Incline Battle Brothers + Beasts & Exploration, Warriors of the North and Blazing Deserts DLC Thread

[Covenant]

Before jumping straight to the armchair psychology, I'd be more inclined to just attribute it to mainly playing roguelikes or long RPGs in Ironman mode, where the best play is generally to play cautiously and leave your options open until you have as much information as possible. Assuming you want to rack up your streaks, anyway.

That said, you're right that the thing to do is probably just YOLO it and learn from the results.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/365360/announcements/detail/1590247899062751085

Update 1.3.0.21
7 Jun @ 5:37pm - rapsdjff

Changelog for 1.3.0.21

• Changed monetary value of named weapons to be more consistent.
  
• Changed Schrats to be more susceptible to being taunted.
  
• Changed some minor things to further improve AI behavior.
  
• Fixed incorrect cost of 'Spearwall' skill for named Spetum.
  
• Fixed fights involving cultist opponents not loading.
  
• Fixed issue with lone player character fighting against a high tier Nachzehrer.
  
• Fixed potentially incorrect text at the end of Barbarian King contract.
  
• Fixed event after beating the Icy Cave not firing in rare cases.
  
• Fixed various minor issues.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

 

[Murk]

Top two are my favorite style and look pretty darn good actually. Should make those variants for famed heavy helms.

 

[Strange Fellow]

This is fan-made stuff? Modders get on this shit

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Modders get on this shit

I'm still hoping for Berserk-mod.

 

[hivemind]

it wouldn't fit at all wtf

even golden age guts is completely next level compared to the relatively crippled characters that BB units are even on the high end

 

[Tigranes]

Speaking of saving perk points, anyone got any tips on curing myself of that behaviour? I'm terrible with it in games. Used to have over a hundred stat points saved in Diablo II (Hardcore, mind you) at any one time. In Battle Brothers I frequently have at least a couple saved on two or three guys, because I'm invariably thinking 'IF they get great Fat rolls from this point I'll do X, if not Y', or 'This guy is amazing, what weapon mastery should I give him? Hmm, I'll see what famed items I find'. 'Should I make this guy a hybrid? Let's see what his ranged rolls are like'.

Obviously allowing us to re-spec would be decline (though doing it in a limited fashion - and attaching a large cost - would be a great alternative use for the veteran's hall, which is currently pretty boring), so I need to break the habit if I'm ever going to beat the highest-tier shit like Black Monolith or Goblin City.

When you have an agonising moment where you spend 15 minutes calculating it all and then end up deferring the perk point, look back on that a few hours of gameplay later, and ask - did all of that agonising really make this character appreciably different? If you just spent it on some not-the-most-optimal place, would you ever have noticed the massive difference it made in his combat capacity? Would you even remember the difference?

At one point I realised, "oh I spent 30 minutes theorycrafting X skill feat etc combo vs Y" for NWN2 or Diablo or whatever - "but the extra 2% damage, am I even going to notice it if I didn't have it? I'm killing mobs about 0.001 second faster, but I spent 2 hours agonising about it, is this really a net gain in fun or efficiency?"

Sometimes, doing this in games is a little bit like standing in a store worrying about the tiniest of differences between this trashcan and this other trashcan, before realising that after you buy one and bring it home, nobody in the universe is ever going to notice these differences enough for it to matter.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

it wouldn't fit at all wtf

even golden age guts is completely next level compared to the relatively crippled characters that BB units are even on the high end

Yep.
That's Guts in manga/anime too compared to normal poor mooks.

I've still toyed with idea how hideously OP he would be in this kind of setting.

 

[Murk]

I used to keep a spare point for end-game optimization (should I take duelist on this guy? I'll wait to see if I get a good 1handed famed weapon, etc.) but the times I did that I ended up just walking around with an unspent point for 50-100+ in game days and not using the point, ever. Now I just take whatever seems fun at the moment.

Anyway, just take something that's always useful like fortified mind or take something that gives you more tactical use, like adrenaline or taunt.

If you later do find the special weapon that makes you change your mind then make a new bro to spec it out or just use a hex editor to adjust one of your current dudes. It's a game, if it's causing you to be stressed out over stuff like a marginal opportunity cost then things are going wrong.

edit: If you do play with a full combat party of 12, then use 2 characters for wacky weirdo builds and experiment with them. If you find that almost all of your characters have an "optimal" build that's a literal copy-paste of one another, try recruiting a decentish temp brother (militia, squire, brawler, etc.) and give them a weird atypical build you'd never use typically and see where it takes you.

 

[hivemind]

Yep.
That's Guts in manga/anime too compared to normal poor mooks.

I've still toyed with idea how hideously OP he would be in this kind of setting.

yeah but this game is not really about combat either from a tactical or action perspective so having a combat focused character like guts be the center of a mod would imo defeat the whole point

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Yep.
That's Guts in manga/anime too compared to normal poor mooks.

I've still toyed with idea how hideously OP he would be in this kind of setting.

yeah but this game is not really about combat either from a tactical or action perspective so having a combat focused character like guts be the center of a mod would imo defeat the whole point

Why focus on Guts when you could do Griffith focus instead?
Besides silly unbalanced mods are fun now and then.

 

[hivemind]

Why focus on Guts when you could do Griffith focus instead?

could work well with the female faces mod I guess, lol

 

[anvi]

Is this game fun?

 

[anvi]

Hmmmmmmmm.

 

[hivemind]

no

it's a dumb grind

 

[anvi]

That's what I thought. And not great combat.

 

[hivemind]

this game isn't about combat

it's about managing economic attrition

 

[anvi]

So what's with the 249 pages? It sounds bad.

 

[hivemind]

literally an asylum for autistic people with gambling problems and obsessive personality disorders

 

[anvi]

Gaming really is a home to a lot of those people. I hope they all find peace.

 

[agris]

i think you'll figure it out if you post more

 

[Modron]

i think you'll figure it out if you post more

In case you are unaware that is Hivemind. What can change the nature of an autist?

 

[vazha]

Have any of you gentlemen (and Jessica) got the kings guard background chap? 300 days in, traversing frozen north, hunting down barbs, still nothing.

 

[hivemind]

What can change the nature of an autist?

mdma(temporarily)

lsd(might backfire)

having sex(presumably)

Have any of you gentlemen (and Jessica) got the kings guard background chap? 300 days in, traversing frozen north, hunting down barbs, still nothing.

it's probs not worth looking out for, someone on reddit legit made a mod to make it have better stats

just keep hiring economically efficient brawlers and militiamen