Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ChildInTime]

The "good" drow worship Eilistraee usually. I'm not sure if the Seldarine are the "good drow", though.

But are the good Drows still matriarchal? I was under the impression that the matriarchal aspect of their society is tied to the primacy of Lolth.

They aren't matriarchal. Lolth drow have females in power only because Lolth wills it. She got bitchslapped by Corellon and put in her place, this is where her hatred for males comes from, which she passes down to her followers.

 

[Elex]

Isn’t leveling too fast? I guess if you’ll complete all the quests in this chapter you can easily get into 6 given there will be no cap.

The number of fights, exploration and quest is similar to the pace of a D&D 5E printed adventure in 25-30 hours you reach lvl 5-6 (lvl 1-3 often are rushed or skipped) it’s the equivalent of 9-10 real life sessions.

 

[Elex]

Spoiler

I think that the unnamed drow is Minthara. If you side with the absolute instead of the druids she ends up in your camp. I just tried this now out of curiosity.

Sylvira Savikas (tiefling) Is a wizard from candlekeep, expert in devil/demons and with knowledge on the blood war.
She was present in BG descent in avernus.
During the adventure she was in candlekeep and i don’t think she move out.

 

[onemananadhisdroid]

What's up with the phase spider ranged attacks? https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/phase-spider

Meanwhile, Steamspy has updated its 500k-1M estimates to 1M-2M.
https://steamspy.com/app/1086940

 

[Robber Baron]

Failed perception check of whats probably a trap -> just throw something in general direction to trigger it
Honestly some mechanics of DoS legacy are a welcome addition

 

[Elex]

Forgive me brother, for the +Cha and +Dex was too charming for a warlock.




Reddit is surprisingly reasonable when it comes to feedback about this game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGat...back_character_creation_should_include_class/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGat...ackive_compiled_a_list_of_prevalent_gameplay/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGat...nion_larians_dialogue_system_doesnt_work_for/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/j7befc/feedback_in_character_creation_show_us_what/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/j8t1oq/feedback_dont_punish_players_for_solving/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/j74zah/give_xp_for_bypassing_combat_in_dialogue/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGat...back_disable_spacebar_to_use_dialog_option_1/

Surprising when you consider how foot in mouth retarded /r/games and how dead /r/rpg_gamers is. Somehow their BG3 sub attracts a lot of good people.
Only explanation is that BG 3 warps spacetime and this is a glitch in the matrix.

It means that the only people that don’t play 5e are on the codex.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Eilistraee is one of those mega lame "goddess of beauty" types that advocate all sorts of dumb degenerate shit. I'm pretty sure she turns girls into hermaphrodites too.

Don't worship that backstabbing faggot. Go for Big Mama Lolth, if you fail her you can become a drider and we can hang out then.

 

[ChildInTime]

I went on reddit to check those feedback threads, instead I found this.

 

[ChildInTime]

Eilistraee is one of those mega lame "goddess of beauty" types that advocate all sorts of dumb degenerate shit. I'm pretty sure she turns girls into hermaphrodites too.

Don't worship that backstabbing faggot. Go for Big Mama Lolth, if you fail her you can become a drider and we can hang out then.

Said the spider.

 

[Robber Baron]

Enemies not reacting to explosive traps being triggered left and right is lame though

 

[Elex]

Failed perception check of whats probably a trap -> just throw something in general direction to trigger it
Honestly some mechanics of DoS legacy are a welcome addition

Like in tabletop.
DM:“Roll a perception check”
Dice: 2+5
DM: “there is no trap in the room”
Player:”i check the floor with my 10ft. Pole”

 

[Raghar]

I went on reddit to check those feedback threads, instead I found this.

And now you know why you should avoid gamming part of reddit.

 

[Robber Baron]

Like in tabletop.
DM:“Roll a perception check”
Dice: 2+5
DM: “there is no trap in the room”
Player:”i check the floor with my 10ft. Pole”

The kind of interactivity that should've been a norm in RPGs by 2020 (in a perfect world)

Also holy shit

Spoiler

There is a world map

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

That is, it's a soulless, commercialized, passionless cash grab that is released during a time when 90% of mainstream releases are the same thing.

1) Games don't have any soul in any religion and I doubt that even many hipsters in sphere of art would say such thing about actual art like painting and books (imho the very sentence "this book has a soul" sounds dumb as fuck)
2) Any aspect of your and anyone's life is commercialized in some form or another, since other people (who produce goods and services that you use) need to eat too. This game does not have micro-transactions and I haven't heard of planned DLC's before launch (as it was with Deadfire), so Larian is not most vile company out here.
3) Cash grab? Lol. You know what was a real cash grab in Larian's history? Beyond Divinity. I played that game and, god, I saw some shit. "Cash grab" in most cases means low production values, but even in "early access" state BG3 has relatively solid production quality. Maybe misplaced (these fucking dialogue cutscenes akin to Dragon Age, Witcher, Kindom Come Deliverance with every fucking unimportant NPC become old quite fast, for example), but still there was some effort.

Some people who was shitting on BG3 had some interesting points, but people like you tarnish reputation of any critique towards the game and later wonder why you not taken seriously.
Anyway, I know, nothing will convince you (or even if you will be somehow convinced - your pride will not allow of public admittance) and you will continue your laughable "crusade" against a computer game. I was just bored and decided to poke some whiny manchilds on codex (and thread about Larian game is fucking gold mine), you guys shrivel in agony so funny.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Cracked walls can be destroyed with blunt weapons, just an FYI.

 

[Lacrymas]

The "good" drow worship Eilistraee usually. I'm not sure if the Seldarine are the "good drow", though.

But are the good Drows still matriarchal? I was under the impression that the matriarchal aspect of their society is tied to the primacy of Lolth.

They aren't matriarchal. Lolth drow have females in power only because Lolth wills it. She got bitchslapped by Corellon and put in her place, this is where her hatred for males comes from, which she passes down to her followers.

They are, though.

 

[ChildInTime]

The "good" drow worship Eilistraee usually. I'm not sure if the Seldarine are the "good drow", though.

But are the good Drows still matriarchal? I was under the impression that the matriarchal aspect of their society is tied to the primacy of Lolth.

They aren't matriarchal. Lolth drow have females in power only because Lolth wills it. She got bitchslapped by Corellon and put in her place, this is where her hatred for males comes from, which she passes down to her followers.

They are, though.

I would argue it's not really a matriarchy, just a matter of practicality with no one actually enforcing the rule of women.

This society was built to empower all drow—males and females alike—to find their place and thrive on the surface world

In fact, the communities generally formed around a temple or shrine to the goddess, and thus were usually led by the clergy (which was mostly made up of women). There wasn't any rule preventing males from becoming leaders, though they rarely did. Nonetheless, Eilistraean communities were characterized by a very loose hierarchy, as everyone stood on the same ground.

 

[Xamenos]

They should pick a different name for Seldarine Drow if they are indeed those who worship Eilistraee. She is not part of the Seldarine.

 

[Konjad]

I like the fact that I could join goblins with the drow instead of some poor cliche refugee-druid combo and it was well made bundle of quests, where the "evil" side doesn't seem stupid or malicious for no reason, but instead is a normal society, albeit more akin to a religious bandit camp. I liked characters there more than those druid/refugee boring trash.

Companions seem to be fairly well made as well. To my huge surprise, because DOS2 had terribly boring ones. Although there are better and mediocre ones, but overall I am not annoyed by them, and some even like. They ain't typical fantasy "LET'S HELP EVERYONE!! WE GOOD!!!" cliche either, but instead seem more egocentric and focused on what's more important for the party and them.

Overall, the game seems MUCH better than I'd ever expect. Could be the best game Larian made so far, but I'll wait with such judgement for now until I play further.

 

[Drakortha]

That is, it's a soulless, commercialized, passionless cash grab that is released during a time when 90% of mainstream releases are the same thing.

1) Games don't have any soul in any religion

Games can be and have been a form of art. And like any art, CAN have soul if the artist puts it in. Not sure what religion has to do with it but I guess you're a religion-tard, so I guess carry on, then.

Any aspect of your and anyone's life is commercialized in some form or another, since other people need to eat too.

Okay, so poor developer needs to eat. Doesn't make this particular game not shit. Not sure what point you're trying to make here. You realize that the people who do the most work probably wind up getting the smallest cut of profits, right?

3) Cash grab? Lol. You know what was a real cash grab in Larian's history? Beyond Divinity. I played that game and, god, I saw some shit. "Cash grab" in most cases means low production values, but even in "early access" state BG3 has relatively solid production quality. Maybe misplaced (these fucking dialogue cutscenes akin to Dragon Age, Witcher, Kindom Come Deliverance with every fucking unimportant NPC become old quite fast, for example), but still there was some effort.

Full-Price for a barely working prototype doesn't evoke feelings of solid production quality, if you ask me. But hey you want to keep lowering your standards every year you reap what you sow. In the next few years you'll be paying full price for the character creator on games with the promise of a full polished game somewhere over the horizon.

Anyway, I know, nothing will convince you (or even if you will be somehow convinced - your pride will not allow of public admittance)

An actual decent game being released will convince me. Not your retarded logic.

 

[Lacrymas]

They should pick a different name for Seldarine Drow if they are indeed those who worship Eilistraee. She is not part of the Seldarine.

Do they mean that these are drow who worship the usual elven pantheon? I didn't know such existed and thought they couldn't exist because the usual elven pantheon don't accept them, so they are forced to either worship Lolth or Eilistraee.

 

[Xamenos]

They should pick a different name for Seldarine Drow if they are indeed those who worship Eilistraee. She is not part of the Seldarine.

Do they mean that these are drow who worship the usual elven pantheon? I didn't know such existed.

Neither did I, but that's the only thing that would justify the name. I think they just wanted a cool name that wasn't "Good Drow" or "Eilistraee worshippers" and didn't really think about it too much.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

They should pick a different name for Seldarine Drow if they are indeed those who worship Eilistraee. She is not part of the Seldarine.

Do they mean that these are drow who worship the usual elven pantheon? I didn't know such existed.

Neither did I, but that's the only thing that would justify the name. I think they just wanted a cool name that wasn't "Good Drow" or "Eilistraee worshippers" and didn't really think about it too much.

These are the writers who came up with Shadowheart, I'd say they did a better job than expected considering.

 

[AwesomeButton]

No, completely removed.
Still not a good race, but no longer awfull.
And you get A LOT of reactivity. So many Drow dialogue options.

Well, they were removed in both games for Viconia as well.

 

[Storyfag]

The "good" drow worship Eilistraee usually. I'm not sure if the Seldarine are the "good drow", though.

But are the good Drows still matriarchal? I was under the impression that the matriarchal aspect of their society is tied to the primacy of Lolth.

They aren't matriarchal. Lolth drow have females in power only because Lolth wills it. She got bitchslapped by Corellon and put in her place, this is where her hatred for males comes from, which she passes down to her followers.

Well, what about the strange requirements Eilistraee makes of her male priests?