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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

Yosharian

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but the problem is - level cap
So there is no point grinding exp and killing everything in sight? I'm now lvl 6 and 1/2, still in Act 1. I was thinking combing throught the map again and killing absolutely everything to hit lvl 7.
There's zero point, there is already way too much xp in act 1+2
 

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but the problem is - level cap
So there is no point grinding exp and killing everything in sight? I'm now lvl 6 and 1/2, still in Act 1. I was thinking combing throught the map again and killing absolutely everything to hit lvl 7.
With this approach you'll definitely hit the cap way before finishing act 3 so see for yourself. I wouldn't re-scout everything for sure if I were you.
Well, there IS some very good gear in Act 3, that trumps the stuff previously available.
Not that its necessary to succeed.
Well I meant when you hit the cap, not by entering act 3 itself.
 

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Plonked the goblin bosses, are all boss fights in this game cheesable with high ground and some explosive powder barrels?
 

Yosharian

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Plonked the goblin bosses, are all boss fights in this game cheesable with high ground and some explosive powder barrels?
Are you playing Honour mode or Tactician?

But ye pretty much
Kept on the Honor so Dishonor mode I guess, but yeah once I figured out the tricks combat got pretty easy. Scout ahead, find the high ground, repeat.
Ah well the goblin area is not too challenging for a competent party. There are more challenging bosses later on.

What's your party composition anyway?
 

KeAShizuku

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Man Pathfinder Wrath is so much better than this game it's not even funny.

But I guess production values, voice acting and modern sensibilities are more popular.
 

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Plonked the goblin bosses, are all boss fights in this game cheesable with high ground and some explosive powder barrels?
Are you playing Honour mode or Tactician?

But ye pretty much
Kept on the Honor so Dishonor mode I guess, but yeah once I figured out the tricks combat got pretty easy. Scout ahead, find the high ground, repeat.
Ah well the goblin area is not too challenging for a competent party. There are more challenging bosses later on.

What's your party composition anyway?
Bard MC, Barb, Wizard and Rogue.
 

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Man Pathfinder Wrath is so much better than this game it's not even funny.

But I guess production values, voice acting and modern sensibilities are more popular.
It's really not. It's a tedious, boring mess with endless trash fights and repetitive prebuffing sessions. Terribly designed game with a very generic "saving the world" story.

Rogue trader is the first game by Owlcat that I managed to finish because it cut a lot of that crap.
 
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Act 3 is a mess plot/cut content wise but idk why anyone cares about that so much.
It also culminates with a lack of varied endings which is the bigger issue for me.

Also salty that the devs didn't add a Gortash alliance ending in that last content patch that Larian did. They did my bro dirty.
 

Yosharian

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Plonked the goblin bosses, are all boss fights in this game cheesable with high ground and some explosive powder barrels?
Are you playing Honour mode or Tactician?

But ye pretty much
Kept on the Honor so Dishonor mode I guess, but yeah once I figured out the tricks combat got pretty easy. Scout ahead, find the high ground, repeat.
Ah well the goblin area is not too challenging for a competent party. There are more challenging bosses later on.

What's your party composition anyway?
Bard MC, Barb, Wizard and Rogue.
Yeah you shouldn't have too much trouble assuming you built them right
 

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Plonked the goblin bosses, are all boss fights in this game cheesable with high ground and some explosive powder barrels?
Are you playing Honour mode or Tactician?

But ye pretty much
Kept on the Honor so Dishonor mode I guess, but yeah once I figured out the tricks combat got pretty easy. Scout ahead, find the high ground, repeat.
Ah well the goblin area is not too challenging for a competent party. There are more challenging bosses later on.

What's your party composition anyway?
Bard MC, Barb, Wizard and Rogue.
Yeah you shouldn't have too much trouble assuming you built them right
Yeah, I definately wouldn't keep the rogue single-classed. In fact I also wouldn't keep the Barb single-classed... and probably not even the Bard (although that one can be decent single-classed).
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
This is gonna be a lame normie question but I don't give a fuck, I don't play DnD ok.

Every build video I've seen always talks about "five three split barb wiz" and "eleven fucking fifty split whoremonger hentai master". Multiclassing? I'm about 40 hours in this game and I haven't seen anything pointing to multiclassing. Why should I do it and also how? The fuck? Levelling is mostly automatic, I just press the button and something awesome happens. How do I "split" my character?
 

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Strap Yourselves In
This is gonna be a lame normie question but I don't give a fuck, I don't play DnD ok.

Every build video I've seen always talks about "five three split barb wiz" and "eleven fucking fifty split whoremonger hentai master". Multiclassing? I'm about 40 hours in this game and I haven't seen anything pointing to multiclassing. Why should I do it and also how? The fuck? Levelling is mostly automatic, I just press the button and something awesome happens. How do I "split" my character?
When you enter the level up screen, on the very first tab that shows your class, you can click a little button on the top-right I think, that shows you a list of all classes.

Why should you do it? To min-max one of the easiest RPG games out there. Going pure 12 in any class is more than enough, they are all strong enough (maybe apart from Druid as it's implementation seems lacking).

Most build guides are going to be doing 1 of 4 things anyway:
  1. Multiclassing (at least 2 levels) paladin with another CHA based class, e.g. Bardadin, Sorcadin, Lockadin, etc. Basically use the CHA based classes' spell slots for smiting.
  2. Multiclassing into thief for that extra bonus action for any class that utilizes it. Most common example is probably berserker barb, to get an extra attack from that bonus action.
  3. Multiclassing into fighter 2 for an action surge.
  4. Multiclassing into wizard 1 to let you learn spells from scrolls. This feels like an exploit due to how caster levels work in this game, as it's impossible to do this in PnP.
But honestly, multiclassing in this game is not that important, most of your strength will come from OP magical items that are litered through-out the game. A party of pure 12 classes is way stronger than needed to beat the game on honor mode without issues. Sure rogue 12 will get outclassed by most builds just multiclassing into thief4, but who cares.

It feels like the same thing that plagues PF:KM - where most of the build guides have you splitting between 8 classes for some fucking reason (and all of them pick vivisectionist1/monk1, so fucking original) - even though a single classed level 20 build will oftenly perform the same if not better anyway.
 

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A pure class rogue is damn weak compared to other options. 3-4 levels is all a rogue is good for.

Fighter 2 with Action Surge is good, but 3-4 for archetype goodies (and maybe extra feat) is better. However since Fighter gets Extra-Extra Attack at 11, a Battlemaster is also a very solid pure class.

Pure Blade Warlock works... but actually 5 levels are awesome: Extra Attack (that stacks below Honor mode! - you can create a monstrosity like a 30-hits in opening round Warlock/Barb/Fighter; also goes great with Fighter Action Surge and Battle Maneuvers... and the overused Paladin - personally not a fan, as that's usually a Smite spammer, not a hybrid gish caster; hell a Warlock / Sword Bard is pretty great, with the Charisma synergies and double-hit Melee Slashing Fluorishes with polearms for reach to skewer 2 enemies at a time), Charisma for Attack and damage for ALL melee weapons, Hunger of Hadar, Darkness + Devil's Sight, Cloud of Daggers, maybe Blindness or Slow (Blindness is no-Concentration and adds extra targets with Spell levels).

A Sword Bard obviously loves to multiclass past level 6 (or 10).

Conversely I'm torn about the Druid. On the one hand, its not the best class overall. On the other, it seems to gain a lot from staying pure (if less then Sorcerers and Wizards). Better Wildshapes (including triple attack elemental Myrmidon forms for Moon Druids), summons and great circle 6 spells. Therefore a druid I'd actually keep pure. Gish druids are also possible, but after the early levels are generally weaker then Warlock and Bard gishes IMO.
 
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Yosharian

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This is gonna be a lame normie question but I don't give a fuck, I don't play DnD ok.

Every build video I've seen always talks about "five three split barb wiz" and "eleven fucking fifty split whoremonger hentai master". Multiclassing? I'm about 40 hours in this game and I haven't seen anything pointing to multiclassing. Why should I do it and also how? The fuck? Levelling is mostly automatic, I just press the button and something awesome happens. How do I "split" my character?
By design, everything is hidden so that normies don't get confused by having options

Also don't bother, multi classing isn't necessary in the least, game is fucking easy
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.

Also don't bother, multi classing isn't necessary in the least, game is fucking easy
Yea, my first run is on Normal and I go through the game p. smoothly, without multiclassing or even respeccing (altho I will be respeccing Shadowheart today, who the fuck designed her attribute distribution? All she does in fights is cast Bless, miss a Guiding Bolt, then die. I might actually multiclass her, probably into a Pally so that she doesn't feel as useless).
 

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Also don't bother, multi classing isn't necessary in the least, game is fucking easy
Yea, my first run is on Normal and I go through the game p. smoothly, without multiclassing or even respeccing (altho I will be respeccing Shadowheart today, who the fuck designed her attribute distribution? All she does in fights is cast Bless, miss a Guiding Bolt, then die. I might actually multiclass her, probably into a Pally so that she doesn't feel as useless).
Her domain sucks badly, unless you wanna play a stealth assassin maybe - and she's your buff support to remain undetectable. Otherwise change her domain at least. Most others are decent-to-strong.
Except Knowledge. And Life, I don't think that's needed. Also personally not a fan of War, I think there are better hybrid martial caster options (but 1 level works for cheap Heavy Armor access + Command access + plus a couple Bonus Action Attacksper rest).

Still every cleric is very handy with Healing Word (Mass) + Whispering Promise Ring + Hellrider's Pride gloves (both can be gotten from the first area of Act 1) to Bonus Action strongly buff your party, without using Concentration.
And every cleric gets Spirit Guardians to rock trough Act 2. Also trivialize most enemies with Radiant Orbs from Luminous Armor (again Act 1). Maybe also add Boots of Stormy Clamour, Gloves of Beligerent Skies and Holy Lance Helm for good measure, to also debuff their saves and make some of them fall prone. That'll make any Beyblade cleric OP. And all this stuff is Act 1 AFAIR.
 
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Yosharian

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Also don't bother, multi classing isn't necessary in the least, game is fucking easy
Yea, my first run is on Normal and I go through the game p. smoothly, without multiclassing or even respeccing (altho I will be respeccing Shadowheart today, who the fuck designed her attribute distribution? All she does in fights is cast Bless, miss a Guiding Bolt, then die. I might actually multiclass her, probably into a Pally so that she doesn't feel as useless).
To be fair I have a multi class build for SH that I think is quite decent if you're looking for one
 

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This is gonna be a lame normie question but I don't give a fuck, I don't play DnD ok.

Every build video I've seen always talks about "five three split barb wiz" and "eleven fucking fifty split whoremonger hentai master". Multiclassing? I'm about 40 hours in this game and I haven't seen anything pointing to multiclassing. Why should I do it and also how? The fuck? Levelling is mostly automatic, I just press the button and something awesome happens. How do I "split" my character?
By design, everything is hidden so that normies don't get confused by having options

Also don't bother, multi classing isn't necessary in the least, game is fucking easy
It may not be necessary, but what's the point of playing a crpg if you don't even play with the numbers and optimize your build? :philosoraptor:
 

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