Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lutte]

Here is a question - what is your guess, why don't we have any footage, or even any verbal description of the gameplay yet?

I don't live in Belgium and my name isn't Swen and surname isn't Vincke, so I can only guessing why exactly there is no gameplay revealed.
Hovewer, I have several theories about this and right now my main theory is plain and simple - they started to work on game only after E3 and did not produced anything yet.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...eplay-details-yet.127856/page-80#post-6166812
Nope. They've been spotted doing work on this way before.

 

[Infinitron]

Could be they want to reveal gameplay alongside the release of the Descent to Avernus module in September.

Could be they want to reveal gameplay at Gamescom, where they're less likely to be overshadowed by other games.

 

[AwesomeButton]

The rumor that they've been working on BG3 was spread quite a while ago, so no, they've been working on it for quite some time.

Why would they possibly hold back? Other companies have announced RPGs years before release and have been open about the gameplay. What makes Larian want to postpone revealing this?

Trying to garner new audience because they know the only people who are interested in BG3 at this time are fans of BG already, and they know the reveal of the combat system is going to cause a shitstorm on every forum, social media platform and YouTube video. In this context, the combat system might be TB and they are only hiding it because it isn't RTwP, but that's hilariously optimistic, and that's excluding the fans of TB they already have.

My own answer is that either Larian are feeling insecure about the community's reaction, as you say, or are feeling confident about it - like everyone will go super happy when they hear it's 3rd person action - but they are holding back on the reveal because they are aiming for maximum marketing/PR effect.

Whichever option it is though, is it safe to assume that the fact they are holding back means 3rd person action, as opposed to TB or RtwP? I think it is.

 

[Lilura]

The rumor that they've been working on BG3 was spread quite a while ago, so no, they've been working on it for quite some time.

Yep, they said themselves 2 years. 2 years and they can't announce perspective/combat system?

 

[CyberWhale]

They can, they just don't want to do it. Having you guys speculate and debate over it endlessly helps in creating buzz, internet visibility, and hype.

 

[Infinitron]

So, here's a theory which may well be incorrect, but a fun one.

Some people say Baldur's Gate III will surely be isometric, because it's Baldur's Gate, and because it's from Larian, it's what they know and it's what their Divinity audience is expecting.

Others are saying, no way is a game with a 300 man development team not a popamole action-RPG.

I say - why not both? There is one isometric game that undoubtedly had 300 developers and more - Diablo 3!

What if Larian are simply making a play for the Diablo audience? A story-driven top-down action-RPG with strong multiplayer support - a Divine Divinity for the next generation with a serious budget.

 

[Corvinus]

What if Larian are simply making a play for the Diablo audience?

 

[Lilura]

They can, they just don't want to do it.

They can but they don't have the guts.

If they were going the way of the former screencapped quote, the hype would increase by an order of magnitude and be positively sustained. (It's dying off now, and it's getting negative/toxic on Steam, retardit and even Larian's forums).

If they were going the way of the latter, BG3 would be dead in the water. It would sink like an anvil. Believe me.

 

[Chippy]

This thread is trying to match the level of dumb the game will reach or what?

Don't know about game (because we STILL don't have any footage of gameplay, ffs), but people here definitely compete with each others in "special" Olympics. I think it's safe to say that thread derailed completely at this point.

Here is a question - what is your guess, why don't we have any footage, or even any verbal description of the gameplay yet?

Everyone's feeling the hype generated by Larian.

 

[Viata]

Damn, Infinitron. Larian's cock is so deep into your mouth it's starting to hit your brain. That is the only explanation for what you posted.

 

[Lichtbringer]

What if Larian are simply making a play for the Diablo audience? A story-driven top-down action-RPG with strong multiplayer support - a Divine Divinity for the next generation with a serious budget.

I imagine that single player could be real-time with pause (RTwP) and multiplayer could be (faster paced) real-time, but going full Diablo or 'Hack & Slay' is pushing it way too far.

Side Note: I seriously doubt that a game with a AAA budget and 300+ developers could be turn-based, as it is too niche. Even JRPG developers are dropping turn-based combat.

 

[Lilura]

Also, the greater community is overestimating the legacy of RTwP: this is an inferior combat system that needs to die outside of AD&D-based IEs.

Surely Larian, who are turn-based "connoiseurs", know that the RTwP crowd can be quelled/reeducated.

From day one I've said, BG3 should be turn-based because 5th Edition is turn-based, and TB is superior.

And this from someone who's published 130 write-ups on BG. So obviously I'm a veteran, but I know what a great combat system is (ToEE/Jagged Alliance 2).

So Larian are not waiting to announce either RTwP or TB: they are entertaining full realtime or TB. Or some awful combo/switch-between, like VATS.

 

[Viata]

Both RTwP and the people that defend this shit should die.

 

[pomenitul]

I just get extremely triggered when Bulgarians claim literally foreigners with achievements to be Bulgarian, all the while we have perfectly good examples of Bulgarians with achievements who are actually Bulgarian. It's a pet peeve of mine. Another golden example I hate is the saints Cyril and Methodius.

Classic Eastern European inferiority complex. See also: all romance languages are derived from proto-Daco-Romanian. Or: human history began in the 12th century, with the 'Russian Horde'. I also recall a conversation I once had with a guy who was dead set on arguing that Jesus and Socrates were in fact Armenian. Then again, some Americans believe that the King James Version is the original Bible, because English is the language of God, so there's enough crazy to go around.

 

[Shadenuat]

Who makes the best RPGs now though, be it indie middle or popamole? where are your last saviors from California? sold to Microsoft.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

, because English is the language of God,

this is fucking stupid
god speaks American

 

[Nuclear Explosion]

Armenia isn't an Eastern European country.

 

[Lagole Gon]

Jesus was Polish.

 

[Viata]

Given the Old Testament, God speaks Hebraic.

 

[pomenitul]

Armenia isn't an Eastern European country.

Depends on your definition. Some models of Eastern Europe include it.

 

[Sharpedge]

After catching up with the last 10 pages I am struggling to see what most of it has to do with Baldur's Gate III.

 

[Chippy]

This whole Codexian infatuation with TB really shows a certain level of entitlement. It's like walking into a gay bar with your ass-cheeks exposed through those cowboy chaps (or whatever they're called) and then being suprised if you get fondled. In all honesty, if Larian keep it RTWP, manage 1/10 of the tone, 50% decent combat on the originals and a half-decent story...I'll probably buy it in a sale.

Feel free to pile on the retard tags - but every one counts as a butthurt one in reply, cause you know it's the best you can hope for.

 

[pomenitul]

After catching up with the last 10 pages I am struggling to see what most of it has to do with Baldur's Gate III.

You've got some breaking news to share with us?

 

[Shadenuat]

tbh I don't see why should we care if it's TB or not because there are many TB games now. I'd say TB games now outnumber RTwP games like 10:1.

I guess the only thing missing is pure D&D ToEE like with encounters which are actually good. But maybe Realms Beyond will be that.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

After catching up with the last 10 pages I am struggling to see what most of it has to do with Baldur's Gate III.

Pretty sure arguing about D&D mechanics has a lot to do with a D&D video game adaptation