Baldurs Gate vs Pathfinder: Kingmaker

[Mr. Magniloquent]

I broke down and finally installed it. I had to take a peek. I mostly wanted to play around with the character creator to see what is under the hood. Wonderful so far. I also played a bit to get a sense of it, and it feels just like the IE games. Thus far, easily on par with BG1, but then again, I haven't gotten far. The more advanced rule set definitely gives it a major edge. I'm contented, and will resume waiting until it's completed with all of the DLC. Lets hope Owlcat can deal with the attrition of fixing and refining it over the next year(s).

 

[Sykar]

BG for simple reason of not being a bug version of a singularity.

Bitch please~ BG was full of bugs that require legions of fans to fix it after official devs giving up fixing~ Your reason is like comparing a fully mature, decades-fixing, product with a months-old game.

Most of the bugs were spell related like giving Simulacrum characters copies of scrolls in your quickslots, essentially giving you potentially endless amounts of very rare and very powerful scrolls and the rest were for the most part minor annoyances. The game itself was completely playable from start to finish with nary a noticeable bug encountered, only Torgall boss in the de'Arnise keep had a strange AI bug sometimes and simply did nothing just stood there, annoying but still no road block. Same goes for side quests. I finished it twice including ToB and not once did I encounter a game breaking bug.

 

[Risewild]

Shouldn't there be an option for "They're both great"?
There seems to be a good amount of people replying here that would have picked that option.

 

[Bester]

I had one bug where upon leveling up a mage, I couldn't select any new spells. That was back in 1.03 version or something. Patched the game up to 1.08 and the bug was gone.

All you whiners are the same kind of people who trashed VTMB for "being buggy" and bombed it in magazine reviews, leading to shitty sales.

It's like reading a book and then all you have to say is how the cover had a scratch on it. You can't see artistic value in games. You're the worst kind of bydlo, honestly. At least normal bydlo doesn't play games.

 

[Arthandas]

Cookies or death.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Shouldn't there be an option for "They're both great"?
There seems to be a good amount of people replying here that would have picked that option.

That's not how things work here.

 

[Risewild]

Shouldn't there be an option for "They're both great"?
There seems to be a good amount of people replying here that would have picked that option.

That's not how things work here.

To be honest... Most things don't really work here.

Nevermind me, I am just shitposting.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

BG1 = Kingmaker.

Both > BG2.

BG2 is a convoluted, linear-ish mess. BG1 is a more organic, open adventure and Kingmaker is on par with it.

 

[boobio]

What about the pathfinder world? Is it better than forgotten realms?

 

[Sacred82]

all of these "can new game X ever be as good as BG1?! Discuss!!!1" threads are fucking troll bait I swear

 

[thesheeep]

Shouldn't there be an option for "They're both great"?
There seems to be a good amount of people replying here that would have picked that option.

That's not how things work here.

To be honest... Most things don't really work here.

Nevermind me, I am just shitposting.

That one gets the spirit.
Give him a medal!

 

[sullynathan]

Jesus the 2017 and 2018 posters are so annoying.

 

[zapotec]

The Enhanced Edition introduced plenty of bugs in baldur's gate

 

[Darth Canoli]

I didn't play Pathfinder but i voted for it anyway because i want it to be better, otherwise, that would be so sad ...

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

in hindsight, baldur's gate was a literal miracle, even more considered its time. back in the day i downplayed its importance because i just came from the amiga world, "if frontier fits on a floppy, a whole universe should fit on a cd. a 4 cds game? this is wasteful crap", but thinking about what the following 20 years gave us, baldur's gate is witnessing water being turned into wine.
unfortunately i'm a numbersfag, and once the worst bugs are squashed (if ever, i have low hopes for this) i can see myself spending hundreds of hours more with kingcomrademaker, its mods and a hopefully coming into the future more sandboxy campaign.

 

[Cael]

The Enhanced Edition introduced plenty of bugs in baldur's gate

And you deserve every last one of them for buying the EE version.

 

[Serus]

all of these "can new game X ever be as good as BG1?! Discuss!!!1" threads are fucking troll bait I swear

I wish they were. But no such luck, some people here genuinely believe BG1 was a great game.

 

[Lilura]

BG series popularity will endure for 10 more years at least. I should know how popular it is: I get hundreds of thousands of BG-related views on my blog every year, even though I have criticized it for being RTwP.

I expect millions of BG-related views over the next few years.

Sorry to say, BG is not going away. Like it or not, it's big. Just accept it because there isn't anything you can do or say that will stem its tide.

 

[Risewild]

Like it or not, it's big. Just accept it because there isn't anything you can do or say that will stem its tide.

That's what she said...

Yes. I'm still just shitposting.

 

[Lilura]

Yes. I'm still just shitposting.

Oh, that's cool. Allow me to continue, then:

In order to impactfully erode Bhaalspawn Saga legacy, you would need to assemble an army and take over popular public venues year after year.

Your first port of call would need to be reddit. You would need an army of downvoters whenever someone says "BG2 is the greatest RPG ever". Which is all it takes to get 100 upvotes from the cattle. It's actually why people parrot that, because they know it's easy upvotes on a shallow buzzfeed, and everytime they do it 10,000 people read it.

You would have to put every fanboi in its place, too. These people write essays on BG on various forums. Massive multi-page walls of text. It would take so much effort to turn the rabble against these ring-leaders.

Basically, all you can do is wait it out / outlast them. But I doubt you could if you think BG praise is toxic and makes you butthurt, because cancer stemming from enduring that would get you first.

 

[YanBG]

You don't have to use the icon, codexers have a trained eye.

 

[Sacred82]

ITT old fucks thinking their favorite gaem will always be teh greatest when there are new titles out that blow them out of the water, not just in the eyes of the unwashed youth

 

[Risewild]

You don't have to use the icon, codexers have a trained eye.

But I only shitpost so I have a reason to use that.

 

[hell bovine]

BG for simple reason of not being a bug version of a singularity.

Bitch please~ BG was full of bugs that require legions of fans to fix it after official devs giving up fixing~ Your reason is like comparing a fully mature, decades-fixing, product with a months-old game.

It's not really comparable when the combined mass of Pathfinder hotfixes has already exceeded the size of the game, and we are nowhere near 'fully patched' status yet. No BG patches and fanmade fixes were ever so bad. As much as I like Pathinder, the game engine they are using is not doing them any favors.

 

[Serus]

BG series popularity will endure for 10 more years at least. I should know how popular it is: I get hundreds of thousands of BG-related views on my blog every year, even though I have criticized it for being RTwP.

I expect millions of BG-related views over the next few years.

Sorry to say, BG is not going away. Like it or not, it's big. Just accept it because there isn't anything you can do or say that will stem its tide.

Of curse it will. No reason to questions the reality that it was (and still is in a way) a popular CRPG. Oblivion and Skyrim are even more popular. Just saying.