Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Rumors [CONFIRMED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Fedora Master]

BG only had slightly gay forced humor, Larian games are nothing but forced gay randumb humor.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

So far they haven't seemed interested in forcing any dev to use any edition,

Sword Coast legends says otherwise.

and seem to prefer devs using made-up editions.

Adaptations of existing editions, or as in case of stuff like Knights of the Chalice and Realms Beyond, the open licenses which don't need you to partner up with WoTC.

but if it is I can't be the only that is sure this will not be any edition of D&D?

Gotta wait and see, I suppose.

 

[Agame]

Even if true, Larian is a false prophet of incline. It will be a multiplayer focused casualfest with every interesting game mechanic dumbed down and balanced to appeal to the wide audience, and then have a definitive edition console port after a year.

Baldurs Royale?

 

[Fedora Master]

If you want an image of the future of RPGs, imagine the Baldur's Gate novelization turned into a game by Beamdog and published by EA... with a new iteration each year. Forever.

 

[Roqua]

Sword Coast legends says otherwise.

Adaptations of existing editions, or as in case of stuff like Knights of the Chalice and Realms Beyond, the open licenses which don't need you to partner up with WoTC.

SCL says exactly what I'm saying and proves my point 100%. It had no edition. Sure, it claimed it was an edition but had no relation at all to it. And did WotC demand they call it that edition? If so, why not demand they actually use something resembling that edition?

 

[RK47]

Can't wait for the co-op romance.
Who gets to carry the baby?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

BG only had slightly gay forced humor, Larian games are nothing but forced gay randumb humor.

remember that time BG had a pregnant character?
Top-tier writing.

 

[ArchAngel]

I would love if Larian got a chance to make a TB BG3.

Also if this is true, it would explain why Beamdog was cut off from new D&D games and then Gaider left.

 

[HoboForEternity]

With Diablo loot, stupid initiative system, retarted level scaling?

Next pls.

 

[DraQ]

BG only had slightly gay forced humor, Larian games are nothing but forced gay randumb humor.

I rated your post because you said "gay" so it is funny, you see.

Also, humour in Dvinity 2 (both base and expansion) was fucking stellar, and even terribad (in terms of anything writing related, although I guess we all remember the original cheese vendor fondly) DOS1 made me laugh once (earth statue joke was pretty good).

Meanwhile, whenever Bioware attempts humour the result is an embarrassment, and it's not like the rest of their writing has ever been anything to write home about.

 

[Delterius]

then Gaider left.

Obviously, we have found a solution to Larian's writing.

 

[DraQ]

then Gaider left.

Obviously, we have found a solution to Larian's writing.

Hire Gaider and then fire him?

Not sure how it would fix anything.

 

[Delterius]

then Gaider left.

Obviously, we have found a solution to Larian's writing.

Hire Gaider and then fire him?

Not sure how it would fix anything.

It puts the fear of God in the heart of McComb.

 

[Yosharian]

BG only had slightly gay forced humor, Larian games are nothing but forced gay randumb humor.

Jan: So Viconia, I suppose you must be a drow, eh?

Viconia: Speak not to your betters, surface slave.

Jan: My brother, Elgar Buttercup, had skin the shade of charcoal, too. Well, technically it WAS charcoal. He died in a nasty fire, you see.

Viconia: You do love the sound of your own voice, don't you gnome?

Jan: My own voice? Heartless wench! Do you not know? I am deaf. I have never heard the sound of my own voice. I read lips... (sob)... only lips...

Viconia: Deaf? Truly? In the Underdark the deaf are killed or used in pain threshold experiments.

Jan: I heard that! In fact, it reminds me of the time I was eaten by an avatar of Lolth. I was stuck inside her stomach with a miserable drow called Biffle Chump for days. Of course, I was forced to eat him. A matter of survival, you understand. Nothing personal. He tasted a bit like chicken.

Viconia: [to Protagonist] How is it that you travel with such a wee buffoon?

Protagonist: Truthfully, it all goes back to the time that Jan's cousin, Plooty Paladin-piper, got caught in a nasty flesh golem eating contest...

Jan: Aye, Plooty had a way of attracting golems. Brilliant, really. You start with a saucer of milk - golems are suckers for milk...

Viconia: I refuse to listen to this.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Still better than anything Larian has ever shat out...

Jan: So Viconia, I suppose you must be a drow, eh?

Viconia: Speak not to your betters, surface slave.

Jan: My brother, Elgar Buttercup, had skin the shade of charcoal, too. Well, technically it WAS charcoal. He died in a nasty fire, you see.

Viconia: You do love the sound of your own voice, don't you gnome?

Jan: My own voice? Heartless wench! Do you not know? I am deaf. I have never heard the sound of my own voice. I read lips... (sob)... only lips...

Viconia: Deaf? Truly? In the Underdark the deaf are killed or used in pain threshold experiments.

Jan: I heard that! In fact, it reminds me of the time I was eaten by an avatar of Lolth. I was stuck inside her stomach with a miserable drow called Biffle Chump for days. Of course, I was forced to eat him. A matter of survival, you understand. Nothing personal. He tasted a bit like chicken.

Viconia: [to Protagonist] How is it that you travel with such a wee buffoon?

Protagonist: Truthfully, it all goes back to the time that Jan's cousin, Plooty Paladin-piper, got caught in a nasty flesh golem eating contest...

Jan: Aye, Plooty had a way of attracting golems. Brilliant, really. You start with a saucer of milk - golems are suckers for milk...

Viconia: I refuse to listen to this.

 

[Tigranes]

If we're going for cheesy campy hurr hurr, then yes, it's funnier than anything Larian has ever written, since most Larianjokes are actively offensive to the humours.

 

[Darth Roxor]

i dont trust anyone who dislikes jan jansen

 

[Sizzle]

If we're going for cheesy campy hurr hurr, then yes, it's funnier than anything Larian has ever written, since most Larianjokes are actively offensive to the humours.

It's at least amusing. Humor isn't that easy to write, and for many game development studios today, it just defaults to trying to do something snarky (aka - Joss Whedonesque).

Here's what we get when modern writers try to replicate BG banters without understanding this:

 

[Jezal_k23]

Not only is that writing awful judged on its own, it becomes even worse when you consider that this is part of a Baldur's Gate game. Completely out of place. It's like they didn't bother to figure out how the original writers inserted humor into the original games in order to replicate that and just decided to go with their own (inferior) thing.

 

[Volourn]

EPIC FAIL.

 

[Outlander]

 

[Shadenuat]

i dont trust anyone who dislikes jan jansen

I don't trust those who bash bioware writing and at the same time say Larian somehow redeemed themselves in any way with DOS2, that's for sure.

 

[DraQ]

i dont trust anyone who dislikes jan jansen

OTOH BW also made Minsc.

And a whole lot of characters I can't really tell:

• if they were meant to be serious or humorous
• which option would be the sadder one

Spoiler

And then BW made MDK2

 

[Roguey]

OTOH BW also made Minsc.

Jan is Gaider's, Minsc is Kristjanson's.

Faulty memory, Kristjanson wrote both. For posterity, Gaider's contributions to BG2

The only follower I created myself was Valygar (up until the point I stepped in to write him, all we knew about him was that he was supposed to be a ranger). The other ones all had at least some writing done and I picked up where the other writers had left off and ran with it. We ended up writing a lot of each others’ stuff on this project, but the characters I had primary responsibility for were:

• Viconia
• Aerie
• Anomen
• Valygar
• Haer’Dalis

My memory’s a bit hazy, but I seem to remember writing a lot of Korgan and Keldorn, so it’s possible they were mine as well. Or they could have been Kevin Martens’ and I just wrote a big chunk of them later on. I have unclear memories of writing much of Athkatla and the Drow city in the Underdark— gosh, that’s a long time ago.

When we moved onto the Throne of Bhaal expansion, the characters for which we were responsible remained the same… with the only exception being Sarevok, who I ended up also writing.

 

[Yosharian]

Just because Gaider did some good writing way back when doesn't mean he's still a good writer, and all evidence points to him not having a clue any more. He's an old codger who hasn't written anything decent in a long time.

A little reminder:

Gaider wrote for Dragon Age II, where he had a major contribution to the plot, creating the characters Cassandra Pentaghast, Fenris, and Meredith

In any case, as much as I adore Viconia, I'd be the first to admit that she's not a very well-written character. It's less than she's well-written, and more that it's simply refreshing to have a character, and love interest, that doesn't fall in love with you in the very first conversation, and actually challenges the you in conversations. Viconia couldn't exist in a modern RPG because she'd be too 'problematic'.