Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Jedi Master Radek]

They have written themselves into a corner by using Illithids and level 10 cap.

And putting dragons in the initial cutscene. It creates expectancy. You don't fight dragons on BG1. Probably they will nerf Illithids and probably wrote the history without thinking on the gameplay(is a fault that over 99% of modern game devs commit, they don't care about making game mechanics a good reflection of game lore)

PS : I know that Illithids, liches and dragons aren't deadly as on 3.5e and 2e but still...

PS 2 : Dragons Dogma is one of the few games which did dragon fights right. They have a lot of nasty abilities.

I blame current gamers. You can't give them a real low level campaign, every game has to be a massive explosionfest, where you are the biggest hero. You have to start with killing a dragon in the first game. And yeah, it sucks.

Are gamers to blame or developers? Are gamers complaining if they get something more low level?

 

[Ontopoly]

I have played Pathfinder over 300 hours while only playing Dos2 for around 30 hours. I remember wanting to kill myself during those 30 hours but not much more than that.

The obvious answer of your our prayers is for you to give DOS2 another shot, play it for 90 more hours and if you're still alive afterward, play it again!

Maybe I'll play it again for a blog post( a very negative one). I need some pictures to fluff it up and I don't like stealing other people's work.

 

[Swen]

Don't you poor low IQ butthurt neckbeards have a special hate thread to talk about BG3?

Oh well, I understand your butthurt is too much to be contained in one thread though.

 

[fantadomat]

Don't you poor low IQ butthurt neckbeards have a special hate thread to talk about BG3?

Oh well, I understand your butthurt is too much to be contained in one thread though.

 

[Thac0]

Don't you poor low IQ butthurt neckbeards have a special hate thread to talk about BG3?

Oh well, I understand your butthurt is too much to be contained in one thread though.

Hey hey that thread can be given to good posters aswell, my man Oracsbox keeps the elf porn thread alive.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/female-elf-tribute-thread-nsfw.132596/page-9

 

[TemplarGR]

Are gamers to blame or developers? Are gamers complaining if they get something more low level?

To be honest, gamers are to blame primarily. Most gamers think BGII is the superior game just because it had a higher level cap (and better graphics). While any proper monocled connoisseur knows that the original BG is the best. Gamers typically want bombastic experiences, they are not interested in most down to earth low level adventures, which in my opinion are typically better in gameplay and atmosphere.

 

[fantadomat]

Don't you poor low IQ butthurt neckbeards have a special hate thread to talk about BG3?

Oh well, I understand your butthurt is too much to be contained in one thread though.

Hey hey that thread can be given to good posters aswell, my man Oracsbox keeps the elf porn thread alive.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/female-elf-tribute-thread-nsfw.132596/page-9

That is true,still swen is not a good poster. Very angry and very butthurt,really can't chill and have a good laugh. Also MuuuTooo3 will be shit game.

 

[Cryomancer]

Pathfinder was so much more memorable to me than Dos2. To be fair, I have played Pathfinder over 300 hours while only playing Dos2 for around 30 hours. I remember wanting to kill myself during those 30 hours but not much more than that.

I played dos2 for about 6 hours and could't play a single second anymore... It has everything which i hate on modern games.

Pathfinder Kingmaker has everything which i love from old school RPG's.

To be honest, gamers are to blame primarily. Most gamers think BGII is the superior game just because it had a higher level cap (and better graphics). While any proper monocled connoisseur knows that the original BG is the best. Gamers typically want bombastic experiences, they are not interested in most down to earth low level adventures, which in my opinion are typically better in gameplay and atmosphere.

But you love Skyrim, a game which you can fight a **** dragon after the first dungeon.

On Baldur's Gate 2, you don't fight dragons on chapter 1, and most time of BG2 is around MID LEVELS. For me, 1~7 = low level, 8~15 = mid level and 16~epic = high level. Dragons are creatures which you only fight on late chapters when your party is all above lv 15. On Skyrim, is a creature which your dragon born with novice/apprentice levels of magic, bows and etc can fight with no problems. Thanks level scaling.

Also, i an a power hungry necromancer. hu3hu3hu3

LV 30 Pale Master - iwd

And note that you should't blame the D&D gamer. Contrary to pathfinder, the great majority of D&D adventures happens bellow lv 10. Is not like pathfinder where most modules end up on lv 17. Most modules for D&D 5e which happens above lv 10 also happens outside of sword coast. Like descend to Arvenus, only the late stages in Arvenus, you will probably reach above lv 10. Lv 13 at best. Ravenloft if i remember correctly goes up to lv 12(not sure)

I would like more if the lv cap was at least 12? Yes. But look for the good side. Those who wanna a low level adventure can play BG3 and those who wanna a high level adventure can play PF:WoTR. Good RPG's for both tastes. I only an concerned with Solasta. It will be 5e OGL and having to compete with BG3, well, i wish lucky to then.

Hey hey that thread can be given to good posters aswell, my man Oracsbox keeps the elf porn thread alive.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/female-elf-tribute-thread-nsfw.132596/page-9

I don't have permission to see that thread. How can i get permission? hu3hu3hu3

 

[Thac0]

I don't have permission to see that thread. How can i get permission? hu3hu3hu3

Just wait 12 days. No bullshit, your account needs to be a year old for the advanced rights. That or you pay DU 5 bucks drug money.

 

[Cael]

I don't have permission to see that thread. How can i get permission? hu3hu3hu3

Just wait 12 days. No bullshit, your account needs to be a year old for the advanced rights. That or you pay DU 5 bucks drug money.

DarkUnderlord 's an Aussie. He doesn't spend it on drugs. He dumps it in the pokies :D

 

[Elex]

So we have to endure 8 weeks of shitposting or they will give us more infos?

 

[Theldaran]

8 weeks of Sweeperposting *shrugs*

 

[Oracsbox]

Don't you poor low IQ butthurt neckbeards have a special hate thread to talk about BG3?

Oh well, I understand your butthurt is too much to be contained in one thread though.

Hey hey that thread can be given to good posters aswell, my man Oracsbox keeps the elf porn thread alive.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/female-elf-tribute-thread-nsfw.132596/page-9

It's always nice to see my work recognised..however I believe my shitposter tag may have been a clerical error..Threads such as this show my more prestigious content
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-addendum-tv-other-media-occasionally.127687/
Or perhaps one of my movie reviews
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-have-seen-rating.58733/page-676#post-6763617

 

[Elex]

 

[Thac0]

Thats really cool for when they add multiclassing in Early access. Being able to fully respec the base apart from the class means you can spec them into every different class if you want.

(for the uninitiated only multiclassing requirements 5e has is that you need at least 13 points in your old and new classes main stats to do a multiclass. Some classes are counted as having more than one main stat for the purpose of this. So a 13/13/13/13/13/13 character [which is kinda awfull but mathematically possible with point buy] can take a level in all 12 classes. )

 

[Shrimp]

Have they said anything at all about customising the classes for the companions? One of the things I wasn't fond of in DOS2 was that when you recruited a companion you'd get to pick their base class which in that game's case was more of a stat preset rather than a set class due to how 'classes' work in that game
While I understand it opens up more customisability from a gameplay perspective I feel like it removes a lot of the companions' personality or potentially defining characteristics when everyone can be everything

 

[Fedora Master]

Shit stat spread on the companions.

 

[Theldaran]

You mean everyone CAN'T be everything? The nerve!

 

[Shrimp]

Hence why I'm hoping companions have predetermined classes rather than the pick-what-you-want approach Larian's previous game had.

 

[Dodo1610]

Hence why I'm hoping companions have predetermined classes rather than the pick-what-you-want approach Larian's previous game had.

Their starting class is defined by the character's backstory.

 

[Shrimp]

Hence why I'm hoping companions have predetermined classes rather than the pick-what-you-want approach Larian's previous game had.

Their starting class is defined by the character's backstory.

But you're only given the choice of picking a backstory when you create your first character, aren't you? Or are you just straight up creating your entire party at the start of the game? Big decline if that's the case

 

[Dodo1610]

Hence why I'm hoping companions have predetermined classes rather than the pick-what-you-want approach Larian's previous game had.

Their starting class is defined by the character's backstory.

But you're only given the choice of picking a backstory when you create your first character, aren't you? Or are you just straight up creating your entire party at the start of the game? Big decline if that's the case

You can play either an origin character with a fixed backstory and starting class or build a custom character where you choose class, backstory and so on. The rest of the party consists either of the other origins/companions you recruit during the game or you can start with a full custom party just like in the old BG games

 

[Shrimp]

Hence why I'm hoping companions have predetermined classes rather than the pick-what-you-want approach Larian's previous game had.

Their starting class is defined by the character's backstory.

But you're only given the choice of picking a backstory when you create your first character, aren't you? Or are you just straight up creating your entire party at the start of the game? Big decline if that's the case

You can play either an origin character with a fixed backstory and starting class or build a custom character where you choose class, backstory and so on.

But my question was about the recruitable companions, not your player character.

 

[Dodo1610]

Hence why I'm hoping companions have predetermined classes rather than the pick-what-you-want approach Larian's previous game had.

Their starting class is defined by the character's backstory.

But you're only given the choice of picking a backstory when you create your first character, aren't you? Or are you just straight up creating your entire party at the start of the game? Big decline if that's the case

You can play either an origin character with a fixed backstory and starting class or build a custom character where you choose class, backstory and so on.

But my question was about the recruitable companions, not your player character.

The rest of the party consists either of the other origins/companions you recruit during the game or you can start with a full custom party just like in the old BG games.

 

[fantadomat]

Thats really cool for when they add multiclassing in Early access. Being able to fully respec the base apart from the class means you can spec them into every different class if you want.

(for the uninitiated only multiclassing requirements 5e has is that you need at least 13 points in your old and new classes main stats to do a multiclass. Some classes are counted as having more than one main stat for the purpose of this. So a 13/13/13/13/13/13 character [which is kinda awfull but mathematically possible with point buy] can take a level in all 12 classes. )

Why bother with 13 in all when you could just use cheat engine to get 18 in all and play a pure rogue ?!