Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Space Satan]

I am actually rather sad about BG3 release for a wrong reason.
The standart Larian set means we won't see a decent RPG for a long time, as other studios will reassess their standing and developement due to inevitable comparison with BG3.
There is also risk of devolving into a Paradox state - where only they develop Grand Strategies that sell in sufficient numbers and others simply cannot enter the competition due to huge gap in experience and resources available.

If Larian will "monopolize" RPG genre, that could result and magnificent RPGs of similar quality in cherished settings, like Waterdeep or Nevewinter Nights, Eye of the Beholder even or Menzoberranzan (marketed as a porn product of course) but with risks of monopoly and lack of competition corrupting them.
In case of RPG releases we have maybe Rogue Trader upcoming, and it is not a "heavy RPG", more like a tactical combat with RPG elements and dialogues. Other than that - Dreadwolf is being held for years on life support and BG3 release is cutting wires one by one.

 

[Mojobeard]

Is "Sturdy" not coded properly? It seemed like I needed to roll over 10 damage with just the weapon, instead of the total damage (str and magical bonus at least) being counted towards it.
GWF, greatsword, and a +5 damage modifier should be doing damage pretty regularly against DR 10.

Its fucked. Luckily, so far I only see it on barriers that I could blow up, and a boss fight where environmental interactions carry.

Underdark had certain enemies that I had trouble with because of it, luckily magic did the trick on a reload. I was just extremely confused why my two melees with their 18 strength and two-handed magic weapons didn't even do chip damage.

 

[Latro]

For the time being, only local subhuman filth, like poles, are compaining about game's "wokeness"

There are tranny cocks on character creation and all the male companions in the game hit on the player regardless of sex.

I realize that there isn't a lot of modern woke messaging forced into the main quest, but woke is definitely in the game and you don't need any lists to confirm it.

Larian itself stated that vast majority of players create normal chars, warriors, wizards, priests, with human, elf or dwarf models. Listing some char creation shit as a sign of "catering to wokeness" is a staple SJW behaviour, where they dogpiled a guy with hot girls on his shirt, completely ignoring the fact that he and his team managed to land a probe on a moving comet.

Nice try

 

[Alienman]

Wonder how many ways chapter 2 can turn out. I wished I survived my failed attempt at:

Spoiler

At the inn when attacked by the flying dude with the demons. The first time I played it they got away with the priest and the whole area turned into the night of the living dead. I didn't survive that, so I never got to see the narrative play out, unfortunately. Jaheira died too. I'm really curious how the story would continue with losing the good faction in one blow like that. Anyway, that is one thing I like about the game, the story seems to be filled with alternative paths, and I like how sidequests integrate with the main quest. Even if it feels a bit much at times, like how everyone is super special, and all companions fit snuggly into the narrative so they can affect it somehow. A bit beyond a coincidence at this point.

 

[Johnny Biggums]

Based on a lot of steam posts I've seen I'm hopeful that the playersexual companions and general horny level will be viewed in the medium to long term as one of bg3's bigger flaws. This is the most thorough implementation of nymphomaniac playersexuality I've ever seen and consequently the best (self-) refutation of it as a premise - hoping other crpg developers reach the right conclusions in spite of the very good sales.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

felipepepe's reflections:

I remember that "turn based, but we promise its good!!" discourse. And I remember even then arguing that turn based on a grid is best, and its a shame devs continue to insist on real time for tactical games.

X-COM did revitalize turn based games in general in the West. It made them viable again. It's a game with AAA production values, and it made people completely forget about The Bureau. Just think of when was the last time you even thought about that game. Little by little, turn based games seemed viable again. The fact that there's a number of them out there and there's going to be more in the future is a testament to this.

 

[Abu Antar]

 

[Incognito]

Can you roleplay as an anti-gay crusader? Would be fun to kill the homo companions and characters you see.

My paladin bashed Astarion's skull in right when we met. I was afraid to break the Oath if I didn't.

 

[Agame]

Based on a lot of steam posts I've seen I'm hopeful that the playersexual companions and general horny level will be viewed in the medium to long term as one of bg3's bigger flaws. This is the most thorough implementation of nymphomaniac playersexuality I've ever seen and consequently the best (self-) refutation of it as a premise - hoping other crpg developers reach the right conclusions in spite of the very good sales.

I would hope so to, but given the direction of Western civilisation rapidly sliding into the abyss it will likely go the opposite way, and we will see even more turbo charged pozz and rank faggotry. Don't forget for every post someone makes complaining about this shit there is an army of pearl clutchers who will pile onto them screeching about tolerance and bigotry and muh racisms.

 

[Grauken]

Based on a lot of steam posts I've seen I'm hopeful that the playersexual companions and general horny level will be viewed in the medium to long term as one of bg3's bigger flaws. This is the most thorough implementation of nymphomaniac playersexuality I've ever seen and consequently the best (self-) refutation of it as a premise - hoping other crpg developers reach the right conclusions in spite of the very good sales.

I would hope so to, but given the direction of Western civilisation rapidly sliding into the abyss it will likely go the opposite way, and we will see even more turbo charged pozz and rank faggotry. Don't forget for every post someone makes complaining about this shit there is an army of pearl clutchers who will pile onto them screeching about tolerance and bigotry and muh racisms.

Seems like you do a lot of pearl clutching yourself

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Larian itself stated that vast majority of players create normal chars

They didn't simply 'state' it. They criticized their fanbase for it.

Listing some char creation shit as a sign of "catering to wokeness" is a staple SJW behaviour

Tranny cock selection is woke content. Fuck off with that horseshoe theory bullshit.

You're in denial, and not even denying effectively or believably.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

felipepepe's reflections:

People and Gamers (not-people) really enjoy to put a every once in while a new ''Messiah'' , one game or studio that PROVES that certain type of games is not dead or going to change gaming.. It was Bioware, then CDPR, then Fromsoftware and now Larian. People say how True RPGs were dead and BG3 brought them back, despite having a literaly revival since, idk 2014..

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Has anyone found a magical HEAVY armor in Act 1? All I've encountered is the one worn by the githyanki in the monestary.

I've seen some early in Act II vendors. In Act I, I didn't see any. And apparently I managed to skip a whole zone, the monastery in question, which I am now revisiting.

Since the forge is in Act 1, despite feeling like Act 2, there's a ton of heavy armor. More in Act 2 though.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I guess in the end all you need to revive something is High Budget Cinematics and not literaly brain dead mechanics.

 

[Tyranicon]

If Larian will "monopolize" RPG genre

I really doubt that. And if other AAA/AA devs get cowed by Larian's giant vampire dick budget, then they're pathetic. Like those twitter bots who were trying to "set expectations" by basically saying that Larian killed their careers.

Why are you in the dev space if you have no ambition, or don't want to make art? If you're here just to make a product™ then fuck off 'cause we already got enough of those and don't need more.

 

[MerchantKing]

I wasn't planning on trying BG3 out so soon, but now even I am genuinely curious.

Also LOL if you thought I would ever give Larian even a nickel for their coomer games.

Make sure to run the game from the exe in the bin folder to bypass the Larian launcher.

 

[ColonelMace]

You can't monopolise this genre. It's too tentacular and open to do so.
Bethesda never monopolised anything despite Skyrim's cult classic status that still lingers to this day. You still had several names that rose in the wake (CDProjekt, Arkane mainly) and that's only talking about their specific subgenre of RPGs.

BGIII kind of concludes the "crpg renaissance" story arc though. Long live again the king.

 

[Infinitron]

In case of RPG releases we have maybe Rogue Trader upcoming, and it is not a "heavy RPG", more like a tactical combat with RPG elements and dialogues.

How so? I don't think most people would agree with this. What's your definition of "heavy RPG"?

 

[Seethe]

Based on a lot of steam posts I've seen I'm hopeful that the playersexual companions and general horny level will be viewed in the medium to long term as one of bg3's bigger flaws. This is the most thorough implementation of nymphomaniac playersexuality I've ever seen and consequently the best (self-) refutation of it as a premise - hoping other crpg developers reach the right conclusions in spite of the very good sales.

I have clocked 35+ hours into the game. As of today, only Lae'zel asked me for non-romantic sex, and Wyll told me about his dance which I suspect leads to romance. I told him I don't really care about making him dance. Is everyone else a faggot? Or maybe they're illiterate and keep selecting obvious flirting lines? Is the game bugged? Do people spam long rest and get constant camp events because they're retards and the story advances as a result? It's still a mystery for me as it is, but after 35 hours that's the only sexually suggestive encounter I've experienced other than the bugbear + ogre barn thing. No sex has even happened. I've cleared the goblin camp, basically explored the entire map. I likely have only 5% left of Act 1 as I'm wrapping up the last quest in the Underdark.

My theory is that people are retards obsessed with spamming long rests and Larian made it so that something happens every time you long rest.

I guess in the end all you need to revive something is High Budget Cinematics and not literaly brain dead mechanics.

This is my first experience with 5th edition as I'm not familiar with anything released after 3.5 and Pathfinder. It is literally brain dead. I like the different throw/push/jump interactions, but 90% of the spells are simply worthless because "concentration" exists as a concept. It feels like modern World of Warcraft. Extremely streamlined for cattle with no attention span.

 

[Shin]

In case of RPG releases we have maybe Rogue Trader upcoming, and it is not a "heavy RPG", more like a tactical combat with RPG elements and dialogues.

How so? I don't think most people would agree with this. What's your definition of "heavy RPG"?

 

[Modron]

The first, it's always because i am nice, not because i went out of my way to show interest.
In case's gale i practically ignored him which is what made it particularly surprising when the stargazing and dreaded "and something more" line happened.

Sad to see them perpetuate that Biowarian approach of needing a baseball bat to fend off the bull queers.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

You can't monopolise this genre. It's too tentacular and open to do so.

Bethesda monopolized a niche. One with wide appeal that there isn't much competition for, since open-world games are expensive to make.

Larian is unlikely to monopolize anything given their long development cycle, but their ideas could certainly shift some things.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Lmao, i can't make myself play this, even just to check this shit out.

Imma try to see if i can get past character cration later tonight just because i want to see how 5E actually works. Last DnD game i've played was NWN2 i'm genuinely curious to see what they did since then.

If your intention is to examine "D&D 5th edition" rules as applied to a CRPG, try Solasta instead, since it's very much a tactical RPG (more focused on combat than BG3), allows the player to generate four customized party members rather than relying on three pre-generated companions, and has comparatively little in the way of cutscenes or dialogue.

 

[Raghar]

I am actually rather sad about BG3 release for a wrong reason.
The standart Larian set means we won't see a decent RPG for a long time, as other studios will reassess their standing and developement due to inevitable comparison with BG3.
There is also risk of devolving into a Paradox state - where only they develop Grand Strategies that sell in sufficient numbers and others simply cannot enter the competition due to huge gap in experience and resources available.

If Larian will "monopolize" RPG genre, that could result and magnificent RPGs of similar quality in cherished settings, like Waterdeep or Nevewinter Nights, Eye of the Beholder even or Menzoberranzan (marketed as a porn product of course) but with risks of monopoly and lack of competition corrupting them.
In case of RPG releases we have maybe Rogue Trader upcoming, and it is not a "heavy RPG", more like a tactical combat with RPG elements and dialogues. Other than that - Dreadwolf is being held for years on life support and BG3 release is cutting wires one by one.

Frankly if they wanted to make a strategy they could hire me decade ago, and they would have few decent games. It's not fucking hard to make strategy, even world conquest complex grand stragegy. They just need to implement square grid based world map. Solve simulation of logistic (which HoI3 wasn't able to do), and do few other stuff. But as long as they are not resulting in scripting, or using some premade engine, a team of 10 people should get game going in 1.5-3 years. And if they have a clue how to play their own game, they would even develop AI.

Simple AI models still works, even if players might be too dumb to fall for feints.

 

[Johnny Biggums]

Based on a lot of steam posts I've seen I'm hopeful that the playersexual companions and general horny level will be viewed in the medium to long term as one of bg3's bigger flaws. This is the most thorough implementation of nymphomaniac playersexuality I've ever seen and consequently the best (self-) refutation of it as a premise - hoping other crpg developers reach the right conclusions in spite of the very good sales.

I have clocked 35+ hours into the game. As of today, only Lae'zel asked me for non-romantic sex, and Wyll told me about his dance which I suspect leads to romance. I told him I don't really care about making him dance. Is everyone else a faggot? Or maybe they're illiterate and keep selecting obvious flirting lines? Is the game bugged? Do people spam long rest and get constant camp events because they're retards and the story advances as a result? It's still a mystery for me as it is, but after 35 hours that's the only sexually suggestive encounter I've experienced other than the bugbear + ogre barn thing. No sex has even happened. I've cleared the goblin camp, basically explored the entire map. I likely have only 5% left of Act 1 as I'm wrapping up the last quest in the Underdark.

My theory is that people are retards obsessed with spamming long rests and Larian made it so that something happens every time you long rest.

With the exception of Shadowheart the companions (the ones I haven't killed, I mean) all make nonstop passes at the mc, and of course their playersexuality is common knowledge. Maybe you're not resting, not talking to them, or crit failing irl insight checks.