Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Alienman]

Since alignment is out, does a paladin still have to be good?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Just remove Paladin. I need no Lawful Stupid religious zealot in my party. Shoo.

Paladins have no alignment restriction in D&D5

Hahaha, ho man, should have figured they'd dilute the lore even further.

 

[Mortmal]

Since alignment is out, does a paladin still have to be good?

Nope, paladin have oath of vengeance or oath of conquest and of course oathbreaker. You can be as evil as you want .

 

[Reinhardt]

Since alignment is out, does a paladin still have to be good?

Well, killing gay elf vampire is required and it's act of good.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Remove vampire elf fag. Seriously - i will kill this creature on sight. There is nothing to even discuss.

How about letting vampires live and killing Paladins instead.

 

[Turuko]

4 party size is a shame. Mods wont help because of balance issues.

I don't know where this "party size of 4" comes from, but it's a) not confirmed and b) shown in the leaked screenshots to not be true.

The inventory screen seems to be "made" for 4 characters. But yeah, the leaked images show 5 PCs

there will be battles with more char for sure but they will probably be situational like in DOS2
and i'm not sure you will be able to control the additional ones

 

[AwesomeButton]

I demand a different quality to writing now.

Exactly, whatever they do they can't win. If writing say the same it'll be goofy and too larianesque, if they change it it will be #NOTMYBALDURSGATE
The only winning move is to be a fencesitter and shitpoast.

You don't see me going "#NOTMYBALDURSGATE", so I can't answer for those people.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Since alignment is out, does a paladin still have to be good?

I think the 5e Paladin is similar to Pathfinder 2e Champion Class? Basically they are warrior enforcer of the respective god and their alignment should follow the god they are worshipping.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Once you got your tank, healer, thief and spell slinger, that's that. A party of four means you'll never bring along any of the more unorthodox classes.

 

[norolim]

Have you all played BG and IWD knowing the D&D rules? Be honest.

I was playing and DM-ing AD&D a lot at the time, so when I started my first playthrough of BG2 I knew the rules very well. First, I built a copy of my PnP character. His name was Stratus and he was a huge, dumb warrior with a 2H sword. After a few encounters I restarted with a completely new one.

As far as BG3, it is indeed too similar to DOS2, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. It is has a rather evolved TB combat, from what I saw and read a fairly faithful representation of 5E, it's pseudo-isometric... what's not to like? Well, there are a few minor things.

First, a party of just 4. That's just unacceptable in a BG game. Larian should make an effort to increase the size from what they had in OS2, because this is just being lazy. Second, UI is a clutter-fuck. I hope this is not the final version, because it needs a lot of tidying. And last but not least, among the origin choices there don't seem to be any options for gamers that want to play as a male character, but not a homosexual one. I hope, making my own character(s) is a viable option in terms of gameplay and content.

One last thing. It seems the fears, some had in 2017, that Codex would be swarmed by fugitives from neogaf were justified, after all. The amount of retarded nufags ITT, complaining about graphics, lip-syncing, jump animations and other such trivial shit and asking for RTwP combat is astounding. Guys, I heard the neogaf forum has been renamed to something else (neofag?) and re-established. You should check it out... I'm sure you'll fit in just fine.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

I don't know where this "party size of 4" comes from

In the status screen there were four distinct character slots.

Where has it shown more?

 

[Lacrymas]

there will be battles with more char for sure but they will probably be situational like in DOS2
and i'm not sure you will be able to control the additional ones

Here's a battle with additional NPCs you can't control, they are not shown where your party is -

 

[DJOGamer PT]

I'm not really part of the Codex family

 

[Cryomancer]

Even something as artificial as cool-downs can make sense. It all depends on said settings rules...

Name one. Except in REd Orchestra where your LMG can overheat(but you can change the barrel) i can't think in a single reason to have it...

Balance is not about making a game all around symmetric, like Sawyer thinks. It's about knowing what to take, and more importantly, give to the players while still maintaining a sense of challenge and accomplishment. Additionally in the case of games with multiple playstyles, like figthing games or RPG's, it's also must do that while preserving the uniqueness and utility of each playstyle. Each tool for the rigth job and all that...

Yep. But look to NWN1. Nobody play pale masters there exactly because they are useless. One summon limit + no caster level gain kills the class...

warlocks on nwn2 also are nerfed to oblivion compared to pnp due """""balances""""" and are useless without mods.

In D&D 5, metamagic feats are a class feature for sorcerers, it's enough to make them very different from wizards.

Not only that. Your bloodline affects a lot of things on your characters

 

[Lacrymas]

In the status screen there were four distinct character slots.

Where has it shown more?

In the leaked screenshots before the stream.

 

[Greenante]

I hope I get to keep the tadpole but I hate that I live in a world where it's even a choice to kill such a sacred life.

 

[Decado]

Yeah I'm not using the word in that sense. I'm talking about CRPG grognards, not old wargaming grognards.

Noted. Yeah, the term seems to be employed more relatively these days, and also as an adjective. So we get erroneous degrees of grognard. But I'd rebel at using grognard to describe a Goldbox gamer. Vocab fails at this point because it hasn't been talked about much.

This was actually my first introduction to the use of word -- to describe old CRPG players who felt that the Goldbox games were the pinnacle achievement of CRPGs. Which they may have well been back then, but they were admittedly a little before my time.

 

[NJClaw]

4 party size is a shame. Mods wont help because of balance issues.

I don't know where this "party size of 4" comes from, but it's a) not confirmed and b) shown in the leaked screenshots to not be true.

This is the inventory screen:

Spoiler

But maybe it's just a work in progress.

 

[FranticDistortion]

Given that they are reusing the same engine as DoS2, I want to know how moddable the game will be, and can we add classes into the game ourselves?

People did add classes and balance mods for D:OS2, so this one will have the same shit or more.

 

[Lacrymas]

I hope I get to keep the tadpole but I hate that I live in a world where it's even a choice to kill such a sacred life.

Speaking of, the "safest" and most dependable way of removing a tadpole is by squashing the person's head and then resurrecting them. Not sure why Larian want to perverse the lore so much when other curses or timers could be employed instead (if they want an element of that).

 

[FranticDistortion]

4 party size is a shame. Mods wont help because of balance issues.

I don't know where this "party size of 4" comes from, but it's a) not confirmed and b) shown in the leaked screenshots to not be true.

This is the inventory screen:

Spoiler

But maybe it's just a work in progress.

Probably 4 only. Steam Clearly states that coop is 4 people max, which probably matches squad size.

 

[Lacrymas]

4 party size is a shame. Mods wont help because of balance issues.

I don't know where this "party size of 4" comes from, but it's a) not confirmed and b) shown in the leaked screenshots to not be true.

This is the inventory screen:

Spoiler

But maybe it's just a work in progress.

I'm pretty sure they are going to go with 4 due to D:OS, but I'm hoping they don't. Or maybe have a feat which expands the party size, like Leadership in SoZ.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Did they add maps too?

That is the one thing where i think they dropped the ball in Temple of Elemental Evil. They had a good combat system but poor support for custom content. Sooooo many pen and paper modules they could have ported on that, but we got nothing.

 

[Cryomancer]

Only by not having dialog wheels, cooldowns and spells/unarmed attacks scaling with weapon like most mainstream modern games like D3 and DA:I makes this game worth playing.

On G2 - REturning, a vendor even asks why you need a weapon if you are a necromancer

Spoiler

I din't played dos2 much but if i remember correctly at least dos2 din't had cooldowns.

Other thing that i liked is that seems like vampire spawn(At least the rogue that Sween played) will be in the game. Anyone knows if i can be a vampire on BG3?

I tried to install vampirism mods for BG1/2 but din't worked

 

[Hamster]

Have you all played BG and IWD knowing the D&D rules? Be honest.

The same video game magazine that informed me of BG's existance also provided a quick rundown of the most important dnd terms like negative armour class and thaco. It took less than half a page.