CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Robber Baron]

Outer Worlds fanboys

 

[Fedora Master]

How many codexers are honest enough to acknowledge that Fallout 4 is objectively a much better open world action game with some RPG elements than Cyberpunk 2077 is?

CP2077 certainly does some things far better than Fallout 4, like the writing, but the vast majority of the game systems or aspects they share are in Fallout 4's favor.

Especially if you are doing a day 1 release version to a day 1 release version comparison of the two.

I think many will struggle with being able to set aside their extreme anti-Bethesda bias (often exaggerated in posts for bonus kodex kool kredits) to achieve the level of objective honesty to do so.

The C&C is better in CP and the rpg systems are both utter shit.

 

[Yosharian]

Well, uninstalled. Revisit it in a year's time when it's been bugfixed... and balanced, hopefully. Glad I got it on discount.

Back to Underrail!

 

[Fedora Master]

Well, uninstalled. Revisit it in a year's time when it's been bugfixed... and balanced, hopefully. Glad I got it on discount.

Back to Underrail!

Stop buying games sight unseen. It's completely unnecessary and only justifies the low standards the industry has. If people didn't rush to get into early access trash developers might need to actually have some quality control instead of leaning back and "fixing it later"

 

[Tyranicon]

Well, uninstalled. Revisit it in a year's time when it's been bugfixed... and balanced, hopefully. Glad I got it on discount.

Back to Underrail!

Stop buying games sight unseen. It's completely unnecessary and only justifies the low standards the industry has. If people didn't rush to get into early access trash developers might need to actually have some quality control instead of leaning back and "fixing it later"

Yeah, that ship has sailed. Despite how the prestigious elites of codex vote with their wallets, AAA publishers are moving full steam forward with all games being released in defacto early access.

A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game gets preorders, and when you have 8 million preorders then you have "fuck you" money.

 

[Fenix]

Apparently in Cyberpunk the engrams are actually "souls", the real deal, like cortical stacks in Altered Carbon

Cortical or not it's not the soul. Soul is immortal.

 

[KVVRR]

Then you realize there's only like 3 sex options for hetero males and one is the most sterotypical thai mystery hooker I've ever seen.

Thats 3 more than Outer worlds has.

The worst thing about the whole CP2077 fiasco is that Outer Worlds fanboys are rising up and saying how their game is better in every way.

Being better than one shit doesn't mean you're still not shit.

Man, Cyberpunk may not be the best game in the world but a game really needs to be ultra shit to get to Outer Worlds level, by what I played, it is retardred edgyness to compare Cyberbug 76 with that pile of garbage.

Outer Worlds is not shit. It's epitome of mediocrity. Even disappointment after its release was... mediocre. Cyberpunk is completely opposite -

Nah, Cyberpunk's not garbo. There is a game beneath all the half baked systems and a very good city/world/characters to explore. I certainly enjoyed Night City a hell of a lot more than Byzantium.

 

[Reinhardt]

"fuck you"

In case of Sony - literally.

 

[Readher]

Apparently in Cyberpunk the engrams are actually "souls", the real deal, like cortical stacks in Altered Carbon, so it's not a conciousness problem. in the

Spoiler

ending where Alt uses Soulkiller on you, V doesn't even know that she is already an engram until Johnny tells her. You can actually see when an Engram is made from a dead person who has no "soul" - Jackie was copied by Arasaka after he died, and his engram is just stuck on a loop of repeating phrases.

Spoiler

Indeed. The latest development allows for transfers with consciousness intact. The problem then becomes tissue compatibility with a new body. It's why Hanako says "It's not quite the same" or something to that effect when you ask her to show Jackie after talking to Saburo. One is the real deal, while the other is a copy made from incomplete data.

Spoiler

Saburo Arasaka - we learn in Arasaka endings, that he had preemptively made a copy of himself as an engram stored in Mikoshi, before being strangled by Yorinobu. How does it work?

Spoiler

The copy didn't have to be made before his death. Remember, it takes some time for brain to die and Saburo was strangled, not had his brain severed by a katana. Trauma Team was there in less than 3 minutes and I'm sure they had special instructions for handling Saburo, which means they most likely got his mind with consciousness intact to Mikoshi one way or another.

 

[Justicar]

Then you realize there's only like 3 sex options for hetero males and one is the most sterotypical thai mystery hooker I've ever seen.

Thats 3 more than Outer worlds has.

The worst thing about the whole CP2077 fiasco is that Outer Worlds fanboys are rising up and saying how their game is better in every way.

Being better than one shit doesn't mean you're still not shit.

Man, Cyberpunk may not be the best game in the world but a game really needs to be ultra shit to get to Outer Worlds level, by what I played, it is retardred edgyness to compare Cyberbug 76 with that pile of garbage.

Outer Worlds is not shit. It's epitome of mediocrity. Even disappointment after its release was... mediocre. Cyberpunk is completely opposite -

You trippin balls negro.

 

[Fedora Master]

Apparently in Cyberpunk the engrams are actually "souls", the real deal, like cortical stacks in Altered Carbon

Cortical or not it's not the soul. Soul is immortal.

Depends entirely on the definition.
A soul can be defined as nothing more than the sum of a person's thoughts and emotions.

 

[Reinhardt]

Apparently in Cyberpunk the engrams are actually "souls", the real deal, like cortical stacks in Altered Carbon

Cortical or not it's not the soul. Soul is immortal.

Depends entirely on the definition.
A soul can be defined as nothing more than the sum of a person's thoughts and emotions.

So it's PoE thread now?

 

[Fenix]

What happens when you go to sleep? Do the current instantiation of you die just because you go lose consciousness?

If you are put under anesthesia, get cloned down to the the subatomic level and then only the clone wakes up, what then?

A clone wouldn't know he's a clone, living the original's life as usual. Maybe my original iteration is screaming in its frozen hell while I am typing this. I cannot know until this iteration is replaced with another.

I think even the clone won't be living the life original lived. Unevitable there will be difference, that will be bigger and bigger with time.
If clone know he is clone, difference would be drastic.

 

[Danikas]

Gman review is good never cared for the other guy so I wont bother watching.

 

[kreight]

People have short memory

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jWtz3rzco

 

[ADL]

Mack is a true RPG connoisseur. You should watch him.

Outer Worlds fanboys

Do these actually exist?

 

[Zer0wing]

How many codexers are honest enough to acknowledge that Fallout 4 is objectively a much better open world action game with some RPG elements than Cyberpunk 2077 is?

Like what? Even rpg system in CP2077 is more sophisticated than what vanilla Fallout 4 has to offer. Oh, right. PYORKS!!!1 MUH CRAFTEENG!!!1 OK you won...

 

[Tyranicon]

People have short memory

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jWtz3rzco

What do you want? For everyone to be a discerning and informed consumer?

 

[user]

You can't ask a shill to post anything that's negative. So asking Infinitron is not a good move. He is crying in pain. He only posts positive things he can shill for.

It would be good for more people to know what is usually going on behind the scenes and that devs and their Cyberpunk ducttape work are also the victims of crunch, stupid deadlines, financial projections, illiterate people who interpret statistics and, in general, mismanagement, which is the case most of the time when this kind of shit happens.

 

[Riddler]

A question for the people who played the game:

Is it realistic for them to actually fix the issues in 6-12months? A lot of issues seem very fundamental, like the AI etc.

Wouldn't you kind of have to completely rework multiple major system in the game for this to work?

 

[Danikas]

Like what? Even rpg system in CP2077 is more sophisticated than what vanilla Fallout 4 has to offer. Oh, right. PYORKS!!!1 OK you won...

Not to mention writing, characters, quests, music, gunplay, graphical fidelity, facial animations etc.

 

[Tyranicon]

How many codexers are honest enough to acknowledge that Fallout 4 is objectively a much better open world action game with some RPG elements than Cyberpunk 2077 is?

Like what? Even rpg system in CP2077 is more sophisticated than what vanilla Fallout 4 has to offer. Oh, right. PYORKS!!!1 OK you won...

Fallout 4 didn't make my hetero male V scissor a thai mystery hooker, so I'm gonna give this one to the Bethesda.

A question for the people who played the game:

Is it realistic for them to actually fix the issues in 6-12months?

 

[Zer0wing]

Fallout 4 didn't make my hetero male V scissor a thai mystery hooker, so I'm gonna give this one to the Bethesda.

IDK, Meredith looks european enough to me.

YEAH YEAH, I know what hooker you are talking about, that's unfortunate that there's so little to hook up with considering the overabundance of in-game sex ads.

 

[J_C]

How many codexers are honest enough to acknowledge that Fallout 4 is objectively a much better open world action game with some RPG elements than Cyberpunk 2077 is?

Like what? Even rpg system in CP2077 is more sophisticated than what vanilla Fallout 4 has to offer. Oh, right. PYORKS!!!1 OK you won...

Fallout 4 didn't make my hetero male V scissor a thai mystery hooker,

You are saying this like this is a good thing.

 

[Danikas]

A question for the people who played the game:

Is it realistic for them to actually fix the issues in 6-12months? A lot of issues seem very fundamental, like the AI etc.

Wouldn't you kind of have to completely rework multiple major system in the game for this to work?

Bugs: yes
Adding new Ai systems: Doubtful they will fix performance of the old consoles first and that will take time, maybe if enough people bitch about lack of driving ai they will try to do it but I dont believe they are even capable of doing it.