Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Morgoth]

So u guise think this won't have 2D rendered background art?

 

[santino27]

Sadly. Worse, I played it co-op with my wife.

If you're still married after a trial like that, then she's the one - never let her go.

Many decades and counting, with hopefully many more to come.

But she also loves DA2, so it's not all sunshine and roses.

 

[Delterius]

Sadly. Worse, I played it co-op with my wife.

If you're still married after a trial like that, then she's the one - never let her go.

Can confirm. I played the NWN OC with a friend of mine and we are no longer friends. Coincidence? You decide.

whoever recommended this mutiplayer should have been suicided

 

[MpuMngwana]

have never done action combat

Both Divine Divinity and Divinity 2 are action RPGs.

What's funny about this is, for Larian making an action RPG could be considered going back to their roots.

 

[Ulrox]

whoever recommended this mutiplayer should have been suicided

I disagree. I actually found it fun noticing all the spelling errors in that campaign, and considering just how rushed and or drunk bioware was when they wrote it, but I must admit to having been very disappointed when it came out.

 

[Jenkem]

Wow that video was totally awesome! Very funny and let's you know that the humor in this game will be so fierce! Larian SLAYS! This will probably being the best Baldur's Gate game ever, sis!

 

[Lacrymas]

Wow that video was totally awesome! Very funny and let's you know that the humor in this game will be so fierce! Larian SLAYS! This will probably being the best Baldur's Gate game ever, sis!

Better than even Dark Alliance 2, which was the best Baldur's Gate game up till now!

 

[luj1]

You can't know for a fact that it won't be like DOS.

You should challenge Fluent to a duel

 

[Delterius]

whoever recommended this mutiplayer should have been suicided

I disagree. I actually found it fun noticing all the spelling errors in that campaign, and considering just how rushed and or drunk bioware was when they wrote it, but I must admit to having been very disappointed when it came out.

I'm sending your name to the church for prayers.

 

[Ulrox]

Wow that video was totally awesome! Very funny and let's you know that the humor in this game will be so fierce! Larian SLAYS! This will probably being the best Baldur's Gate game ever, sis!

Better than even Dark Alliance 2, which was the best Baldur's Gate game up till now!

It was ok for a console game. Fallout brotherhood of steel however.......

 

[luj1]

Larian has existed since 1996, and they have been a good developer, in my eyes atleast, since that time.

Back in the day no one wanted to touch Divinity Divinity with a 10 feet pole. It was like a third-rate RPG

The only reason they are getting attention now is because the standard has sunk incredibly low

 

[Strange Fellow]

Divinity Original Sin was a great game you edgy fucks

 

[hexer]

Steam forums are on fire

 

[Lacrymas]

Divinity Original Sin was a great game you edgy fucks

Great implies "no compromises to be able to enjoy it", while that can't be further from the truth for D:OS.

 

[Infinitron]

Kyl Von Kull The strange thing, to me, are people's visceral reactions when they are made to observe such plain facts. The button brigade of retard, butthurt etc comes out of the wood work, but we're just telling them what is painfully obvious: this is not going to be a game like D:OS or the IE games. It just isn't, and expecting anything else is to reject reality and replace it with something more comforting instead (I guess?).

We know the path Larian is going down, we've seen it before! It goes something like this:

1. Become known for making "good" games catering to a specific audience
2. Try to expand that audience - i.e. make more money - by tweaking your gameplay formula to be less niche
3. Release watered-down versions of your classics for years, reaping critical and financial success while making worse and worse games
4. Your employees forget how to make games of the type that made you famous initially, and your fan base is fully of massive mouth-breathers - literally and figuratively
5. Loathe your own fan base for not letting you pursue your vision
   
6. Finally, collapse under the weight of your own ineptitude as even game journalists must admit that you're just making shit

We saw interplay (under Herve's leadership) do this, we saw bioware do this, we saw westwood do this, we saw lucas arts do this, we saw sierra do this, we saw looking glass do this, we saw sid meier do this, we saw obsidian do this, we saw eidos do this, we see gollop doing this - shit we even saw DnD do this through the editions. This isn't a new phenomenon people!

And for those that bemoan the negativity: this isn't negative, it's just a reflection of reality. There is plenty to be *hopeful* for in terms of good games, but it just requires a bit more effort to find them than a lot of people pushing "butthurt" buttons in these BG3 threads care to exert. There is life beyond AAA/AA+ gaming, and it's glorious! Stop setting your hopes on these studios that are going to disappoint you - they're telling you upfront with their words and actions. You just need to think about it. Think!

Well here's one difference: Divinity Fallen Heroes is still a thing also.

 

[Ulrox]

Steam forums are on fire

It's funny to me, because, in the past - most people would have wanted real time. I remember when Diablo 2 came out, and everyone loved that - and by 'most people' I'm talking about general census, not 'rpg players'

 

[BEvers]

Original Sin was far too long and got repetitive pretty fast.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Well here's one difference: Divinity Fallen Heroes is still a thing also.

Larian understands that you can appeal to your core fanbase and a broader audience at the same time, all you need to do is make two different games.

 

[agris]

Infinitron I don't think I catch your meaning - how is a 3rd party making a (presumably) better version of the parent studio's IP a key difference from what I posted? That Larian dreck is resulting in promising-looking spin offs?

Yeah, that's cool. I'm all for good games. I don't see how it relates to my quoted post tho.

edit: just saw Kyl Von Kull 's post. That's a good point, except they (Larian) aren't the ones making it. But it keeps the brand in people's mind, that's for sure.

 

[John Keel]

Well here's one difference: Divinity Fallen Heroes is still a thing also.

Larian understands that you can appeal to your core fanbase and a broader audience at the same time, all you need to do is make two different games.

Isn't Fallen heroes mostly sub-contracted to another studio and pitched originally by third-party ?
It's also closer to a stand-alone add-on than a full-fledged game ....

 

[InD_ImaginE]

There is literally ONE single thing on which the greatness of Baldur's Gate 3 hinges and that thing is how far down the rabbit hole of cucked-up SJW bullshittery have M. Mearls and Co gone.

Larian can write whatever, the only ONE single thing that BG 3 greatness hanged upon is what game play system it will use.

A lot of games has decent and acceptable narrative of various political spectrum.

There are very few modern and good CRPGs.

 

[Ulrox]

Well here's one difference: Divinity Fallen Heroes is still a thing also.

There's quite a lot of differences. Larian remains independent as far as I know. Herve Caen is not sven vincke, larian has not been taken over by ea. Just because you've recognised that there is a trend, where success often causes the fall of great developers, doesn't necessarily mean that it is 'destiny' for it to happen.

Here's a statement - :"A big successful developer, will always fall due to greed" True or false? If it is caused by greed, which it probably is in most cases, then all it would take for it not to happen, would be a none greedy developer/publisher, and I do believe we have that in Larian. Some people can withstand the temptation of greed.

 

[Infinitron]

Infinitron I don't think I catch your meaning - how is a 3rd party making a (presumably) better version of the parent studio's IP a key difference from what I posted? That Larian dreck is resulting in promising-looking spin offs?

Yeah, that's cool. I'm all for good games. I don't see how it relates to my quoted post tho.

edit: just saw Kyl Von Kull 's post. That's a good point, except they (Larian) aren't the ones making it. But it keeps the brand in people's mind, that's for sure.

Well it's co-developed by Larian.

I think we'd all have been happier gamers if BioWare had kept on co-developing isometric D&D games throughout the 2000s alongside third party studios (actually the old Neverwinter Nights premium modules can be seen as a failed attempt at doing this)

 

[John Keel]

Well here's one difference: Divinity Fallen Heroes is still a thing also.

There's quite a lot of differences. Larian remains independent as far as I know. Herve Caen is not sven vincke, larian has not been taken over by ea. Just because you've recognised that there is a trend, where success often causes the fall of great developers, doesn't necessarily mean that it is 'destiny' for it to happen.

Here's a statement - :"A big successful developer, will always fall due to greed" True or false? If it is caused by greed, which it probably is in most cases, then all it would take for it not to happen, would be a none greedy developer/publisher, and I do believe we have that in Larian. Some people can withstand the temptation of greed.

Then why the fuck is Stadia involved in any of this ?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Well i don't understand what you people are complaining about.
At least Larian would attempt to make bg as good as it deserves of course is a big bet for them. This game could turn out amazing or blown up the entire studio.
But in the end larian was also the one that had the balls to make a isometric turn based rpg while the market was saying; Pfff that's a thing for who suffer from nostalgia.

And they been successfull at that.

Maybe they should had given the license to cd projekt red i am sure they would be happy to turn a game based on a pen and paper in a super immersive first person shooters with swords and magic and cinematics don't forget the cinematics.