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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

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I played through most of the first Act of BG3 and got bored. So I decided to try a new game to see what happens differently if you choose different option. Lo and behold, NOTHING changes. You are railroaded into 99% of everything you do no matter how you respond to a situation.
You can skip most of the act if you want. "Railroaded" isn't the term I'd use.

I'd say "funneled" because whenever you get to an area they spent a lot of time on, they funnel you toward experiencing it. You can still avoid it, but you're encouraged to experience it.

This is normal game design. Otherwise the player misses most of the content and then wonders why he paid $60 for such a short game.
I went back and started a new playthough of Dragon Age Origins and I was floored by how much better that old game is compared to this. NPCs were interesting and realistic.
Yeah, no.
 

Grauken

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Grauken is the typical counter-contrarian fag, if Kodex shit on something popular, it's because they're just bunch of stupid chud triggered by the message, despite himself not finishing the game because he deep down acknowledge he got better thing to do with his own leisure time than going trough act 3.
Is it tho? I mean this thread has 616 pages alone.
Sarathiour is the typical contrarian codex fag who fails to imagine that most people outside of the codex actually enjoy the game, and he's retarded enough to think because I stopped posting about the game I stopped playing it. Even Act 3 was good, despite some of its issues. Definitely one of the best RPGs of recent years.
You say that, but you're not actually saying whether or not you finished Act 3.
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I clearly have overestimated codexer intelligence
 
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My main gripe about Baldur's Gate 3 party members is that everyone feels very juvenile. At times it feels more like supervising a bunch of teenagers then leading an actual party of adventurers. At this point there is little difference between actual teens from your typical JRPG and western party members.
 

GaelicVigil

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I went back and started a new playthough of Dragon Age Origins and I was floored by how much better that old game is compared to this. NPCs were interesting and realistic.
Yeah, no.
He meant compared to BG3 where companions want to have gay sex after 1 hour of play.

Yes, the reputation system in DAO was much more interesting and interactive. If I wanted to have sexy time with Morrigan, I knew exaclty how I had to act in situations to gain her approval, not just look at her the wrong way and suddenly she's ready to dry hump my leg.

Also, NPCS in DAO join the party naturally, whereas most of the joinable NPCs in BG3 are standing around 20 feet apart in the first area waiting for you to talk to them.

Most of the NPC companions in BG3 act out of place for the setting and their backstories are insane. Karlach drops F bombs every second and both her and Wyll have these insane demon hunting stories that feel way too big to be realistic. Everything is over-the-top in BG3, clown world. DAO feels more like a George RR Martin setting, more grounded. Humans dominate the world and elves are slaves. Dwarves are almost extinct. Contrast that with BG3 where every damn race is running around together everywhere. That's not even realistic for The Forgotten Realms. Settlements were not that diverse.
 

GaelicVigil

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Music is much better in DAO. The only song I remember from BG3 is:

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Oh and I had forgotten how much more fun and exciting RTP combat was. Battles feel like battles. They're immersive, not the boring chess matches of Larian's game.

Man, I used to hate Bioware RPGs, but compared to Larian RPGs, they seem amazing.
 

Lagole Gon

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Yeah. There is more memorable songs in BG3.

Like that song inside the inn that basically tells the whole main plot and reveals that Balduran is now a purple gay squid and wants you to suck his mantacle.
 
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The problem with races in modern Forgotten Realms (and modern fantasy games in general) isn't that settlement is too diverse but that it's pretty meaningless. Writers want to avoid "stereotyping" so much that races lack any sort of flavor. If you had to read the dialogue lines of various BG characters without seeing how they look like in the game you'd never guess that Shadowheart and Astarion are elves. Giths are the only ones who have any form of distinct culture, and that's probably just because they don't show-up very often outside of this game. Tieflings had some character back when they first started appearing but now they've been completely neutered. There's a ton of Tieflings in the game and all of them are just red humans.
 

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Races have been reduced to mere aesthetics in 5E, yes. The people who make these decisions don't seem to grasp the idea that people who live together will more or less resemble each other, both in culture and appearance. There will always be outliers, of course, but not every orc is going to be a disabled gay bard.
 
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Races have been reduced to mere aesthetics in 5E, yes. The people who make these decisions don't seem to grasp the idea that people who live together will more or less resemble each other, both in culture and appearance. There will always be outliers, of course, but not every orc is going to be a disabled gay bard.
Thank WOTC for that sadly.
 

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Which is a meaningless song ever since they killed off the Daisy idea for this Emperor idiocy.

Btw, the dream where he tries to seduce the player is some of the most unintentionally hilarious writing I've seen in the game.

>shows up without a shirt
>hey babe

And if the player doesn't trust him, he says "would reading my thoughts help?" Which, I guess was meant to be a bluff. But then when you read his thoughts he's like "Yeah, I actually brainwashed and then raped this old bitch for years and I was going to do the same to you, but you screwed it up by being a frigid cunt, so now DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO OR I WILL BRAINWASH YOU AND MAKE YOU, TOOL!"

And then there's nothing after that. No reaction, no talking to the party members and saying "Hey, you know that squid who's been pretending to be our friend? Well..."
 

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Sarathiour is the typical contrarian codex fag who fails to imagine that most people outside of the codex actually enjoy the game, and he's retarded enough to think because I stopped posting about the game I stopped playing it. Even Act 3 was good, despite some of its issues. Definitely one of the best RPGs of recent years.
You say that, but you're not actually saying whether or not you finished Act 3.
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This still isn't saying whether or not you've finished it. :M
 

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What annoys me the most about the Tactician difficulty level is that one long rest consumes 80 units of food. But it's just me because I don't like gathering stuff.
Just ... don't rest that much? I played Tactician too, did not horde, roleplayed, and had like 700 units at the end game.
The game pretty much pushes long rests on you, since a lot of plot and character events happen only during long rest and you can only get one per.
For example, if you don't long rest dark urge will miss out on his invis cape and asstarion won't reveal himself to be a vampire.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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A turn-based cRPG dominating sales. Worst thing ever, guise.
A turned based crpg that is still first and foremost "look at uncanny faces spout shite in cinematic dialogue for fecking hoooours" and also walk around clicking on trash for no reason just like mass effect witcheroos and what not. But yeah, you are onto something and I don't necessarily disagree.
 

Reyvik

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A turned based crpg that is still first and foremost "look at uncanny faces spout shite in cinematic dialogue for fecking hoooours" and also walk around clicking on trash for no reason just like mass effect witcheroos and what not. But yeah, you are onto something and I don't necessarily disagree.
That is too harsh. You can use this silly description for every game. BG2 was pretty much the same in that regard so I don't get your point
 

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