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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

dukeofwoodberry

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This game seems to be for females, and weak men, the kind who dream of something dubbed a muscle mommy. No strong masculine male companions, to scare the said weakling. All except maybe the druid(didn't bother interacting with that one much) act like a flamboyant femboy. Meanwhile you have hypermasculine frog and big angry muscly thiefling to cater to said masochistic betas. The main character body language and facial expressions in most dialogue look like it's about to soil itself, constantly looks like it's surprised and afraid of everything, like a soyboy incarnate.

Since I don't care about playing dressup, and don't care about spending time on character appearance. I just hit random for a couple of minutes as a parade of tumblr rejects strode past, before autogen finally came up with something that didn't make me want to puke.

Reason for those choises in game desing being what they are, clicked into place when I saw that clip from game awards, where Sven stood up to accept the accolades. The Pink haired troll looking female gazing at him lovingly couple of seats over and clapping like a trained seal, seems to be his kid or some high level worker in the company. Exactly the kind of woketard looking person, that would champion all those choises.

Yes, writing is not that great and late game is pretty damn rushed, but I would have suffered through it if I had some companions that I actually liked and a main character who didn't always come off as a spineless beta gimp.

Starting at such a low level, while most characters have backstories of well acomplished adventurers was also utterly ridiculous. A shar priestess chosen for this vital mission, 200 year old vampire spawn, mystras chosen all lvl1-2 mooks. A lvl3 "feared demon slayer" etc.

That "karmic dice" bullshit being on by default and not being mentioned when starting a game, was a garbage move as well. Sure it's probably better for casual trash, but being competent was actually punished.

Just a couple of random thoughts about this game.
I am still confused about this notion of what strong men are supposed to be according to the codex.
Still waiting on an answer to this question:

In Forgotten Realms heterosexuality doesn't exist and everyone is bisexual/pansexual? You must be a faggot to play D&D in this setting right?
 

Lacrymas

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Wheelchair adventurers seem to be trendy now. If I were the DM, I'd make the first enemy they encounter break the wheelchair. That might at least provide some sort of tension, especially when they are trying to lug the cripple around. Or better yet, break the wheelchair deep into the dungeon, good luck with that.
 

Yosharian

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Wheelchair adventurers seem to be trendy now. If I were the DM, I'd make the first enemy they encounter break the wheelchair. That might at least provide some sort of tension, especially when they are trying to lug the cripple around. Or better yet, break the wheelchair deep into the dungeon, good luck with that.
If they were serious about being a crippled PC I would make it some sort of Hodor situation, give them a minion to carry them around all day long. Like Alchemist from DOTA.

If that's not good enough for them they can fuck off, not changing the entire game just to suit their idiotic demands.
 
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To be fair if you let the player use a wheelchair only to try to break it at every opportunity you're being as annoying as the guy constantly trying to make the paladin break his vows, it's just going to look passive aggressive and no one will appreciate the point you're trying to make.
 

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dukeofwoodberry

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So how can only man like modern D&D/play it and not feel like a massive faggot? This has to be one of the most cringe settings I've ever witnessed.

It's a combination of cape shit, pure faggotry, weird/creepy sexual kinks, ect.

This setting is pure dog shit lol
 

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NaturallyCarnivorousSheep

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So how can only man like modern D&D/play it and not feel like a massive faggot? This has to be one of the most cringe settings I've ever witnessed.

It's a combination of cape shit, pure faggotry, weird/creepy sexual kinks, ect.

This setting is pure dog shit lol
Don't care about storyfaggot stuff
So why are you playing it

The combat was fun when I've played through it back in August or September I don't remember.
 

dukeofwoodberry

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So how can only man like modern D&D/play it and not feel like a massive faggot? This has to be one of the most cringe settings I've ever witnessed.

It's a combination of cape shit, pure faggotry, weird/creepy sexual kinks, ect.

This setting is pure dog shit lol
Don't care about storyfaggot stuff
So why are you playing it

The combat was fun when I've played through it back in August or September I don't remember.
I could be wrong but aren't there other games with superior character building and combat? Thought 5e D&D was supposed to be simple so you could get into the role playing (weird sexual fetishes)
 

dukeofwoodberry

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So why are you playing it
How long have you been around gaming fandom?

A lot of people are so autistic and numb they can't perceive anything except numbers going up. That's why you have crowds of nerds not seeing any wokism in Outer Worlds or not minding the degeneracy in BG3.
I don't know anything about gaming Fandom.

I just see a supposed expert in Mebs saying bear fucking, pure faggotry, weird sexual fetishes are a central component of FR D&D. So I'll take her at her word.

So then my question is, how can you play this stuff if you aren't a complete faggot trying to roleplay like an absolute Troon? If people who weren't complete faggots just said, "nah this weird faggotry and sexual kink stuff isn't for me. I'll pass on this." Then we wouldn't get so much of it
 

processdaemon

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Still waiting on an answer to this question:

In Forgotten Realms heterosexuality doesn't exist and everyone is bisexual/pansexual? You must be a faggot to play D&D in this setting right?

As far as I know it's not that absolutely everyone is bisexual, more that it's common enough and accepted enough that being open about it if you are is the default. Greenwood discusses it here and says that while in theory some bigotry in isolated areas could exist that the he believes that the kind of polytheism in the Forgotten Realms and the range of races living in close proximity would lead to fewer cultural restrictions on sex than we have in the real world, which I don't necessarily agree with from a worldbuilding POV but that is his logic.
 

dukeofwoodberry

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Still waiting on an answer to this question:

In Forgotten Realms heterosexuality doesn't exist and everyone is bisexual/pansexual? You must be a faggot to play D&D in this setting right?

As far as I know it's not that absolutely everyone is bisexual, more that it's common enough and accepted enough that being open about it if you are is the default. Greenwood discusses it here and says that while in theory some bigotry in isolated areas could exist that the he believes that the kind of polytheism in the Forgotten Realms and the range of races living in close proximity would lead to fewer cultural restrictions on sex than we have in the real world, which I don't necessarily agree with from a worldbuilding POV but that is his logic.
The FR experts here tell me BG3 is a very faithful representation of the FR setting. So based on the fact every single party member is bisexual/pansexual and the fact there isn't a single dialogue option refusing a sexual advance saying something like "no thanks, I'm straight. Or I'm only interested in women." Seems heterosexuality pretty much doesn't exist or is extremely rare.

So if you're playing tabletop in a group of 5 with your friends. Basically it would be impossible for at least 4 of you to not be faggots. Even 1 out of 5 is very unlikely but beyond that you're breaking the rules and lore of this setting. So anyone playing D&D tabletop with friends, just understand you're RPing as a character who is butt fucking or getting butt fucked by your friends. If you keep playing that shit, that's up to you.
 
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This game seems to be for females, and weak men, the kind who dream of something dubbed a muscle mommy. No strong masculine male companions, to scare the said weakling. All except maybe the druid(didn't bother interacting with that one much) act like a flamboyant femboy. Meanwhile you have hypermasculine frog and big angry muscly thiefling to cater to said masochistic betas. The main character body language and facial expressions in most dialogue look like it's about to soil itself, constantly looks like it's surprised and afraid of everything, like a soyboy incarnate.

Since I don't care about playing dressup, and don't care about spending time on character appearance. I just hit random for a couple of minutes as a parade of tumblr rejects strode past, before autogen finally came up with something that didn't make me want to puke.

Reason for those choises in game desing being what they are, clicked into place when I saw that clip from game awards, where Sven stood up to accept the accolades. The Pink haired troll looking female gazing at him lovingly couple of seats over and clapping like a trained seal, seems to be his kid or some high level worker in the company. Exactly the kind of woketard looking person, that would champion all those choices.

Yes, writing is not that great and late game is pretty damn rushed, but I would have suffered through it if I had some companions that I actually liked and a main character who didn't always come off as a spineless beta gimp.

Starting at such a low level, while most characters have backstories of well acomplished adventurers was also utterly ridiculous. A shar priestess chosen for this vital mission, 200 year old vampire spawn, mystras chosen all lvl1-2 mooks. A lvl3 "feared demon slayer" etc.

That "karmic dice" bullshit being on by default and not being mentioned when starting a game, was a garbage move as well. Sure it's probably better for casual trash, but being competent was actually punished.

Just a couple of random thoughts about this game.
I am still confused about this notion of what strong men are supposed to be according to the codex.
You have this many posts, yet you still treat this collection of people unironically as a hivemind. Way to show yourself to be a simple minded tribal collectivist. As much as people might ham this concept up for the laughs, you can clearly see just by reading pretty much any page of any thread, that this site is populated by individuals, that rarely agree on much of anything.

Instead of such a stupid question, put down your definition first. Maybe that'll encourage others to share theirs.
 

NaturallyCarnivorousSheep

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I could be wrong but aren't there other games with superior character building and combat?
Not that many. Baldurs gate 3 does a lot of work with verticality and displacement(in fact on this point the only game I can think of that used it on comparable scale is "The Dwarves" which was bad for other reasons) and also features something Larian made a norm in their games since the first Original Sin - almost no encounter is just trash.

So yeah you may in fact be wrong, but that's not surprising because until now all your complaints were storyfaggot in nature.
 

dukeofwoodberry

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I could be wrong but aren't there other games with superior character building and combat?
Not that many. Baldurs gate 3 does a lot of work with verticality and displacement(in fact on this point the only game I can think of that used it on comparable scale is "The Dwarves" which was bad for other reasons) and also features something Larian made a norm in their games since the first Original Sin - almost no encounter is just trash.

So yeah you may in fact be wrong, but that's not surprising because until now all your complaints were storyfaggot in nature.
I'm talking about people who play tabletop D&D.

The combat in this game is good at first but is ultimately undone by limitless long rests and broken first turn mechanics involving haste.

There are all these things you can do in combat but they are so drastically inferior to haste and 9 attacks in the first turn or haste and double fireball. Takes all the strategy out of combat
 

Lacrymas

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There a lot of contemporary RPGs out there with better combat. Gloomhaven, Trials of Fire, King Arthur: Knight's Tale, Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, theoretically Solasta because it's more faithful to the tabletop (but it has awful, awful encounters, so so much for that), tentatively PoE1/2 in certain aspects, some people* even say Midnight Suns, probably more that I'm forgetting. That's not even getting into TB tactical games which are RPG-adjacent.

*Grunker
 

Shaki

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There a lot of contemporary RPGs out there with better combat. Gloomhaven, Trials of Fire, King Arthur: Knight's Tale, Dungeon of Naheulbeuk, theoretically Solasta because it's more faithful to the tabletop (but it has awful, awful encounters, so so much for that), tentatively PoE1/2 in certain aspects, some people* even say Midnight Suns, probably more that I'm forgetting. That's not even getting into TB tactical games which are RPG-adjacent.

*Grunker
It'd be hard to find a TB game with worse combat, just because DnD 5E is so fucking limited and boring, and they didn't even introduce the cool shit like flying and walking on walls like Solasta, which maybe could make it remotely interesting. I have to say, as much as I criticized Original Sin games, they had 10x better combat than BG3.
 

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