Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Arneson was a storyfag anyway.

Dave Arneson's proto-D&D Blackmoor campaign involved a surprisingly large number of character stats for supposedly being focused on story.

 

[Sweeper]

Larianfags are decline incarnate.
We've had our Underrail and PF:KM. The renaissance was nice while it lasted.
Time to go back to the dark ages.

 

[Haplo]

Larianfags are decline incarnate.
We've had our Underrail and PF:KM. The renaissance was nice while it lasted.
Time to go back to the dark ages.

Come on, WotR is in development!

 

[Sweeper]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
I'll reserve judgement until after the game is released.

 

[guestposting]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
I'll reserve judgement until after the game is released.

First two chapters of WOTR are currently playable for those of us with alpha access and they’re fantastic.

 

[Sweeper]

That's good.
But I still ain't getting on no hype trains...
I've been burned too many times.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

That's good.
But I still ain't getting on no hype trains...
I've been burned too many times.

I specifically don't get on hype train because once I all the games I was hyped for ended up being garbage. I now firmly believe that I'm cursed and I jinx future games simply by being excited about them. I'm defending BG3 here but I'm not excited in the least as a precaution.

 

[Ontopoly]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
I'll reserve judgement until after the game is released.

First two chapters of WOTR are currently playable for those of us with alpha access and they’re fantastic.

Do they follow the general format of kingmaker? Do a couple preliminary quests then a big dungeon as a finale? Were there big dungeons in the first two chapters? Honestly the best part of kingmaker for me were those big levels since recent games have been disappointing in that regard

 

[guestposting]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
I'll reserve judgement until after the game is released.

First two chapters of WOTR are currently playable for those of us with alpha access and they’re fantastic.

Do they follow the general format of kingmaker? Do a couple preliminary quests then a big dungeon as a finale? Were there big dungeons in the first two chapters? Honestly the best part of kingmaker for me were those big levels since recent games have been disappointing in that regard

Yes, yes and yes. Fewer small side locations than Kingmaker—not sure if that’s a design choice or if they just haven’t put them in yet—but there are a bunch of big maps and the finale of both chapters is a big dungeon.

 

[Elex]

 

[Elex]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
I'll reserve judgement until after the game is released.

First two chapters of WOTR are currently playable for those of us with alpha access and they’re fantastic.

Do they follow the general format of kingmaker? Do a couple preliminary quests then a big dungeon as a finale? Were there big dungeons in the first two chapters? Honestly the best part of kingmaker for me were those big levels since recent games have been disappointing in that regard

Yes, yes and yes. Fewer small side locations than Kingmaker—not sure if that’s a design choice or if they just haven’t put them in yet—but there are a bunch of big maps and the finale of both chapters is a big dungeon.

Sound good, i hope is not too much linear.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I’m also a sucker for music and D:OS2’s is excellent.

Now imagine if Kirill was still alive...

Goddammit men that still hurts.

 

[Ontopoly]

Sound good, i hope is not too much linear.

I'm the opposite. I've always appreciated a linear experience more. One of us will just have to be slightly disappointed in that regard.

 

[Lacrymas]

The best RPG structure is having a main quest that can be completed in a variety of ways. Exploration and side questing make more sense then, you never know where the solution will pop up. Being led by the nose from NPC to NPC during the main quest and then having random side quests sprinkled in is awful.

 

[Ontopoly]

The best RPG structure is having a main quest that can be completed in a variety of ways. Exploration and side questing make more sense then, you never know where the solution will pop up. Being led by the nose from NPC to NPC during the main quest and then having random side quests sprinkled in is awful.

You can still have multiple solutions without letting me go to falkreath or dawn star when ever I want to, but I guess there was never a risk of wrath of the righteous ever being like that

 

[fantadomat]

Larianfags are decline incarnate.
We've had our Underrail and PF:KM. The renaissance was nice while it lasted.
Time to go back to the dark ages.

Ahhh why go back?!?! Just ignore this trash and focus on the true incline that is coming out in the end of the year .

 

[Saravan]

Larianfags are decline incarnate.
We've had our Underrail and PF:KM. The renaissance was nice while it lasted.
Time to go back to the dark ages.

Ahhh why go back?!?! Just ignore this trash and focus on the true incline that is coming out in the end of the year .

Yeah listen to this guy who is definitely ignoring this trash.

 

[Cryomancer]

Just ignore this trash

When larianfags says things like "dos2 is the modern baldur's gate", is hard to ignore then... How someone can believe that a game with cooldowns, item fever, retarded armor system, only numeric ""progression"", cringe writing(...) is the "new baldur's gate"?

 

[NJClaw]

Just ignore this trash

When larianfags says things like "dos2 is the modern baldur's gate", is hard to ignore then... How someone can believe that a game with cooldowns, item fever, retarded armor system, only numeric ""progression"", cringe writing(...) is the "new baldur's gate"?

There's a D:OS retrospective where even Swen says that Baldur's Gate was the last thing they were going for, but when everyone started saying shit like that they decided to go along with it.

 

[Swen]

Just ignore this trash

When larianfags says things like "dos2 is the modern baldur's gate", is hard to ignore then... How someone can believe that a game with cooldowns, item fever, retarded armor system, only numeric ""progression"", cringe writing(...) is the "new baldur's gate"?

Indeed, Dos2 was better than Baldur's Gate. Wotc saw this too hence them giving their inferior franchise to Larian so they can make it better.

 

[fantadomat]

Just ignore this trash

When larianfags says things like "dos2 is the modern baldur's gate", is hard to ignore then... How someone can believe that a game with cooldowns, item fever, retarded armor system, only numeric ""progression"", cringe writing(...) is the "new baldur's gate"?

Ahhh i don't mean literally ignore them,just don't get butthurt over a bunch of retards. It is not like the first time we get a upcoming popular game and the codex gets flooded by drooling retarded fanboyz. Same was with pillars,as it was with Bethesda games. It is shame that admins don't kick out the most retarded.

 

[Mortmal]

Here's a sample of how ridiculous lvl 10+ actually is -

When clerics reach 9th level (Matriarch/Patriarch), they may choose to construct a castle (see p. X52) or stronghold. If they have not lost the favor of their deity, the cost of building the castlewill be half the normal amount due to miraculous assistance from the deity. For example, if a cleric spends 50,000 gp on a castle, the cleric would actually be able to build a structure that normally costs 100,000 gp. Furthermore, once the castle is completed, fanatically loyal troops (the "faithful", who never need to check morale) will come to defend the cleric. There will be from 50-300 soldiers (5d6x 10), from l-2nd level, armed with various weapons. It is up to the DM to determine their exact composition (how many archers, how many cavalry, etc.)

How do you proceed from here?

At this point your party members are small feudal lords , your adventures determines the outcome of wars and fate of entire countries . It's easy to keep going on,just think bigger scope, send them on far away journey to gather rare artefacts, the followers are still low level fighters that wont follow in dungeons. Even if they do , CR10+ encounters and attrition alone would wipe them out. Write some stronghold related quests too. A good Dm can bring your character to godhood , becmi covered that very well.

 

[Cryomancer]

Indeed, Dos2 was better than Baldur's Gate. Wotc saw this too hence them giving their inferior franchise to Larian so they can make it better.

LOL... dos2 is better than bg in what aspect?
Story - Inferior
Narrative/Mechanic consistency = inferior
Amount of spells = Inferior
Immersion = Inferior
Variety on spell effects and magical items = inferior
Build variety = inferior
(...)

It is not like the first time we get a upcoming popular game and the codex gets flooded by drooling retarded fanboyz

I purchased dos2 far before i joined on Codex. That mistake was thanks to Shadiversity which said good things about the game and i purchased expecting everything that i love from Baldur's Gate, but got everything that i hate on 99% of modern games.

About BG3, i was concerned due "missing obvious not work"(something that works since Gold Box) and "spell slots aren't intuitive when even console games like Dark Souls 1/2 and even Final Fantasy 1 uses it but the gameplay gave me a little hope.

I will purchase Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous, THEN Cyberpunk 2077 THEN if there are no class butchering, BG3.

 

[fantadomat]

Oh yeah,i am buying the new pathfinder too.

 

[DraQ]

When larianfags says things like "dos2 is the modern baldur's gate"

That's preposterous - DOS2 is actually good.

How someone can believe that a game with cooldowns, item fever, retarded armor system

And that's despite those things you listed which BG1 didn't have.