Dexter
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Arkham Knight was great.Then again Rocksteady couldn’t really deliver with AK, so... meh.
Arkham Knight was great.Then again Rocksteady couldn’t really deliver with AK, so... meh.
Arkham Knight was great.Then again Rocksteady couldn’t really deliver with AK, so... meh.
Well, I disagree with most of that:Aside from the fact that it had one of the most disastrous launches of any AAA game in the last decade, I found it merely okay. The writing was a substantial dip from the prior two games, and the emphasis on the Batmobile was misguided. Art direction was really the only area that it delivered.
I went into some more detail here: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...ight-back-on-steam.90253/page-41#post-4700636I've been playing this after I got my 1080 GTX. I've been expecting it to be a mess, but it's been stable 60FPS at 4K with details maxed and I haven't really run into any issues. It's a lot better than I expected, certainly much better than Arkham Origins. I'm not sure how I should arrange the games, but I think it would be Arkham City > Arkham Knight > Arkham Asylum >>> Arkham Origins (although maybe Asylum gets Bonus points for being the first and getting the gameplay perfected in the sequels to work).
You guys are both weird. Arkham Origins had some of the best writing in the "series" imo. I already talked about that upthread.
The only real problem with Origins was the clunky controls.
Strongly disagree. The bounty hunter backdrop is always there; the game begins with this (almost insultingly) simplistic premise and then deepens and widens with a ton of other story. It's as if the writers themselves are echoing the coolness of Batman's response. "So 8 super-assassins are competing to kill me in the next 6 hours. So what else is new, I have real work to do." None of the other games get substantially deeper than "[Name villain] is gonna blow up a bomb!!!".The plot of Origins is schizophrenic. It starts off with the bounty hunters plot line. Then completely forgets about it
No argument here.I’ll also never forgive their treatment of Deathstroke. What an absolute hack job on a great character.
That was only his final gag in Asylum, while Batman getting Jokerized is the entire plot of Knight.But let's say I don't know how you can rate the writing of a game where the Joker turns into a Muscle-headed Bane-copy that didn't play to his strengths as a villain at all as much better than one having Joker possessing Batman, while he tries to mantain his sanity and not have him "take over". And the least said about Arkham Origins, the better.
That was only his final gag in Asylum, while Batman getting Jokerized is the entire plot of Knight.But let's say I don't know how you can rate the writing of a game where the Joker turns into a Muscle-headed Bane-copy that didn't play to his strengths as a villain at all as much better than one having Joker possessing Batman, while he tries to mantain his sanity and not have him "take over". And the least said about Arkham Origins, the better.
The story in Asylum is presented as just another night in Batman's career. Nothing changes and Batman just methodically defeats all the villains and secures the island. Knight on the other hand continues on the same track as City and tries to make it the grandest, most epic Batman story ever and it ends up pretty nonsensical. The "mystery" of the Arkham Knight only has a single suspect and its resolution is so barebones there's almost nothing there.
It's also a terrible take on Batman and his supporting characters. Instead of celebrating the Bat-family it characterized Batman as a grumpy loner and that his colleagues should be better off without him.
In Asylum, Batman enters Killer Croc's lair and places a sonar device as well as explosives. When he's found what he came for deep within the lair, he uses the sonar device to find his way back and the explosives to bring the chasing Croc down. The madman had already predicted he would need the trap for Croc. Now that's Batman.
In Knight, Batman locks up Robin inside the hideout that Harley Quinn had already breached, and just leaves him there in the now compromised building. Later on Scarecrow simply walks in and kidnaps Robin, forcing Batman to surrender himself. The World's Greatest Detective just gives up at this point and doesn't even attempt to rescue his protege. I don't know who that was, but it wasn't Batman.
Yeah, and Dini is a great Batman writer. But in all fairness, the ending of City is pretty bad. Talia's surrender and Clayface's reveal make no sense, and Hugo Strange is complete letdown in both gameplay and story.Just so happens that Paul Dini, who worked on batman stuff for decades, wrote the first two games and some hack wrote the knight
Arkham Knight was great.Then again Rocksteady couldn’t really deliver with AK, so... meh.
I think next game should be about Batman Beyond
Just so happens that Paul Dini, who worked on batman stuff for decades, wrote the first two games and some hack wrote the knight
Asylum is the most video-gamey of them all with the most Un-Batman story. Everything is about Titan, which was a stupid concept to begin with and I can just repeat doesn't fit Joker as a character or his style at all:Nah. Asylum is the only one that is worthwhile, and that's because it's a short, tight game.
I think you're overstating Titan Joker's role in the story.Everything is about Titan, which was a stupid concept to begin with and I can just repeat doesn't fit Joker as a character or his style at all:
Bane is more of the person that injects himself with shit to become huge and breaks people's spine.
Origins Deathstroke? I thought his portrayal was good. Honorable assassin that takes the job on Batman's head and holds no grudges after losing. Whereas his portrayal in Knight was awful, just some asshole out for revenge on Batman all of a sudden.I’ll also never forgive their treatment of Deathstroke. What an absolute hack job on a great character.
I’ll also never forgive their treatment of Deathstroke. What an absolute hack job on a great character.
I've been getting messages like this replaying City/Origins, disabling DirectX Enhanced/Gameworks shit in the graphics settings made them go away.snip