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Is that really the case?
I mean Sarevok did most of the heavy lifting for the Iron Throne by killing those who needed to be killed,manipulating and intimidating people and generally being one scary motherfucker. Sure,Rieltar raised him and shaped him,but Sarevok was the muscle and the Iron Throne rose to their position because of his contribution.
Sarevok was the grand schemer after all. Rieltar realized Sarevok has deceived him and started guessing about the grand scheme, but was dead shortly after.
 

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Every d&d adventure until ~3E D&D came with pregen characters. Weird how the 'foundation' didn't actually exist until well after RPGs became popular.
Many D&D/AD&D adventure modules included pre-generated characters as an option, but these were nonetheless in the minority at around 142 of the 316 modules published by TSR before its demise in 1997. Moreover, some of the pregens were merely an abbreviated list with the most basic stats rather than a full character description.
 
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Every d&d adventure until ~3E D&D came with pregen characters. Weird how the 'foundation' didn't actually exist until well after RPGs became popular.
Many D&D/AD&D adventure modules included pre-generated characters as an option, but these were nonetheless in the minority at around 142 of the 316 modules published by TSR before its demise in 1997. Moreover, some of the pregens were merely an abbreviated list with the most basic stats rather than a full character description.
Imagine I rated this with the cope button.
 

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BG3 companions :

  • Token exotic race fighter
  • Goth chick
Based on Rusty and Swen's claims, you'd think there would be a wealth of rule34 content for these two. How a quick search on rule34 reveals that there are relatively few entries.
Man. Remember when Larian and journalists malded that the average player character among their player base is Chad Clericman instead of bisexual purple tieflings?

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"what the hell guys! We put in all the spazzed shit you dangerhaired freaks asked for! Now go make that non-binary demon xir of our dreams!!"
More like
>what the hell guys! we put the game up for beta testing, and you are all playing the same characters with the same builds making the same choices! at this rate, there will be many unreported bugs!"
You need to make a hairy dwarf woman in order to notice female dwarves mustaches clip during a cutscene.
 

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D&D has degenerated into woke tranny shit and shit modern High Fantasy filled with orcs,half-orcs,half-orc trannies,elf trannies,goblin crossdressers,Power Word:Change Gender etc.
They should've kept it "Sword&Sorcery but with a lot more magic" as Gary Gygax(who was a fan of Robert E. Howard,may God rest their souls to peace) intended it to be. A world where gritty adventurers make their way in the world through steel and magic
 

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rusty, do you imagine that resources aren't a thing? that developers just choose features and they pop up in the game at no opportunity cost?

reality must be a magical place for you
Have you ever considered why pre-written characters might have more content than your custom original character?
Think hard before replying!
I see you guys have been having this completely stupid argument again.

Why anyone would be asshurt at more content is beyond me. Is this the first game to have prewritten NPCs? No. Is it even the first game to let you play as them in a variety of situations? No.

I don't remember people crying over the unique dialog for NPCs in Jagged Alliance 2. "Oh no! It means I'll miss out on content if I don't play them!" And? :roll:

The only thing I've seen that people should be butthurt over is the fact the game still isn't out yet.

(Well, and the fact that the alignment system isn't in the game, but that was on WotC, since WotC mandated its exclusion and Larian is clearly using it for writing characters.)
 

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Man. Remember when Larian and journalists malded that the average player character among their player base is Chad Clericman instead of bisexual purple tieflings?
Tbh this article always surprised me, since my impression is that any edition that doesn't have the demihuman limits will end up with a quirky party of tieflings and elves and at least one party member taken straight from an anime
 

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D&D has degenerated into woke tranny shit and shit modern High Fantasy filled with orcs,half-orcs,half-orc trannies,elf trannies,goblin crossdressers,Power Word:Change Gender etc.
They should've kept it "Sword&Sorcery but with a lot more magic" as Gary Gygax(who was a fan of Robert E. Howard,may God rest their souls to peace) intended it to be. A world where gritty adventurers make their way in the world through steel and magic
Nah, you exaggerating now

I agree there is inclusivity in many games nowadays but I always play RPG the same way I am in RL which is CIS white male and there is always content and things that appeal to me and keep me entertained like they always have

Inclusivity doesnt mean you replace a certain demographic so they feel alienated. For example its about giving people options and choice around character and NPC party selection
 

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D&D has degenerated into woke tranny shit and shit modern High Fantasy filled with orcs,half-orcs,half-orc trannies,elf trannies,goblin crossdressers,Power Word:Change Gender etc.
They should've kept it "Sword&Sorcery but with a lot more magic" as Gary Gygax(who was a fan of Robert E. Howard,may God rest their souls to peace) intended it to be. A world where gritty adventurers make their way in the world through steel and magic
Nah, you exaggerating now

I agree there is inclusivity in many games nowadays but I always play RPG the same way I am in RL which is CIS white male and there is always content and things that appeal to me and keep me entertained like they always have

Inclusivity doesnt mean you replace a certain demographic so they feel alienated. For example its about giving people options and choice around character and NPC party selection
100%
You can laugh at the journalists crying that John Baldursgate is the majority choice, without shitting on people who don't play as John Baldursgate.
I mean. I don't play as John Baldursgate. Once the game actually releases my character will be a Drow Ranger with dual scimitars Necromancer Wizard once they actually add it into the fucking game.
 
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Larian is responsible for the awful art direction they’ve been pushing in the last updates with the bards one being an epitome of cringe. They are also responsible for subverting the expectations of those who they were appealing to with the first trailer.
 

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Forgotten Realms is basically Ed Greenwood's "Magical Realm",if you think about it.
The funny thing is that these "rules" are setting specific at best if they can be considered proper rules themselves since I as a DM can choose to drop those rules because they aren't appropriate for the setting. Most of the games I've ever played were in custom settings.

How about an all human campaign? I can do that. The game is probably better that way since when everyone plays, they're pretty much just role-playing as humans with different number bonuses.

Rare magical gear? Dark Sun was already more extreme in that regard. Masterwork metal weapons are incredibly rare, good luck even conceiving of commonly available sex-change belts without contradicting the setting. That's also noting that such sex-change belts are literally just Greenwood in Greenwood's setting. The only developers in the FR setting that used them was Bioware in both BG games (the belt in BG1 which was nothing but an easter egg, the Netherese scroll curse on Edwina which was used more as a joke, and the joke ending for Edwina where he becomes a cranky wench in Waterdeep after a run-in with Greenwood's self-insert) and soon Larian (you can quote me on this when sex change magic is added in an EA update or in the final release if it ever happens). Though that's ignoring the Pathfinder setting and Owlcat's use of tranny characters within that setting.

Banning Evocation and blasting """"magic"""" at the table? I can do that too.

Reworking how a variety of mechanics function? I can do that too.

And many more possible rule changes at the table. The only requirement is the agreement for those changes between the DM and the players.
 

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"what the hell guys! We put in all the spazzed shit you dangerhaired freaks asked for! Now go make that non-binary demon xir of our dreams!!"
More like
>what the hell guys! we put the game up for beta testing, and you are all playing the same characters with the same builds making the same choices! at this rate, there will be many unreported bugs!"
You need to make a hairy dwarf woman in order to notice female dwarves mustaches clip during a cutscene.
Why can't they just hire their own beta testers like in the old days? They're a big company. I'm sure they can afford it. There are probably some belgian university students down the street who would mind playing video games and eating some free waffles for 10 euros/hour on weekends.
 

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You are right,turnip peddler.
However,I dislike this Forgotten Realms fixation on demihumans and other races,not to mention Greenwood's self insert uber wizard who fucks pretty much everything that walks on two legs and wrecks pretty much everyone,because he is oh so powerful(hurray for Elminster,the Mary Sue). Like I said,fuck "Magical Realm" type DM's and creators who insert their every fucking fetish in a game that was originally conceived as a Heroic Sword&Sorcery adventure.

Evocation has some very good spells that are not of the "Blasting" type.
 

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"what the hell guys! We put in all the spazzed shit you dangerhaired freaks asked for! Now go make that non-binary demon xir of our dreams!!"
More like
>what the hell guys! we put the game up for beta testing, and you are all playing the same characters with the same builds making the same choices! at this rate, there will be many unreported bugs!"
You need to make a hairy dwarf woman in order to notice female dwarves mustaches clip during a cutscene.
Why can't they just hire their own beta testers like in the old days? They're a big company. I'm sure they can afford it. There are probably some belgian university students down the street who would mind playing video games and eating some free waffles for 10 euros/hour on weekends.
I am sure they have their own testers in addition to all the early access players. Testing games isn't the same as just playing, its very different as anyone who's been in an old fashioned beta would know.
However, you are acting like its a big investment for them to say "hey, guys, pick different options" and get some more information. Or that its not an old tabletop trope that only boring normies play as the male human warrior with a sword. Really, this entire thing was blown way out of proportion by the GamerGate YouTube industrial complex looking for a new issue to milk. Larian, of all companies developing today, are now what you are accusing them of being. You, as in the proverbial You, and not exactly you.
 

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