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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

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The illithid only needed a few seconds above a city to snatch a handful of people. The danger to the nautiloid seems to be negligible before the githyanki arrived. Snatching a few people from a city seems to be a faster way of achieving the objective with no tradeoff.
But the dramatic theatricality paints a mark on the illithid when people know others are kidnapped. It's very easy to call a crusade against the illithids in those circumstances.
Isn't there already an ongoing crusade against them? I don't think he could fly his ship in small areas, without the same dragon riders appearing to slit him, but probably the excuse is that he was running out of time.
 

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I can buy that that illithid is rogue, it would actually make sense with the other mind flayer bodies around. But attacking a city while trying to make more mind flayers is retarded. If the hosts are left unsupervised, they are vulnerable and can easily be killed. If it wants to infest people with tadpoles, random travelers would be better, why attack a city with a single spelljammer?

The illithid only needed a few seconds above a city to snatch a handful of people. The danger to the nautiloid seems to be negligible before the githyanki arrived. Snatching a few people from a city seems to be a faster way of achieving the objective with no tradeoff.
There is also that other movie on yt, with the gith lady intro, where she remarks that something doesn't add up. That they should be already bleeding from the nose etc., but instead they feel and act like on magical steroids.

(maybe daddy B. impregnated an elder brain once upon the time, and now they carry Bhaalspawn tadpoles around, lol)
 

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But after 7 days they are technically is on the side of the mind flyers. Yeah, they won't be super powerful tentacle monster but they will work to help him, right? I am not sure about DnD lore but as the hosts are physically mature I reckon they should be able to function physically as well.
As much as newborn babies can help you with anything. They are fully grown in the sense of their physical bodies, but they have no skills or experience in anything.
 

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Also attacking random cities in broad daylight seems odd.
bolster his forces by kidnapping people.
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Did you people even follow the conversation??? It was spelled out for you that it take 20ish years to make tentacleface.

Huh, here: https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Ceremorphosis and https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Ceremorphosis , it is listed as 7 days. Maybe 20ish years includes actually growing the tadpole. The actual process is much faster.
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Did you read it??? It says that you become a full grown tentacleface in 20ish years. The eating brain part and the body modification is done in 7 days. Even in seven days cycle it seems redundant to kidnap people when you are chased.
The mature tadpole is inserted into the ear of a living humanoid, where it burrows into the creature's brain. It quickly consumes the brain and grows to fill the creature's skull, leaving the lower brain stem intact. The tadpole attaches itself to the brain stem, melding its mind with the creature's body. Implantation is complete within only three minutes.

Over the next few days, the body undergoes a massive physical transformation into the recognizable form of a mind flayer. All traces of the original creature's mind are erased by the process. The process of ceremorphosis is irreversable even by magical means after one hour.

The transformation into a mind flayer is complete after seven days. Following ceremorphosis, a mind flayer takes up to 21 years to reach full maturity.


But after 7 days they are technically is on the side of the mind flyers. Yeah, they won't be super powerful tentacle monster but they will work to help him, right? I am not sure about DnD lore but as the hosts are physically mature I reckon they should be able to function physically as well.
No,it is like taking care of a baby,it is useless. That is why they are made in the colony and not on spaceships. It would be more useful to just mind control them in to thralls. But that will still be pointless,it is not like they could do anything to a bunch of dragons.



Fuck it is depressing seeing us here talk about some halfassed trailer with more lore holes than hobo's socks. We are all overthinking that shit,it is not like larian has the creative brain power to come up with something interesting.
 

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Bitching about the storyline when we haven't seen shit is useless cmon
You must be new to this thread. People were bitching about the game for hundreds of pages before we even had the gameplay. Or any concrete info for that matter.

bolster his forces by kidnapping people.
:nocountryforshitposters:
Did you people even follow the conversation??? It was spelled out for you,a few times,that it takes 20ish years to make tentacleface.
So we have 20 years to seek treatment? No pressure.

But on more serious note - it was suggested by the Gith-woman that the worm is making its host better, instead of worse. We can even see that directly by seeing the changes for the Vampire Spawn. It's also possible that it could be trying to achieve symbiosis of some sort and that the process of becoming tentacle monster is accelerated somehow (otherwise why the sense of urgency?).

Keep in mind that the theme of corruption is going to be present, so expect to be able to join the Illithids (and probably killing everybody who doesn't share that idea). I sincerely doubt that we will have to wait 20 years for that to happen.
 

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add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design
If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.
 

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Here's the thing. If you want to make a story in which the protagonists have superpowers due to some weird thing, why perverse already established lore? Or the game can be about mind flayers without us being infected. There isn't a single instance in the lore where being infested with a tadpole gives you superpowers. It doesn't even make sense, the tadpoles can't be commanded to do anything (like "give superpowers instead of feasting!"), they are parasites which uncontrollably eat.
 

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That garbage aside,i would be interested to battle some Neothelid and Brainstealer dragon. But i doubt that they will do it justice.
 
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Considering we know very, very little about the specifics of the plot, it seems a bit premature to talk about how Larian is ruining lore. Although a lot of people are saying the whole game is trash too for nebulous reasons.
 

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You must be new to this thread. People were bitching about the game for hundreds of pages before we even had the gameplay. Or any concrete info for that matter.

And guess what? We guessed everything right. Our shit taking was justified and we got to get An early start on it. Let's get an early start on everything we know Larian studio likes to fuck with.
 

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Considering we know very, very little about the specifics of the plot, it seems a bit premature to talk about how Larian is ruining lore. Although a lot of people are saying the whole game is trash too for nebulous reasons.
They ruined more lore in 5 minutes than whole games usually do, so that's quite an achievement. And everyone who knows anything about mind flayers can notice it immediately, it's not some obscure knowledge from arcane books nobody has read.
 

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Bitching about the storyline when we haven't seen shit is useless cmon
You must be new to this thread. People were bitching about the game for hundreds of pages before we even had the gameplay. Or any concrete info for that matter.

bolster his forces by kidnapping people.
:nocountryforshitposters:
Did you people even follow the conversation??? It was spelled out for you,a few times,that it takes 20ish years to make tentacleface.
So we have 20 years to seek treatment? No pressure.

But on more serious note - it was suggested by the Gith-woman that the worm is making its host better, instead of worse. We can even see that directly by seeing the changes for the Vampire Spawn. It's also possible that it could be trying to achieve symbiosis of some sort and that the process of becoming tentacle monster is accelerated somehow (otherwise why the sense of urgency?).

Keep in mind that the theme of corruption is going to be present, so expect to be able to join the Illithids (and probably killing everybody who doesn't share that idea). I sincerely doubt that we will have to wait 20 years for that to happen.
It is 3 to maybe 7 days,depending on how is the lore on eating brain and making you in to monster. On that note i am curious if the game will let you to just rest spam a week till you die. It will be incline if,but i doubt it. Most likely the pod is put in some mcguffin stasis magic and you have to find some rock of something something to get healed. But then it turns out that the rock could only heal 4 people thus making you choose which of the companions will end up as tentacle faced enemy later on and which will be companions......you know,like in dos2.
 

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The tadpole eats your brain in an hour, the gestating period is one week after that in which the host body is completely immobile and defenseless. You can't rest spam for a week because you are already dead after your brain has been eaten. Duh. Ceremorphosis doesn't work like in that first trailer we got 8 months ago.
 

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I only have high hopes for the gameplay and exploration, the writing is obviously made-up on the spot and going to be Tumblr-tier. I also rewatched some parts of the gameplay video right now and I think people are jumping to conclusions about the vampire being gay. He says he tried to seduce the noble to bring him to his master, you don't need to be gay to do that. I'd actually do it so Astarion isn't gay but his master forced him to seduce male victims just to toy with him and be that little bit extra cruel.
 
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There is also that other movie on yt, with the gith lady intro, where she remarks that something doesn't add up. That they should be already bleeding from the nose etc., but instead they feel and act like on magical steroids.

(maybe daddy B. impregnated an elder brain once upon the time, and now they carry Bhaalspawn tadpoles around, lol)
This theory sounds frighteningly in tune with BG2's cocktail-of-everything-epic approach.
 

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Swen/WOTC changed the lore apparently there are different forms of ceremorphosis now (form an interview from last June) https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2019-baldurs-gate-3-aims-to-do-what-no-other-rp/1100-6467440/
Then you see that there's been conflict clearly. There's dead bodies everywhere and then something's happening to this knight and he's actually undergoing a version of what we would call accelerated ceremorphosis, which is basically a way of reproduction that these creatures called the mind flayers have.
 

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I only have high hopes for the gameplay and exploration, the writing is obviously made-up on the spot and going to be Tumblr-tier. I also rewatched some parts of the gameplay video right now and I think people are jumping to conclusions about the vampire being gay. He says he tried to seduce the noble to bring him to his master, you don't need to be gay to do that.

God forbid the character is gay might make codexers uncomfortable.
 

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And what in that hour of gameplay made you so optimistic?
Physical feats, being able to climb/jump on basically anything in reach which opens up obscure hiding spots, faithful adaptation of 5E, no random items, skill checks during exploration, the maps looked open enough, etc.

God forbid the character is gay might make codexers uncomfortable.
It's not about that, it's just people jump to conclusions when anything non-straight is mentioned. We know everyone is bi, though, so yeah. They won't have the balls to make the Rogue PC gay because he's probably going to be a popular choice due to being a Rogue. And despite the autistic screeching of anti-SJWs, gays still aren't going to be made protagonists.
 
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You guys are thrashing game for ruining the lore, but you yourself have been arguing about how long it takes for those worms to eat someone's brain out and turn them into Japanese schoolgirl's dream for like 2 days.
 

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