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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

Strange Fellow

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
There's a time limit to the druid grove and the poisoned gnome lady in the myconid colony, to name two examples off the top of my head.

Is that the case? I pretty much resolved the druid cove situation just minutes before headint to Mountain pass. How often do you have to rest here to make it fail?
Well, we got a cutscene of the druids rushing to seal the grove pretty much out of nowhere. I assumed the time limit started either when examining the druid circle or getting involved with the refugee situation. It could have been some weird quest trigger that fired out of time, I suppose.
 

Eisenheinrich

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They made Viconia ugly as sin in this game, along with her story. I like the game overall, but bringing Viconia back just to make her look bad is lame, ngl. Of all the things Larian has done, this is the worst imo.
She whas always ugly

afbeelding.png

That's not ugly, the portrait is showing her evil.

This was back in the day when characters and their portraits were designed to rapresent a particular personality.
BG1 portrait of Viconia is shit not because she is portrayed as ugly & evil, but because she doesn't look like a drow at all.
Looks like a failed ai job, if it wasn't 25 years old.
Most BG portraits are terrible. They're sloppy edits of developer photos/their wives and whatnot.

I also never got the high praise for BG2 portraits. They are "ok". Everyone looks like a late 90s pop stars for the most part. Totally serviceable and not distracting from anything, but IWD shits all over BG-series when it comes to portrait art.
 
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Lagole Gon

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"93% of the players began their journey with a custom character, which included the Dark Urge, and spent 88 years crafting their Tavs in Character Creation. The other side of the coin is that 7% of the players started the game as one of the Origin Characters."
I will never understand why do they bother with this weird feature. It causes multiple headaches from writing perspective.
 

Eisenheinrich

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Oh, I think the burning inn is also somewhat timed, if you wait too long once you reach the inn, the guy inside dies

Druid grove is sealed off when you accidentally enter the Mountain Pass area.

There's a bugbear assassin atop of the Druid Grove entrance who will kill that Tiefling woman if you don't go up there immediately after the first battle at the gates.

In the Druid Grove, by the northern cliffs shore, the harpies will kill the boy if you don't go there early on.

There's a secret passageway under the druid grove where a prone gnome is examined by goblins. He will eventually dies.
 
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Parabalus

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"93% of the players began their journey with a custom character, which included the Dark Urge, and spent 88 years crafting their Tavs in Character Creation. The other side of the coin is that 7% of the players started the game as one of the Origin Characters."
I will never understand why do they bother with this weird feature. It causes multiple headaches from writing perspective.
Since they are multiplayer focused, I doubt it adds much in the way of headaches.
 

Grauken

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Oh, I think the burning inn is also somewhat timed, if you wait too long once you reach the inn, the guy inside dies


There's a bugbear assassin atop of the Druid Grove entrance who will kill that Tiefling woman if you don't go up there immediately after the first battle at the gates.

In the Druid Grove, by the northern cliffs shore, the harpies will kill the boy if you don't go there early on.

There's a secret passageway under the druid grove where a prone gnome is examined by goblins. He will eventually die.
Sounds like I was wrong, the game does somewhat teach you about timing, I just didn't realize until the Nere situation
 

volklore

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"93% of the players began their journey with a custom character, which included the Dark Urge, and spent 88 years crafting their Tavs in Character Creation. The other side of the coin is that 7% of the players started the game as one of the Origin Characters."
I will never understand why do they bother with this weird feature. It causes multiple headaches from writing perspective.
It had its place in DoS2 which wasn't really a storyfag game at all nor was it marketted a such. But it's more egregious here where they themselves marketted on the storyfag/bioware dating sim aspect of the game. They should have expected that this would drive most players to play a fully custom character.
 

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"93% of the players began their journey with a custom character, which included the Dark Urge, and spent 88 years crafting their Tavs in Character Creation. The other side of the coin is that 7% of the players started the game as one of the Origin Characters."
I will never understand why do they bother with this weird feature. It causes multiple headaches from writing perspective.
Since they are multiplayer focused, I doubt it adds much in the way of headaches.
Don't overestimate how focused they are on multiplayer. By far the larger percentage of players play single player, and they know that.
 

Eisenheinrich

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Oh, I think the burning inn is also somewhat timed, if you wait too long once you reach the inn, the guy inside dies


There's a bugbear assassin atop of the Druid Grove entrance who will kill that Tiefling woman if you don't go up there immediately after the first battle at the gates.

In the Druid Grove, by the northern cliffs shore, the harpies will kill the boy if you don't go there early on.

There's a secret passageway under the druid grove where a prone gnome is examined by goblins. He will eventually die.
Sounds like I was wrong, the game does somewhat teach you about timing, I just didn't realize until the Nere situation

Sorry, my bad. Grove is not on a timer, it gets sealed of if you enter Mountain Pass area.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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Is the criminal system broken in act 3? You have to purposely roleplay to not break the economy.

Invisibility -> Pickpocket merchant.

while in the pickpocket UI Invisibility runs out / fail, Merchant goes running out of the shop screaming "THIEF!"

Okay, Thank you for giving me a great opportunity to rummage through all of your shelves.

30 seconds later Merchant comes back cheerful as can be, ready to buy back all the items I just took from his shelf, apparently with short term memory problems.

Rinse and repeat with all the shops.
Ha! Sounds like what I did in arcanum.
 

Sunri

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They made Viconia ugly as sin in this game, along with her story. I like the game overall, but bringing Viconia back just to make her look bad is lame, ngl. Of all the things Larian has done, this is the worst imo.
She whas always ugly

afbeelding.png

That's not ugly, the portrait is showing her evil.

This was back in the day when characters and their portraits were designed to rapresent a particular personality.
BG1 portrait of Viconia is shit not because she is portrayed as ugly & evil, but because she doesn't look like a drow at all.
Looks like a failed ai job, if it wasn't 25 years old.
There is nothing ugly about that portrait, she looks very cute, much better than her bg 2 porn traced shit on the other hand her mtg art...
en_S8pSM61nNL.png
 

Parabalus

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"93% of the players began their journey with a custom character, which included the Dark Urge, and spent 88 years crafting their Tavs in Character Creation. The other side of the coin is that 7% of the players started the game as one of the Origin Characters."
I will never understand why do they bother with this weird feature. It causes multiple headaches from writing perspective.
Since they are multiplayer focused, I doubt it adds much in the way of headaches.
Don't overestimate how focused they are on multiplayer. By far the larger percentage of players play single player, and they know that.
To enable multiplayer they have to do most of the work for enabling origins, so it gets added 'for free'.
 

Fedora Master

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you guys still playing this?
Some posters have even reached Moonlight Towers now! 2 more months and everyone will have reached Act 3 and faced the reality of the shit writing.
What did you find particularly shitty? Apart from the tentacle porn.
The writing falls off a cliff at the end of Act 2 when the other chosen are introduced and only gets worse and worse. Gortash and Orin are non-entities, the Emperor is completely retarded as a concept and Act 3 also happens to go full globohomo with its other NPCs.
 

VerSacrum

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Oh, I think the burning inn is also somewhat timed, if you wait too long once you reach the inn, the guy inside dies


There's a bugbear assassin atop of the Druid Grove entrance who will kill that Tiefling woman if you don't go up there immediately after the first battle at the gates.

In the Druid Grove, by the northern cliffs shore, the harpies will kill the boy if you don't go there early on.

There's a secret passageway under the druid grove where a prone gnome is examined by goblins. He will eventually die.
Sounds like I was wrong, the game does somewhat teach you about timing, I just didn't realize until the Nere situation
Nah you were right. Up to that point the game teaches you that quests will fail if you leave the area or advance quests, even gives you a warning before doing so. Nere sort of warns you that it's urgent if you rest too much in Grymforge though, but I still failed it (didn't really give a damn about the whole situation there so I didn't reload).

And no idea if my game was bugged out or something but I did the harpy fight at the end of Act 1 (before killing everyone in the Brit camp) and the kid was still there.
 

whydoibother

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40% don't have the "complete 4 long rests" achievement
i almost reached lvl 6 with 1 long rest before deleting game. 4 is probably enough to finish all game.
I finished the game with 1 character on tactician without any rests and without drinking potions.
Now that we've done the dick fencing, lets admit that most players will rest 4 times very early into the game. Especially since your characters straight up start complaining how tired, and exhausted they are. Especially since recruiting a companion while your party is full gives you a reason to go to camp. Especially since some quest seemingly tell you to rest, and since you figure out character development and interactions happens during rest.
Therefore the 4 rests achievement is a good metric.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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So by endgame it goes down the toilet? That wouldn’t be the first game to do that and certainly not the last. On the positive side, it will probably get more patches/fixes and possibly DLC to address the issues.

So NO STRONG FINISH?
 

La vie sexuelle

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They made Viconia ugly as sin in this game, along with her story. I like the game overall, but bringing Viconia back just to make her look bad is lame, ngl. Of all the things Larian has done, this is the worst imo.
She whas always ugly

afbeelding.png

That's not ugly, the portrait is showing her evil.

This was back in the day when characters and their portraits were designed to rapresent a particular personality.
BG1 portrait of Viconia is shit not because she is portrayed as ugly & evil, but because she doesn't look like a drow at all.
Looks like a failed ai job, if it wasn't 25 years old.
There is nothing ugly about that portrait, she looks very cute, much better than her bg 2 porn traced shit on the other hand her mtg art...
en_S8pSM61nNL.png

I wonder how WotWC allowed Larian to have so much sex and boobs in their game (and panty jokes) in the first place.
 

Eisenheinrich

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So by endgame it goes down the toilet? That wouldn’t be the first game to do that and certainly not the last. On the positive side, it will probably get more patches/fixes and possibly DLC to address the issues.

So NO STRONG FINISH?

End of the game is probably the one flaw everyone agrees on.
 

Swen

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They made Viconia ugly as sin in this game, along with her story. I like the game overall, but bringing Viconia back just to make her look bad is lame, ngl. Of all the things Larian has done, this is the worst imo.
She whas always ugly

afbeelding.png

That's not ugly, the portrait is showing her evil.

This was back in the day when characters and their portraits were designed to rapresent a particular personality.
BG1 portrait of Viconia is shit not because she is portrayed as ugly & evil, but because she doesn't look like a drow at all.
Looks like a failed ai job, if it wasn't 25 years old.
There is nothing ugly about that portrait, she looks very cute, much better than her bg 2 porn traced shit on the other hand her mtg art...
en_S8pSM61nNL.png

I wonder how WotWC allowed Larian to have so much sex and boobs in their game (and panty jokes) in the first place.
After BG3's success WOTC will go full porn mode.
 

whydoibother

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So by endgame it goes down the toilet?
Act 1: Great
Act 2: Very good
Act 3: Good

So there's definitely a decline, but its over before it gets bad.
Except the main plot, which is bad throughout, but its badness is more obvious at the end. Also I think straight up lore inaccurate? A big deal is made that illithids don't have souls. How can you Speak with the Dead with illithids then? How can the player be a Cleric and have Cleric powers after turning illithid? What portion of the Emperor is in the Astral plane exactly, if he has no soul? What happens to the soul upon transformation, is it lost? Many unanswered questions, and the game literally ends on a 30 second clip of the old god explaining this souls thing, without explaining it.
 

La vie sexuelle

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They made Viconia ugly as sin in this game, along with her story. I like the game overall, but bringing Viconia back just to make her look bad is lame, ngl. Of all the things Larian has done, this is the worst imo.
She whas always ugly

afbeelding.png

That's not ugly, the portrait is showing her evil.

This was back in the day when characters and their portraits were designed to rapresent a particular personality.
BG1 portrait of Viconia is shit not because she is portrayed as ugly & evil, but because she doesn't look like a drow at all.
Looks like a failed ai job, if it wasn't 25 years old.
There is nothing ugly about that portrait, she looks very cute, much better than her bg 2 porn traced shit on the other hand her mtg art...
en_S8pSM61nNL.png

I wonder how WotWC allowed Larian to have so much sex and boobs in their game (and panty jokes) in the first place.
After BG3's success WOTC will go full porn mode.

You're kidding, as usual, but I think it's very possible.

Just as 2014 was the beginning of a new puritanism, 2023 will be the beginning of a new sexual revolution. In a year or two, all these unusual sexualities will be invisible. Not because they're gone, but because they will be covered by a pile of heterosexual porn.
 

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