Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[fantadomat]

LOL only 5 mil? DOS2 sold more than the combined BG franchise LMFAO!

372 gazillion billion million zillions swazi dollars! It is the most popular game in swaziland!!! Swazi bless!

 

[Cryomancer]

all things are atrocious in neverwinter nights

Not if you mod the game. IMO nwn2 is bellow average without spell fixes and great with spell fixes. The stronghold management is great. The expansion mask of the betrayer is one of the best epic level adventures ever. The trial was memorable. The tons of player made content. Ability to re write your own spells and re compile then if you know how to code in C++(which is easy).

3E was garbage too

3E is just not as great as 2E.

I would love to see a retroclone adapted into a CRPG.

Hmmm this seems interesting,but not sure about the source of their net revenue stats.

According to your own site :

https://games-stats.com/steam/?developer=owlcat-games

As I've said 666 times, Larian Target Audience is way bigger than OwlCat target audience. Any game appealing to normies will sell more than a game appealing to Grognards. However, grognards are a way more dedicated playerbase.

 

[Delterius]

Not if you mod the game.

mods could never fix neverwinter nights

 

[fantadomat]

As I've said 666 times, Larian Target Audience is way bigger than OwlCat target audience. Any game appealing to normies will sell more than a game appealing to Grognards. However, grognards are a way more dedicated playerbase.

Never argued against that. larian is for dumb midwits and normies. It is dumbed down rpgs with pulp fiction shitty writing. Not that nu pissfidner had better.

 

[Delterius]

god i miss the times when baldurs gate was considered a twitch game for retards. now everyone is falling over themselves trying to pretend its the most intellectual thing since plato's symposium on gay sex.

 

[NJClaw]

god i miss the times when baldurs gate was considered a twitch game for retards.

Then lilura completely changed the rules and made it a good game. Thanks for nothing, lilura.

 

[The_Mask]

Thanks for nothing, lilura.

And then she quit the forum, because we were, and I quote "toxic". Pfffff... women*...

*allegedly

 

[mediocrepoet]

Thanks for nothing, lilura.

And then she quit the forum, because we were, and I quote "toxic".

"She" [sic] wasn't wrong...

Pfffff... women*...

*allegedly

Even allegedly, that's some amazing power of fabulous optimism you have. Respect.

 

[mediocrepoet]

god i miss the times when baldurs gate was considered a twitch game for retards. now everyone is falling over themselves trying to pretend its the most intellectual thing since the plato's symposium on gay sex.

I just like it because it's D&D. RTWP is trash and BG writing is doofy. Still a great time though.

Besides, I'll take the "BG is a classic" viewpoint over "PST/Discodisco is a literary masterpiece" from people who don't know what books are.

 

[aweigh]

Which mod are you using for Deadfire+

Using "UnityConsole" https://www.nexusmods.com/pillarsofeternity2/mods/2

Read through the comments carefully, there's a fix-file you need to find somewhere in the first page of comments and download, then copy/paste on top of the original mod files. Sounds more complicated than I'm making it out to be, it's very simple.

Then run the game and press the designated hotkey combination to bring up the Cheat Menu. To change character attributes/classes/etc you need to have the character's character sheet onscreen.

You will notice having the UnityConsole menu open will cause your game to lag, that's normal. You turn it off when you're done using it.

Quick Pro-Tip: If you find yourself doing a bunch of changes to a character and then you can't remember if Eder is supposed to have 4 feats or 5 feats, or you suddenly can't remember how many attribute points a character is supposed to have... just go into an Inn and roll a custom character with the class you want to design and level the custom character up to the level you want, then copy over what their sheet looks like to the companion you're working on.

If nothing else it's at least useful for making Xoti into either a regular Monk or a regular Priest, since both of Xoti's custom classes the game gives her are dog shit and markedly worse than the regular versions.

Victor is probably the only single one person in the world who likes nwn 2 engine...

I like it too. <3 Neeshka

 

[Swen]

LOL only 5 mil? DOS2 sold more than the combined BG franchise LMFAO!

372 gazillion billion million zillions swazi dollars! It is the most popular game in swaziland!!! Swazi bless!

Here we see Mitko in his bulgarian habitat showing the greatness of BG2 to his 26 children he had with his niece. BG2 sold 350 copies in the great nation of Bulgaria, a gaming sales record for the glorious country, a record still not beaten to this day... or so they say in the village. The alleged record sales number of BG2 is one of the most famous legends still being told in Mitko's village.

 

[underground nymph]

Any game appealing to normies will sell more than a game appealing to retarded people.

Slight correction. Please proceed.

 

[fantadomat]

LOL only 5 mil? DOS2 sold more than the combined BG franchise LMFAO!

372 gazillion billion million zillions swazi dollars! It is the most popular game in swaziland!!! Swazi bless!

Here we see Mitko in his bulgarian habitat showing the greatness of BG2 to his 26 children he had with his niece. BG2 sold 350 copies in the great nation of Bulgaria, a gaming sales record for the glorious country, a record still not beaten to this day... or so they say in the village. The alleged record sales number of BG2 is one of the most famous legends still being told in Mitko's village.

The cope is real in this one.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Dead thread for 24hrs...

 

[Ulfhednar]

48hrs...

RIP
Cause of death: Spider Swarms

Before everyone get's too worked up, just remember Larian won't be the first studio to regret trying to make BG3... or at least the spiritual successor to the BG franchise.

 

[Larianshill]

The thread is dead, because there's nothing to discuss.

 

[mediocrepoet]

The thread is dead, because there's nothing to discuss.

When has that stopped anyone before? Are you new here?

 

[Greek Anime God]

Dead thread for 24hrs...

We are all too busy playing the game to post. The number one sign that you have a good game on your hands is that people play it more than they post about it.

 

[BruceVC]

Dead thread for 24hrs...

We are all too busy playing the game to post. The number one sign that you have a good game on your hands is that people play it more than they post about it.

QFT, I like the way you think

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

We are all too busy playing the game to post. The number one sign that you have a good game on your hands is that people play it more than they post about it.

You can tell so easily it's a different Ontopoly it gets almost unsettling.
Well, that or the worst case of dissociative personality disorder in years.

 

[Fedora Master]

The thread is dead, because there's nothing to discuss.

And for that reason it should be closed.

 

[Ulfhednar]

The thread is dead, because there's nothing to discuss.

I don't know what to say... Patch 6... sorcs... new area added to Act 1...

WolfheartFPS keeps putting out fresh content. He's recently posted a careful analysis of a Swen interview where he tries to "get inside the head of Swen". Maybe we could jumpstart the conversation with that. Swen's probably pissed WHFPS forgot to change out of his PF:WotR tee before hitting record, but hey...



Kinda long, so I'll help you with some highlights.

Swen: The biggest challenge is just getting everything done. There's just so much, it's a very large project with a lot of amibitions with an insane amount of permutations, and making sure that everybody will have fun, regardless of whether you're a cleric of Shar or a Barbarian/Palaldin/druid multiclass.
WHFPS: So some of you guys will remember about a year and a half ago, Larian talked about multiclassing and they said they had plans of including it in the game after they finish the core of the game. ... I started having a little bit of doubt about whether this was actually going to implemented ... here's our confirmation right here, so all you DnD players, or all of you who like to experiment with crazy builds, it has now been, basically I would say 99.9% confirmed that we will be getting it.

Oh... OH!... well that's big news. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm glad they prioritized all that Mo-cap and VA up front, but I do think it's great that they've included some nice, non-core, add-ons like multiclassing. As kind of an afterthought.

WHFPS: For those of you who may be unfamiliar with what multiclassing is, basically in DnD and of course BalD:OS Gate 3 when you level up, you can choose to not level up in your primary class and instead take a level in another class.

I included that because I'm just trying to be respectful of audience here, and not get too deep in the weeds too fast.

WHFPS: Going back to what Swen said about the insane amount of permutations, it really, really is crazy, and I think a lot of people don't really understand how much work is going into BalD:OS Gate 3 when you compare it to other cRPGs, or even other regular RPGs. This doesn't mean that BalD:OS Gate 3 is better than other RPGs or cRPGs, that's going to be subjective, but there's just no denying the amount of work that's going into this project compared to many others, especially in the cRPG genre. ... with all of these permutations comes VA and cinematics and all of that stuff, and obviously Larian studios is feeling the weight of everything that they have to do.

Objectively true - Owlcat announced WotR about 6 months after Larian dropped that crazy trailer - you know the one I am talking about - and that game is already pushed out the door and I've been playing it for a couple of months already. Good to see they are really taking their time with BalD:OS Gate 3. They really are doing A LOT of work.

WHFPS: So once again, this goes back to being about Larian studios really caring about BalD:OS Gate 3 being the biggest and best project they've ever done in the history of the company, and maybe the best project they ever will do. It's just really exciting to see a company say they really, really, really care about the polish this early in the game's development... even though it's not early... I... I guess we're kinda late in the game's development at this point.

Oops... guess he said the quiet part out loud.

WHFPS: They start talking about how long BalD:OS Gate 3 has been in Early Access and what that means for Larian studios. The first thing Swen says is that:
Swen: It's something that we think about a lot. The biggest risk is that there's a certain amount of fatigue that might pop up, certainly among the press. You can imagine that people say: 'Hey, it's been in EA forever, when's it going to come out?'
WHFPS: ... even on my channel, I'll go a couple of weeks or even a month without talking about BalD:OS Gate 3 because I just need a break and I want some more content.

I don't know, is the Dex tired of BalD:OS Gate 3, does that explain the dead thread? I was really hoping Patch 6 would spice things up...

WHFPS: How many companies say things like 'the time it takes is the time it takes' these days? Very, very few, so make sure that if you do like Larian studios and you end up liking BalD:OS Gate 3 that you show support to it. Because I don't know too many other companies out there who say things like this and stick to it, and obviously Larian is sticking to it.

WHFPS: ... the definition of indie is independent, and Larian studios does not have a publisher, so in my opinion, an indie company although we think of them as smaller companies, Larian studios is still an independent company, they don't have to answer to a publisher which gives them deadline dates and limits them on resources ...

WHFPS: I want to point out something that may indicate the future of BalD:OS Gate 3 outside of the PC universe. Some of you guys know that Larian opened up a few new studios recently, and one of those studios is 'composed of former Blitworks staff who had worked on the Nintendo Switch version of D:OS 2.

Simultaneous development on consoles... we're just gonna break a few eggs over here, nothing to worry about.

Swen: So I don't really bother with worrying about how large that market is. We just put a lot of love and a lot of money into this one game because we figured that if it's really good, people are going to come and play. And I know that it's not necessarily the most business savvy approach to it, but if there's enough people who are willing to buy to play it and 'some' is larger than what you're putting into it, you'll be okay and that's pretty much how we're approaching it.

So is that the market for cRPGs with multiclassing or the market without multiclassing? Not that it matters when you've got Mo-cap and VA.

WHFPS: The article says, 'A lot of the work Larian is accomplishing with BalD:OS Gate 3 EA actually revolves around accessibility and onboarding, and how you convey the complex rules of DnD in the simplest way possible.' ... When you come from regular RPGs like Skyrim or the Witcher which are amazing in their own way, having to learn what saving throws are, or rolling dice for attack rolls - none of that makes any sense at all. A lot of people don't want to have to sit their and study this stuff, so Larian's goal was to keep the DnD rules there but to make it really easy to understand.

Guess that settles the debate on whether this was made for boomers or zoomers. Owlcat's idea of a tutorial was to provide a link to PFSRD...

In summary, no signs of development hell to be seen.

I would say


but no point in doing so since everyone here seems to be playing EA.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Guess that settles the debate on whether this was made for boomers or zoomers. Owlcat's idea of a tutorial was to provide a link to PFSRD...

Which was pretty incompetent, considering their audience seems to be mostly LGBLT faggot zoomers.

but no point in doing so since everyone here seems to be playing EA.

Day -1460 purchase?

 

[underground nymph]

I can’t make myself playing EA once more, did it five times already. Even if they’ll drop palo I’ll opt waiting for the full release whenever it will be. Upon releasing I’m going to play the shit out of this game pissing off each time I’ll be facing another stupid larianism.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I can’t make myself playing EA once more, did it five times already

I think I've played it 3 times, but haven't actually finished it. I struggle between enjoyment and not wanting to spoil myself.

another stupid larianism.

The only things I don't like about it mainly relate to the druid plotline because the entire concept is kind of cartoonish and gay. Not in a Larian way though (bad jokes and nonsensical plot). Just in a normal boring questline way.

Muh refugees. Orange druid bad and wants to build a wall. It's not NWN2 bad, or Wrath of the Tranny gay, but it is pretty lame and predictable. Thankfully, it doesn't last long though, and you are given the option of exterminating the refugees or whatever.