the rainbow already.
With a customer base like that it is no wonder barely anyone tries to make proper crpgs anymore.

OwlCat disagrees.

OwlCat did the unique great TT adaptation of the last decade.

h yes, a true rpg conoisseur destroying the nostalgia of the codex boomers.

BG 1 and 2 will be exposed as the mediocre crap that they are when more people will try that old boomer trash after playing BG 3.

LOL. You mean that modern ""RPG fans"" will get their ass kicked by a game which doesn't threat his audience as teletubbies?

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

... Also attacked by a Golem in CH1? The only golems in the early game of BG 2 are in Irenicus Lab... Did this fucktard literally get filtered by the tutorial on easiest difficulty?

Maybe he is talking about the golems in the de'Arnise keep in chapter 2? That's the only possible explanation.

It could be the golems in the bridge district, when you kill the mage Rayic Gethras in the Docks District.

 

[Ontopoly]

Thanks Larian for doing to the Baldur's Gate name, what Fallout 3 did to Fallout name... When a modern RPG gamer meets a (g)old RPG.

Why censor everything? I would actually appreciate a link to the thread.
This is exactly what I said would happen though. Larian has retroactively ruined bg. Ice wind dale is new best friend

Aren't you hilarious! I wouldn't really call myself a fan of the DOS series, it took me about 4 attempts to finish DOS:2.

So why would this game possibly appeal to you as a fan of bg? Surely you would be neutral at best, since this game has nothing in common with bg.

BG 1 and 2 will be exposed as mathematically challenging when more people will try that old game that doesn't assume you're brain dead or incapable of a google search after playing BG 3.

No, it's Larian's fault that they're making games for retards.

It's the industries fault for constantly stripping any depth to the point that people who consider them rpg pros can't wrap their mind around thac0 or different classes needing different amounts of exp

 

[Varnaan]

I don't know how anyone can say the BG games are mathematically challenging, in the first game, since it's a low level adventure, the good weapons and armor (number go up!) and the good spells are obvious, and few and far between, since there is no real in-between good spell and poorly implemented non functional trash (summon berries?????), BG2 is a bit different because it's high levels and the horizon broadens a bit but honestly you don't even really need to know what THAC0 is to beat either.
I'd even go as far as to say that Baldur's Gate is the Original Sin of the late 90's.

 

[Ontopoly]

I'd even go as far as to say that Baldur's Gate is the Original Sin of the late 90's.

Maybe in 20 years we will have people trying to play DOS and complaining that they didn't know they had to click on an enemy and that they had to make a calculated risk based on the hit chance percentage rather than the game telling them if they would have hit or miss before they attacked.

 

[Reader]

in 20 years we will have people trying to play dota and complaining

fix

 

[Cryomancer]

I don't know how anyone can say the BG games are mathematically challenging, in the first game, since it's a low level adventure, the good weapons and armor (number go up!) and the good spells are obvious, and few and far between, since there is no real in-between good spell and poorly implemented non functional trash (summon berries?????), BG2 is a bit different because it's high levels and the horizon broadens a bit but honestly you don't even really need to know what THAC0 is to beat either.
I'd even go as far as to say that Baldur's Gate is the Original Sin of the late 90's.

I STRONGLY disagree. DOS2 is far more simplistic than PFKM while BG1/2 is the opposite. Baldur's Gate has way more "rules" to take into account than other 90s RPG. Including those based on D&D. Pick Dark Sun : Shattered Sands, BG2 offers :

• Weapon specialization
• Different AC's depending on the weapon type. A full plate armor on BG2 is +20% likely to deflect a sword blow compared to a mace blow.
• Mage specialization
• Way more spell and spell effects, casted by the party and by enemies.

I played both dark suns, dungeon hack, ravenloft strahd possession and BG1/2 doesn't seem more simplistic than any 90s D&D adaptation.

 

[kangaxx]

So why would this game possibly appeal to you as a fan of bg? Surely you would be neutral at best, since this game has nothing in common with bg.

You actually have no idea how it'll link with the original series because they haven't finished the game yet.

As to your actual question... it's hard to tell if you're trolling or autistic to be honest. Can you not be "neutral" towards a game and buy it now?

 

[Andnjord]

People finished BG & BG2. The MP part was a gimmick.

Lies, everyone knows that MP is the only real way to play the game as it allows you to create your own party of min-maxed munchkins balanced and interesting characters and ignore the drivel Bioware called companions.

 

[Elex]

the image sum up what the rest of the internet discuss about bg3

 

[Citizen]

This is how you do a song in-game

nigga please

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

the image sum up what the rest of the internet discuss about bg3

Disturbingly accurate.

 

[Varnaan]

I don't know how anyone can say the BG games are mathematically challenging, in the first game, since it's a low level adventure, the good weapons and armor (number go up!) and the good spells are obvious, and few and far between, since there is no real in-between good spell and poorly implemented non functional trash (summon berries?????), BG2 is a bit different because it's high levels and the horizon broadens a bit but honestly you don't even really need to know what THAC0 is to beat either.
I'd even go as far as to say that Baldur's Gate is the Original Sin of the late 90's.

I STRONGLY disagree. DOS2 is far more simplistic than PFKM while BG1/2 is the opposite. Baldur's Gate has way more "rules" to take into account than other 90s RPG. Including those based on D&D. Pick Dark Sun : Shattered Sands, BG2 offers :

• Weapon specialization
• Different AC's depending on the weapon type. A full plate armor on BG2 is +20% likely to deflect a sword blow compared to a mace blow.
• Mage specialization
• Way more spell and spell effects, casted by the party and by enemies.

I played both dark suns, dungeon hack, ravenloft strahd possession and BG1/2 doesn't seem more simplistic than any 90s D&D adaptation.

None of those are required to understand to finish BG or BG2.
You don't even need to understand THAC0 and AC, and the good spells are obvious because the others are either useless or non-functional.
There is nothing mathematically challenging about the BG games.

 

[jackofshadows]

There is nothing mathematically challenging about the BG games.

True and yet aiming for negative AC numbers is counter-intuitive. This was the most confusing thing when we've been diving into unfamiliar game's system back in the day.

 

[Lacrymas]

It's blindingly obvious a lower number is better because you get a lower number when you equip heavier armor. You don't need to even know what AC is.

 

[jackofshadows]

We've thought advantage of heavier armor lies in its secondaries (and other stuff if unique) as a trade for shitty AC.

 

[Nano]

RTFM.

 

[fantadomat]

 

[Lacrymas]

120 hours is a lot.