The Dark Eye Blackguards - turn-based tactical RPG set in The Dark Eye world

[Piotrovitz]

Finally beat those dorfs, took maybe three or four attempts.

So far it seems like the magic system is similar to majority of cRPGs, i.e DD spells are shit, buffs/debuffs are king.

 

[V_K]

So far it seems like the magic system is similar to majority of cRPGs, i.e DD spells are shit, buffs/debuffs are king.

Typically, it's even more so in TDE in general. I think BG actually upped the usefulness of damage spells. In Realms of Arkania, e.g., you would barely ever use them.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Yeah, it's way worse here, for example, some damage spells gets AoE at some level, starting with a cone radius.

Yet, that cone radius (D&D burning hands style) is stopped by any fucking pebble on its way, it's just retarded, like a 20 centimeters height difference would stop it...

Still a good game in spite of this but really, what were they thinking?

 

[Jvegi]

It's 1$ on steam sale now, just bought it. Perhaps I'll even play it some day.

 

[Grunker]

You should. It is excellent.

 

[cvv]

So first of all, why the fuck have I waited so long to play this. Jesus christ this game is good.

In chapter 2 now and I summon the hivemind for a few tips:

1) Everything but basic bitch mobs are dodging/parrying quite often, what's the best way to deal with that? Manual says Courage and Agility are the determinant attributes for Base Attack but raising attributes is very expensive at the start, is it better to pump weapon talents first? Is there a hit-chance buff spell in the game?

2) Spell fizzle pissing me off. Maybe I'm blind but there's nothing about the fizzle mechanics in the manual and I just can't into this shit so much. Any way to curtail this annoying effect?

3) Hit chance percentage you can see when mousing over a mob seems wonky. Does is include all the modifiers? I'm missing a suspiciously large number of 60-70% hits and I think it's related to enemy resistances that I can't see (yet?).

4) What's the general lay of the land levelling-wise? Attributes first or weapon talents or special talents or something else?

5) Blackguards 2 are a single buck on Steam rn. Should I buy? Rox wasn't so cheery about it, is it really such a decline? I can get over some decline since I really love this formula but not too much.

 

[V_K]

1) Everything but basic bitch mobs are dodging/parrying quite often, what's the best way to deal with that?

Gang up on one enemy. It's TDE, so everyone only gets one parry per round.

 

[Sweeper]

So first of all, why the fuck have I waited so long to play this. Jesus christ this game is good.

In chapter 2 now and I summon the hivemind for a few tips:

1) Everything but basic bitch mobs are dodging/parrying quite often, what's the best way to deal with that? Manual says Courage and Agility are the determinant attributes for Base Attack but raising attributes is very expensive at the start, is it better to pump weapon talents first? Is there a hit-chance buff spell in the game?

Weapon skill is the first thing you should max imo. There is a hit chance buff spell for both melee and ranged but you don't get access to the teacher until chapter 3 IIRC.

2) Spell fizzle pissing me off. Maybe I'm blind but there's nothing about the fizzle mechanics in the manual and I just can't into this shit so much. Any way to curtail this annoying effect?

You either raise the spell level or get the special ability that reduces the chances of fizzle, it's got pretty steep attribute requirements though.

3) Hit chance percentage you can see when mousing over a mob seems wonky. Does is include all the modifiers? I'm missing a suspiciously large number of 60-70% hits and I think it's related to enemy resistances that I can't see (yet?).

That's been my experience as well. I can't tell you how many times I've had 3-4 missed attacks one after the other with 80% hit chance. It prolly has something to do with the parry system. Focus your melee/ranged attacks on one target I guess.

4) What's the general lay of the land levelling-wise? Attributes first or weapon talents or special talents or something else?

Weapon talents definitely. I played the game saving AP and spending it only when I absolutely needed to. Long story short pure warriors by the end game have so much AP you can actually max out 2 or more weapon skills along with phys attributes and weapon abilities.

 

[toro]

5) Blackguards 2 are a single buck on Steam rn. Should I buy? Rox wasn't so cheery about it, is it really such a decline? I can get over some decline since I really love this formula but not too much.

Blackguard 2 is a disappointment.

That being said, buy it and check it out for yourself.

 

[anvi]

I liked bg2

 

[ERYFKRAD]

is it better to pump weapon talents first

When you do, you have the option of changing the weightage between attacking and parrying. Emphasize attacking if you're having real trouble hitting things.

 

[Darth Canoli]

5) Blackguards 2 are a single buck on Steam rn. Should I buy? Rox wasn't so cheery about it, is it really such a decline? I can get over some decline since I really love this formula but not too much.

Just buy it but don't play it right after Blackguards 1.
It's not as good as the original but still worth playing once if you really liked the first.

It's a shame they couldn't improve the formula, would have been epic.

 

[cvv]

Jesus christ Chapter 2 sucks big hairy balls.

P.S. I just realized I picked the wrong chars for the 2nd gladiator fight and the game already autosaved after the 1st fight and my closest quicksave is all the way back in Chapter 1 before the big annoying fights with lizard dudes.

Dear developers, choke on my big fat dick you fucking cretins.

 

[Lhynn]

Blaggards 2 is shit, couldnt stomach a single mission. Just play the first one, which is pretty lenghty, then move on to something else.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Jesus christ Chapter 2 sucks big hairy balls.

why do you lie

I just realized I picked the wrong chars for the 2nd gladiator fight and the game already autosaved after the 1st fight and my closest quicksave is all the way back in Chapter 1 before the big annoying fights with lizard dudes.

Dear developers, kiss my fucking arse.

ah, that's why

save early, save often

 

[Darth Canoli]

Blaggards 2 is shit, couldnt stomach a single mission. Just play the first one, which is pretty lenghty, then move on to something else.

That's your mistake, if you can endure it for a couple of hours, it grows on you.

 

[anvi]

If you like the first one, the second one is mostly an expansion.

 

[Grunker]

5) Blackguards 2 are a single buck on Steam rn. Should I buy? Rox wasn't so cheery about it, is it really such a decline? I can get over some decline since I really love this formula but not too much.

I haven't even finished it, and the original was my Game of the Decade. Should tell you everything about how terrible it is.

Blaggards 2 is shit, couldnt stomach a single mission. Just play the first one, which is pretty lenghty, then move on to something else.

That's your mistake, if you can endure it for a couple of hours, it grows on you.

What's with the BG2 apologists coming out of the woodwork. Begone ye fools

 

[Grunker]

Jesus christ Chapter 2 sucks big hairy balls.

why do you lie

I just realized I picked the wrong chars for the 2nd gladiator fight and the game already autosaved after the 1st fight and my closest quicksave is all the way back in Chapter 1 before the big annoying fights with lizard dudes.

Dear developers, kiss my fucking arse.

ah, that's why

save early, save often

Tbf the game is p. b0rken like that. But yes

 

[anvi]

Make sure you are using SpeedHack, otherwise you are just wasting your life.

 

[RPK]

bought this game for like a dollar last night after seeing this thread get bumped. having lots of fun so far!

 

[cvv]

OMG now I understand the hate for B2. I could get over the whole new "a gimmick for every fight" schtick, if the game didn't force me to "outwit" the battles in the most annoying, frustrating and unfun ways imaginable, usually running from mobs, avoiding them or pressing levers in awkward places. What is this gimmicky, gamey nonsense? Just give us normal, good ol' fashined turn based fighting for chrissake.

Got as far as the fight with the dozen trees and the druid in the swamp and uninstalled shortly after. Christ on a bike, good thing I bought this for like a dollar.

 

[Abu Antar]

OMG now I understand the hate for B2. I could get over the whole new "a gimmick for every fight" schtick, if the game didn't force me to "outwit" the battles in the most annoying, frustrating and unfun ways imaginable, usually running from mobs, avoiding them or pressing levers in awkward places. What is this gimmicky, gamey nonsense? Just give us normal, good ol' fashined turn based fighting for chrissake.

Got as far as the fight with the dozen trees and the druid in the swamp and uninstalled shortly after. Christ on a bike, good thing I bought this for like a dollar.

I lasted 18 hours. Most of it was me forcing myself to keep going. Then, I just had enough and unistalled the game. I wanted to like it, I really did. Alas, that never happened.

 

[anvi]

Noobs

 

[Grunker]

OMG now I understand the hate for B2. I could get over the whole new "a gimmick for every fight" schtick, if the game didn't force me to "outwit" the battles in the most annoying, frustrating and unfun ways imaginable, usually running from mobs, avoiding them or pressing levers in awkward places. What is this gimmicky, gamey nonsense? Just give us normal, good ol' fashined turn based fighting for chrissake.

Got as far as the fight with the dozen trees and the druid in the swamp and uninstalled shortly after. Christ on a bike, good thing I bought this for like a dollar.

That's not even why the game is bad. Once you start noticing the blatant copy-pasta and repetition, you'll understand. It's a pretty unimaginative cashgrab, which stands in stark contrast to the first game which despite all its shortcomings is held together primarily by the sheer creativity of many combat scenarios (barring the weaker, later chapters which still have a few good fights)