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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

fantadomat

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
So this is the famous bulgarian education at work I see.
yeah, it really went to shit after they started to listen to their new belgian overlords from brussel
Did your german masters loosen up your leash ??
the two genders: ruled by belgians and ruled by germans
There is only one gender,ruled by germans are property!!!
 

Reinhardt

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
So this is the famous bulgarian education at work I see.
yeah, it really went to shit after they started to listen to their new belgian overlords from brussel
Did your german masters loosen up your leash ??
the two genders: ruled by belgians and ruled by germans
There is only one gender,ruled by germans are property!!!
but belgians are germans. EU ARE GERMANS
 

Ninjerk

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
So this is the famous bulgarian education at work I see.
yeah, it really went to shit after they started to listen to their new belgian overlords from brussel
Did your german masters loosen up your leash ??
the two genders: ruled by belgians and ruled by germans
There is only one gender,ruled by germans are property!!!
but belgians are germans. EU ARE GERMANS
It's Germany all the way down
 

fantadomat

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
So this is the famous bulgarian education at work I see.
yeah, it really went to shit after they started to listen to their new belgian overlords from brussel
Did your german masters loosen up your leash ??
the two genders: ruled by belgians and ruled by germans
There is only one gender,ruled by germans are property!!!
but belgians are germans. EU ARE GERMANS
:nocountryforshitposters:
Come on mate,it is just banter. No need to insult germans in such a way.
 

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
So this is the famous bulgarian education at work I see.
yeah, it really went to shit after they started to listen to their new belgian overlords from brussel
Did your german masters loosen up your leash ??
the two genders: ruled by belgians and ruled by germans
There is only one gender,ruled by germans are property!!!
but belgians are germans. EU ARE GERMANS
It's Germany all the way down
europe died with the first foederati
 

Ulfhednar

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The worst thing about Larian doing BG3 always was and continuous to be attracting the declined Bioware/Obsidian troglodyte parade into this subforum and ruining our comfy threads.
Write a letter to Larian, tell them to stop developing BalD:OS Gate 3, get WotC to sell franchise rights to Owlcat, and I solemnly swear to never post in your safe space again.
 

Namutree

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I wasn't saying that Baldur's Gate was more popular than DoS, I was saying that Baldur's Gate was more popular than the many turn based D&D games who's name Larian could have latched onto.

They chose the most famous RTwP one instead.
 

Reinhardt

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The worst thing about Larian doing BG3 always was and continuous to be attracting the declined Bioware/Obsidian troglodyte parade into this subforum and ruining our comfy threads.
Comfy threads... about disco furry? This subforum is a disgrace.
 

NJClaw

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Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture
I wasn't saying that Baldur's Gate was more popular than DoS, I was saying that Baldur's Gate was more popular than the many turn based D&D games who's name Larian could have latched onto.

They chose the most famous RTwP one instead.
How many Ontopolys does this forum need? Don't we already have like four of them?
 

Namutree

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
That's fucking embarrassing for Larian if true. Considering BG2 came out when there was a much smaller consumer market to begin with.
 

Diggfinger

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But that way you can create your custom party and still be able to get companion quests. It's the best of both worlds. Who cares if it doesn't make sense? Look at what people are already doing in WOTR. Does Seelah suddenly deciding to become a Skald after being a Paladin for one whole level makes sense? Does Regil deciding to become a Bloodrager out of sudden makes sense? Do multiple people of various backgrounds suddenly deciding to get a little bit of monastic training in order to master mysterious crane style make any sense? If you worry about it you can just choose to not respec them.

Agreed. I had a lot of fun playing through the two Pillars of Eternity games with the mod-tool that lets you respec companions and change their attributes and class to whatever you want. Did the same in Pathfinder 1 as well, with the mod-tool for that game.

You get your custom party plus the story companion content and their presence, it's the best of both worlds. PoE 2 even leaned towards this a bit with the multiple class options available for each companion when you recruit them, so it is obvious that we're not the only people in the world who feel this way.

Which mod are you using for Deadfire+
 

Delterius

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I wasn't saying that Baldur's Gate was more popular than DoS, I was saying that Baldur's Gate was more popular than the many turn based D&D games who's name Larian could have latched onto.

They chose the most famous RTwP one instead.
How many Ontopolys does this forum need? Don't we already have like four of them?
how many roads must a man walk down
 

fantadomat

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DOS2 is extremely popular and sold much more than 2 million, lol. It's also on every console and handheld.
Yes it sold one kajillion billions !!! Fucking retarded fanboys. The game sold less than 2 millions in its life,get over it faggit. While bg2 sold around 3 millions in its life.
That's fucking embarrassing for Larian if true. Considering BG2 came out when there was a much smaller consumer market to begin with.
Divinity: Original Sin 2 surpasses 1 million copies sold
Larian Studios has sold more than 1 million copies of Divinity: Original Sin 2 on Steam. This is an impressive landmark for almost any game, but Larian is hitting that threshold while also breathing life into the classic hardcore role-playing genre.
This is from 2017,the time where the "definitive edition" came out,which was like a year and a half after its original release. By now it most likely it is around 2 millions. This is no fucking skyrim,where it gets a rerelease and still sells 10 millions.
 

Cryomancer

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What happened to Ontopoly?

If Larian wants a turn based system they shouldn't associate their product with the Baldur's Gate name specifically.

I strongly disagree. This is very common on the industry. For eg, Fl 1/2 and FL3/NV changed a lot. Neverwinter AOL 1991 was a mmo and turn based. Neverwinter nights 1/2 was RtWP and the generic wow clone is just a wow clone. The problem of BG3 is the inferior ruleset, retarded writing, hp inflation and all other stuff which I already talked many times.

BG3 when modders put 3E hp values, rules and spells on it or when someone creates the BG3 campaign in NWN2 engine, will be great.

BG3 is about as well-written as BG2 was,

What??? Nothing in this game is good written as Jon Irenicus was.

.sure,but it is one of those games where every time there is a discussion about it,someone reinstalls it. While you can't accuse any of the dos games for that,if anything it is the butt of a joke.

Exactly. Also, the gaming market was much smaller in the past.

Anyway, if sales is a metric of quality, Diablo 3 is the best RPG of all time. Cuz it sold over 30 million copies. A game where you can suck the blood from the skeleton king using siphon blood spell and the amount of blood sucked is proportional to the size and sharpness of your axe, is so nonsensical as using barrelmancy to blow up a red dragon by doing fire damage at lv 4 in BG3.

Oh cool so we can use metacritic now? Good

Metacritic in 90s till mid 2000s and in 2020 are two different things. Here is a game journalist reviewing a SSI game from 90s. Dark Sun : Wake of the Ravager is a amazing lv 7~15 campaign. If was today, game journos would give 1/10 cuz a 5 yo child can't play it.



I disagree. It was, in fact, a lot more popular than the numbers show. And it's now being shown by how popular PC games are in Central in Eastern Europe as a consequence of the late 90's/early 00's mass pirating.

Exactly. However, consoles also suffered a lot from piracy. Mainly in south america. PC gaming in Brazil for example was insanely expensive and almost everyone owned a PS1/PS2 + pirated games.

However, as I've said 666 times, total sales is not a good indicator of the product success.
  • Costs and profits is a much better metric. If a game costs 1 mi to be made and returns 10 mi in sales, the game is much more successful than a game who costs 15 mi and returns 20 mi.
  • How the target audience likes the game
  • The game proposal.
If we look just to popularity, then people will say that Ferrari sucks because is rare to see someone driving one...
 

fantadomat

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addendum

Baldur's Gate Series
  • MetaCritic Scores (as of February 2008):
    • Baldur's Gate: 91%
    • Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn: 95%
    • Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal: 88%
  • The Baldur's Gate series: Baldur's Gate I, Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, and Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal have sold approximately 5 million units world-wide
  • Baldur's Gate, released in 1998, has sold over 2 million units for PC and has won many industry awards; in 1999, BioWare released Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, a Baldur's Gate expansion pack. It debuted at #1 worldwide and sold over 600,000 units
  • Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, was released in Sept. 2000 and continued the award winning story line of the Baldur's Gate series, selling over 2 million units so far; in June 2001 Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal was released, the expansion pack to the award winning Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, and the conclusion to the Baldur's Gate series, selling more than 500,000 units
  • The Baldur's Gate franchise has won multiple Game of the Year and RPG of the Year awards

http://web.archive.org/web/20080409131841/http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/about/


And that was 13 years ago.
 

Cryomancer

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is probably the only single one person in the world who likes nwn 2 engine...

No, I like 3E ruleset.

Ideally, OwlCat would launch Rise of the Runelords or Skull & Shakles in their next game and instead of a minigame, they will include a adventure creation toll like Aurora engine and BG3 will be remade in Pathfinder 1e. A much superior ruleset.

you're being deranged rn

If BG3 campaign is made in any 3E engine, it will be 1000x better.

The worst 3E game >>>> the best 5E game.
 

Delterius

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you're being deranged rn

If BG3 campaign is made in any 3E engine, it will be 1000x better.

The worst 3E game >>>> the best 5E game.
Ok, ten out of ten doctors agree that the NwN2 camera causes people to kill themselves but Finger of Death is p good in 3E so I like it.

No. pls. stop. turn back towards the light of larian and be free of this madness.
 

Swen

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The worst thing about Larian doing BG3 always was and continuous to be attracting the declined Bioware/Obsidian troglodyte parade into this subforum and ruining our comfy threads.
Owlcucks are the worst, they need to stay in their LGBT thread.
addendum

Baldur's Gate Series
  • MetaCritic Scores (as of February 2008):
    • Baldur's Gate: 91%
    • Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn: 95%
    • Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal: 88%
  • The Baldur's Gate series: Baldur's Gate I, Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, and Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal have sold approximately 5 million units world-wide
  • Baldur's Gate, released in 1998, has sold over 2 million units for PC and has won many industry awards; in 1999, BioWare released Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, a Baldur's Gate expansion pack. It debuted at #1 worldwide and sold over 600,000 units
  • Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, was released in Sept. 2000 and continued the award winning story line of the Baldur's Gate series, selling over 2 million units so far; in June 2001 Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal was released, the expansion pack to the award winning Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, and the conclusion to the Baldur's Gate series, selling more than 500,000 units
  • The Baldur's Gate franchise has won multiple Game of the Year and RPG of the Year awards

http://web.archive.org/web/20080409131841/http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/about/


And that was 13 years ago.
LOL only 5 mil? DOS2 sold more than the combined BG franchise LMFAO!
 

Cryomancer

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you're being deranged rn

If BG3 campaign is made in any 3E engine, it will be 1000x better.

The worst 3E game >>>> the best 5E game.
Ok, ten out of ten doctors agree that the NwN2 camera causes people to kill themselves but Finger of Death is p good in 3E so I like it.

No. pls. stop. turn back towards the light of larian and be free of this madness.

Is hard to configure the atrocious camera in nwn2. However, I rather deal with a atrocious camera than a atrocious ruleset.

LOL only 5 mil? DOS2 sold more than the combined BG franchise LMFAO!

A lot of cars sold more than a Ferrari. I guess that Ferrari is a bad car/sarcasm
 

Non-Edgy Gamer

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Strap Yourselves In
The worst 3E game >>>> the best 5E game.
3E was garbage too, especially in real-time.

NWN2 engine was also a major decline over NWN1 (which I didn't even like). I remember being shocked that they didn't implement any dodging or blocking animations, when NWN1 had that from the beginning. A buggy, ugly engine that brought nothing but glossy graphics to the game.
 

fantadomat

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Hmmm this seems interesting,but not sure about the source of their net revenue stats.

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https://games-stats.com/steam/?publisher=larian-studios
 

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