Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[NecroLord]

DA:O wasn't poorly written and its world was little more interesting than the shit that is FR. It may have been cliche, boring, predictable...whatever, but cringe like all Larian games it was not. Next two games shat on all the good parts for sure, but if anything did hold up in DA:O it was the writing.

Morrigan is a Sex Goddess compared to Shadowheart.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Well, we all know that Fedora Master is an idiot, but I wonder if he didnt stumble on truth by mere chance: in 10 years, will Baldur's Gate 3 be considered gud, or kinda like Dragon Ass: Origins of 2023, where everyone brown-nosed it at the time, but now it looks like utter shit.

It's going to go down the DA:O route when everyone realizes how poorly written it is. But the gameplay will hold up as as at least decent enough whereas Bioware games have never been that way.

Is not poorly written at all. Has some problems with pacing but is to be expected due to the branching stuff the game has. I mean people in codex praise games that are indeed terrible narration: ELEX,SOLASTA and insert an sperg codex title here. Also Morrigan was always insufferable this is why mod like this exist:

 

[Desiderius]

I swear, having Wyll in the party in Act 3... this is The Challenge to your OOC anti-racism beliefs

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Lol, Wyll’s whiter than Ned Flanders. These writers should be required to watch at least two full seasons of Soul Train and 3 Shaft movies before writing black characters.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Well, we all know that Fedora Master is an idiot, but I wonder if he didnt stumble on truth by mere chance: in 10 years, will Baldur's Gate 3 be considered gud, or kinda like Dragon Ass: Origins of 2023, where everyone brown-nosed it at the time, but now it looks like utter shit.

So you think gaming will get significantly better in the next ten years? Bless your heart sweet summer child ...

Also where the fuck is Dragon Age Origin ever to be considered "utter dogshit"? It's widely considered as a genre classic and one of Bioware's last peak performances. Delusional talk and borderline retarded hyperbole.

 

[NecroLord]

Well, we all know that Fedora Master is an idiot, but I wonder if he didnt stumble on truth by mere chance: in 10 years, will Baldur's Gate 3 be considered gud, or kinda like Dragon Ass: Origins of 2023, where everyone brown-nosed it at the time, but now it looks like utter shit.

It's going to go down the DA:O route when everyone realizes how poorly written it is. But the gameplay will hold up as as at least decent enough whereas Bioware games have never been that way.

Is not poorly written at all. Has some problems with pacing but is to be expected due to the branching stuff the game has. I mean people in codex praise games that are indeed terrible narration: ELEX,SOLASTA and insert an sperg codex title here. Also Morrigan was always insufferable this is why mod like this exist:

Morrigan ass slap mod.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Nobody will look back on Original Sin 3 and want to play it again because of the combat, just like the last two. Once you finish them it's like a burden was lifted, you slogged through the patented drag of the combat that is everything after the half point of their games and would never want to do it again.

Cope and seethe you retarded euthanasia candidate. Well, or don't. You deserve to be miserable.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Lol, Wyll’s whiter than Ned Flanders. These writers should be required to watch at least two full seasons of Soul Train and 3 Shaft movies before writing black characters.

That's the problem. People whose life experience amounts to years of phubbing Twitter are now writing games and tv shows.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Lol, Wyll’s whiter than Ned Flanders. These writers should be required to watch at least two full seasons of Soul Train and 3 Shaft movies before writing black characters.

That's the problem. People whose life experience amounts to years of phubbing Twitter are now writing games and tv shows.

We're not victims of bad writing. We are survivors.

 

[MerchantKing]

Well, we all know that Fedora Master is an idiot, but I wonder if he didnt stumble on truth by mere chance: in 10 years, will Baldur's Gate 3 be considered gud, or kinda like Dragon Ass: Origins of 2023, where everyone brown-nosed it at the time, but now it looks like utter shit.

It's going to go down the DA:O route when everyone realizes how poorly written it is. But the gameplay will hold up as as at least decent enough whereas Bioware games have never been that way.

Is not poorly written at all. Has some problems with pacing but is to be expected due to the branching stuff the game has. I mean people in codex praise games that are indeed terrible narration: ELEX,SOLASTA and insert an sperg codex title here. Also Morrigan was always insufferable this is why mod like this exist:

Dragon Age has mediocre writing like every Bioware game. The reason Bioware is known is because they made a few D&D games and then released KOTOR when the prequels and was hyped up by magazines. Those games were all mediocre at best, with BG1+2 having decent enough gameplay given that it was just a company that's never developed anything. NWN's gameplay is less impressive and you can see the prototype for KOTOR. The writing is far from stellar, especially with the OC for NWN being particularly bad. KOTOR itself is generally poorly written with it's only redeeming quality being a Star Wars game when Star Wars was big.

Ass Effect was always shit, and every game in the series is shit. DA:O has mediocre writing, has bland gameplay, and spends way too much time with the cinematic cutscene dialogue like all their games after KOTOR.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Act 3 is full of bugs and feels half finished. Not going to bother finishing my run, will wait for the inevitable enhanced edition.

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

 

[AwesomeButton]

Amazing. In the whole Lower City map there is no non-quest related temple, added just for flavor. My paladin needs to pray and counsel with priests on what path to take in the fight against the brain. And there is no temple you can just enter. Fuck.

 

[GloomFrost]

Despite its grand scale and the amount of content and reactivity the actual Baldurs Gate (the city) is a lot smaller then the one in the first BG. And don't even get me started on Atkathla. It mopes the floor with an entire third act of BG 3. And the best thing is that BG 3 been in EA longer then it took to develop an entire BG 2.

 

[fantadomat]

I swear, having Wyll in the party in Act 3... this is The Challenge to your OOC anti-racism beliefs

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Ohhh i intend on killing his dad and the tyrant faggot at his coronation lol.

 

[Tyranicon]

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

I don't even get why they did it here. The whole reason to frontload the content is to scam customers and journos.

Instead, the first two acts of the game are like 30 hours long, probably closer to 80 if you're a completionist. That's enough for an entire game.

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

 

[Alienman]

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

I don't know, man. Having it end on a cliffhanger would probably make me more pissed off than a poor Act 3.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Act 3 is full of bugs and feels half finished. Not going to bother finishing my run, will wait for the inevitable enhanced edition.

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

Then what does it say that I hate the start of every Larian game post-Divine Divinity?

Also where the fuck is Dragon Age Origin ever to be considered "utter dogshit"? It's widely considered as a genre classic and one of Bioware's last peak performances. Delusional talk and borderline retarded hyperbole.

By anyone with positive IQ? Genre classic, hahahaha.

 

[MerchantKing]

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

I don't even get why they did it here. The whole reason to frontload the content is to scam customers and journos.

Instead, the first two acts of the game are like 30 hours long, probably closer to 80 if you're a completionist. That's enough for an entire game.

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

They could've saved a shitload of money if they didn't do the mocap and voice acting and spent the money on some good writers/designers instead. Would've been much better that way too.

 

[Grauken]

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

I don't even get why they did it here. The whole reason to frontload the content is to scam customers and journos.

Instead, the first two acts of the game are like 30 hours long, probably closer to 80 if you're a completionist. That's enough for an entire game.

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

They could've saved a shitload of money if they didn't do the mocap and voice acting and spent the money on some good writers/designers instead. Would've been much better that way too.

Well, given their success I doubt they give a crap about stupid advice like that

 

[copebot]

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

I don't even get why they did it here. The whole reason to frontload the content is to scam customers and journos.

Instead, the first two acts of the game are like 30 hours long, probably closer to 80 if you're a completionist. That's enough for an entire game.

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

They could've saved a shitload of money if they didn't do the mocap and voice acting and spent the money on some good writers/designers instead. Would've been much better that way too.

Doesn't really seem like they could have possibly done that much motion capture. The animations are mostly 2000s era blank standing around and dead-eyed swaying. There is tons of VA, but by using mostly Brits, they get to save a lot of money. No name actors are cheap, mocap is an ancient technology at this point, but programmers and other professionals are expensive.

 

[Tyranicon]

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

I don't know, man. Having it end on a cliffhanger would probably make me more pissed off than a poor Act 3.

Cliffhangers are a time-honored practice to milk your customers for more money. It's a fair trade, consumers pay money for additional content because they are invested.

It's the principle on which the whole concept of having a series is based on.

Of course, if you fuck it up, people will roast you, which is part of the unwritten agreement too.

Look at the Halo 2 cliffhanger. FINISH THE FIGHT was practically burned into my brain.

 

[MerchantKing]

It's the same fucking story every game Larian releases, front load the content and then leave the last third of the game an afterthought

I don't even get why they did it here. The whole reason to frontload the content is to scam customers and journos.

Instead, the first two acts of the game are like 30 hours long, probably closer to 80 if you're a completionist. That's enough for an entire game.

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

They could've saved a shitload of money if they didn't do the mocap and voice acting and spent the money on some good writers/designers instead. Would've been much better that way too.

Well, given their success I doubt they give a crap about stupid advice like that

And that's why modern games are shit. Too much time spent on cinematics and not enough time spent on gameplay.

 

[Grauken]

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

I don't know, man. Having it end on a cliffhanger would probably make me more pissed off than a poor Act 3.

Cliffhangers are a time-honored practice to milk your customers for more money. It's a fair trade, consumers pay money for additional content because they are invested.

It's the principle on which the whole concept of having a series is based on.

Of course, if you fuck it up, people will roast you, which is part of the unwritten agreement too.

Look at the Halo 2 cliffhanger. FINISH THE FIGHT was practically burned into my brain.

Cliffhangers in gaming have always been a terrible idea with many cliffhangers never resolved and people hating the companies forever. I never buy games with cliffhangers and this kind of information will come out before you release the game

 

[Grauken]

And that's why modern games are shit. Too much time spent on cinematics and not enough time spent on gameplay.

True for some games, BG3 though has a massive amount of gameplay so your argument is kinda toothless here

 

[Tyranicon]

They could have cut the game in half, ended on a cliffhanger, and have a super polished game.

I don't know, man. Having it end on a cliffhanger would probably make me more pissed off than a poor Act 3.

Cliffhangers are a time-honored practice to milk your customers for more money. It's a fair trade, consumers pay money for additional content because they are invested.

It's the principle on which the whole concept of having a series is based on.

Of course, if you fuck it up, people will roast you, which is part of the unwritten agreement too.

Look at the Halo 2 cliffhanger. FINISH THE FIGHT was practically burned into my brain.

Cliffhangers in gaming have always been a terrible idea with many cliffhangers never resolved and people hating the companies forever. I never buy games with cliffhangers and this kind of information will come out before you release the game

Yeah, hence the roasting part. You actually have to deliver on the cliffhanger to be capable of using it. That's the agreement.

Edit: Also cliffhangers are unavoidable. They're part of the story structure. If you have a series with 5 chronological installments, the fourth will always be a cliffhanger.