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The Dark Eye Blackguards - turn-based tactical RPG set in The Dark Eye world

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Kem0sabe, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. Piotrovitz Learned

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    Finally beat those dorfs, took maybe three or four attempts.

    So far it seems like the magic system is similar to majority of cRPGs, i.e DD spells are shit, buffs/debuffs are king.
     
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  2. V_K Arcane

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    Typically, it's even more so in TDE in general. I think BG actually upped the usefulness of damage spells. In Realms of Arkania, e.g., you would barely ever use them.
     
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  3. Darth Canoli Magister

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    Yeah, it's way worse here, for example, some damage spells gets AoE at some level, starting with a cone radius.

    Yet, that cone radius (D&D burning hands style) is stopped by any fucking pebble on its way, it's just retarded, like a 20 centimeters height difference would stop it...

    Still a good game in spite of this but really, what were they thinking?
     
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  4. Jvegi Arcane

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    It's 1$ on steam sale now, just bought it. Perhaps I'll even play it some day.
     
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  5. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    You should. It is excellent.
     
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  6. cvv Arcane Patron

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    So first of all, why the fuck have I waited so long to play this. Jesus christ this game is good.

    In chapter 2 now and I summon the hivemind for a few tips:

    1) Everything but basic bitch mobs are dodging/parrying quite often, what's the best way to deal with that? Manual says Courage and Agility are the determinant attributes for Base Attack but raising attributes is very expensive at the start, is it better to pump weapon talents first? Is there a hit-chance buff spell in the game?

    2) Spell fizzle pissing me off. Maybe I'm blind but there's nothing about the fizzle mechanics in the manual and I just can't into this shit so much. Any way to curtail this annoying effect?

    3) Hit chance percentage you can see when mousing over a mob seems wonky. Does is include all the modifiers? I'm missing a suspiciously large number of 60-70% hits and I think it's related to enemy resistances that I can't see (yet?).

    4) What's the general lay of the land levelling-wise? Attributes first or weapon talents or special talents or something else?

    5) Blackguards 2 are a single buck on Steam rn. Should I buy? Rox wasn't so cheery about it, is it really such a decline? I can get over some decline since I really love this formula but not too much.
     
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  7. V_K Arcane

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    Gang up on one enemy. It's TDE, so everyone only gets one parry per round.
     
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  8. Sweeper Arcane Zionist Agent

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    Weapon skill is the first thing you should max imo. There is a hit chance buff spell for both melee and ranged but you don't get access to the teacher until chapter 3 IIRC.

    You either raise the spell level or get the special ability that reduces the chances of fizzle, it's got pretty steep attribute requirements though.

    That's been my experience as well. I can't tell you how many times I've had 3-4 missed attacks one after the other with 80% hit chance. It prolly has something to do with the parry system. Focus your melee/ranged attacks on one target I guess.

    Weapon talents definitely. I played the game saving AP and spending it only when I absolutely needed to. Long story short pure warriors by the end game have so much AP you can actually max out 2 or more weapon skills along with phys attributes and weapon abilities.
     
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  9. toro Arcane

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    Blackguard 2 is a disappointment.

    That being said, buy it and check it out for yourself.
     
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  10. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    I liked bg2
     
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  11. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    When you do, you have the option of changing the weightage between attacking and parrying. Emphasize attacking if you're having real trouble hitting things.
     
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  12. Darth Canoli Magister

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    Just buy it but don't play it right after Blackguards 1.
    It's not as good as the original but still worth playing once if you really liked the first.

    It's a shame they couldn't improve the formula, would have been epic.
     
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  13. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Jesus christ Chapter 2 sucks big hairy balls.

    P.S. I just realized I picked the wrong chars for the 2nd gladiator fight and the game already autosaved after the 1st fight and my closest quicksave is all the way back in Chapter 1 before the big annoying fights with lizard dudes.

    Dear developers, choke on my big fat dick you fucking cretins.
     
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  14. Lhynn Arcane

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    Blaggards 2 is shit, couldnt stomach a single mission. Just play the first one, which is pretty lenghty, then move on to something else.
     
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  15. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    why do you lie

    ah, that's why

    save early, save often
     
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  16. Darth Canoli Magister

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    That's your mistake, if you can endure it for a couple of hours, it grows on you.
     
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  17. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    If you like the first one, the second one is mostly an expansion.
     
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  18. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    I haven't even finished it, and the original was my Game of the Decade. Should tell you everything about how terrible it is.

    What's with the BG2 apologists coming out of the woodwork. Begone ye fools
     
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  19. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    Tbf the game is p. b0rken like that. But yes
     
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  20. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    Make sure you are using SpeedHack, otherwise you are just wasting your life.
     
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  21. RPK Learned

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    bought this game for like a dollar last night after seeing this thread get bumped. having lots of fun so far!
     
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  22. cvv Arcane Patron

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    OMG now I understand the hate for B2. I could get over the whole new "a gimmick for every fight" schtick, if the game didn't force me to "outwit" the battles in the most annoying, frustrating and unfun ways imaginable, usually running from mobs, avoiding them or pressing levers in awkward places. What is this gimmicky, gamey nonsense? Just give us normal, good ol' fashined turn based fighting for chrissake.

    Got as far as the fight with the dozen trees and the druid in the swamp and uninstalled shortly after. Christ on a bike, good thing I bought this for like a dollar.
     
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  23. Abu Antar Prestigious Gentleman Tweet, tweet Patron

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    I lasted 18 hours. Most of it was me forcing myself to keep going. Then, I just had enough and unistalled the game. I wanted to like it, I really did. Alas, that never happened.
     
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  24. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    Noobs
     
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  25. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    That's not even why the game is bad. Once you start noticing the blatant copy-pasta and repetition, you'll understand. It's a pretty unimaginative cashgrab, which stands in stark contrast to the first game which despite all its shortcomings is held together primarily by the sheer creativity of many combat scenarios (barring the weaker, later chapters which still have a few good fights)
     
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