CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Twiglard]

The amount of weird stuff happening onscreen cannot possibly be fixed in a patch or two. The entire game code is a ticking time bomb. If the game cannot retrieve an asset or a script fast enough from the mass storage, the entire system go bonkers. The PC saving grace is having a fast SSD but I'm sure that I'll be seeing the same if I were running the game on a PC with a traditional hard disk.

Nah. The game works fine on an HDD even if it's overloaded. No crashes, at worst assets pop-up. The game is full of glitches, but only few crashes and game-breaking bugs are of that variety that you know to reload immediately.

I really don't get people still using HDDs for gaming in CURRENT_YEAR.

Depends on the game, but in general you can get away with it having lots of RAM. In Cyberpunk, loading assets still takes many CPU cores and an SSD won't help against that.

 

[Bliblablubb]

I do get the occasional T-pose NPC

The occiasional T-pose isn't really a problem for me normally, for game on that scale it's impossible to rule that out, most of the time hunting for that bug is simply not worth the time.

It does become a problem for me however when, after seeing other players play the game, I notice that apparently EVERYONE gets the T-pose guy in front of Afterlife. A reproducable bug most, if not all playtester would have had there, yet it was not fixed.

And then it becomes insulting to me.

 

[Perkel]

Are we seriously discussing how sincere a CEO of a publicly traded company (recently experienced a sharp drop in stock price) has been in a "message to players"?

I doubt they care about their stock. They are basically back to january 2020

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

It sure opened my eyes about T-posting. I never heard the term before. Now its everywhere....

 

[AwesomeButton]

I doubt they care about their stock. They are basically back to january 2020

I'm not tying the question to the stock drop, that's just context.

My guess is this message was meant to inspire confidence in the console audience, warm them up in advance of an update which will put the game back on the playstation store. This is CDPR's real and highest priority - getting the game back on the playstation store. It's not placating PC gamers. So we shouldn't read things into it that are not there.

 

[DeepOcean]

I'm sure that I'll be seeing the same if I were running the game on a PC with a traditional hard disk.

If you do that in 2021, you deserve the bad experience. There are many faults with this game, but the devs expecting people to not use ancient hardware in this day and age is perfectly reasonable. There is a reason why SSD is in the recommended system requirements.

I really don't get people still using HDDs for gaming in CURRENT_YEAR.

SSDs became affordable a decade back, and even with older slower SSDs, the difference was night and day.

"Affordable", here they cost three times the price of an HDD and with exception of system loading, it doesnt make any difference to wait one extra minute or so during game loading, Cyberbug loads fast anyway. Most people here buy a cheaper one just to load windows and use an HDD to install games, you need to sell your kidneys to buy a 1tb SSD. I didnt have any problems with asset loading on my HDD when I started playing but I started having problems after patch 1.05, before, the game loaded assets super fast but I notice the glitch of having PS1 like characters walking around , entire buildings, cars and NPCs never loaded their full assets with a certain frequency after that patch.

I think they messed up with the asset streaming on PC because of the consoles, I'm pretty sure I wasnt having that problem before patch 1.05. Also, saw a few streamers with beast rigs having this problem of asset loading,maybe shit hardware makes it worse but CDPR code definitely is a piece of crap .

 

[Haplo]

I'm sure that I'll be seeing the same if I were running the game on a PC with a traditional hard disk.

If you do that in 2021, you deserve the bad experience. There are many faults with this game, but the devs expecting people to not use ancient hardware in this day and age is perfectly reasonable. There is a reason why SSD is in the recommended system requirements.

I really don't get people still using HDDs for gaming in CURRENT_YEAR.

SSDs became affordable a decade back, and even with older slower SSDs, the difference was night and day.

"Affordable", here they cost three times the price of an HDD and with exception of system loading, it doesnt make any difference to wait one extra minute or so during game loading, Cyberbug loads fast anyway. Most people here buy a cheaper one just to load windows and use an HDD to install games, you need to sell your kidneys to buy a 1tb SSD. I didnt have any problems with asset loading on my HDD when I started playing but I started having problems after patch 1.05, before, the game loaded assets super fast but I notice the glitch of having PS1 like characters walking around , entire buildings, cars and NPCs never loaded their full assets with a certain frequency.

I think they messed up with the asset streaming on PC because of the consoles, I'm pretty sure I wasnt having that problem before patch 1.05. Also, saw a few streamers with beast rigs having this problem of asset loading.

Why would you need a 1TB SSD? Buy a 256-540 MB one, uninstall games you don't play. Simple.
Buy a bigger HDD to archive media (photos, films).

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Well you can get a
SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B) for about $860 from Amazon.

eh... ok its not quality and a 2T is what a few hundred? They're going down.

 

[DeepOcean]

Why would you need a 1TB SSD? Buy a 256-540 MB one, uninstall games you don't play. Simple.
Buy a bigger HDD to archive media (photos, films).

Didnt fit on my meager budget, had to sacrifice something and storage space was more important for me, maybe on the future I will buy one of 256 after the hardware prices return to acceptable levels here but I didnt see much of a point as pretty much 99,9% of games dont need a SSD for them to not fall apart, CDPR is cleary innovating here.

 

[Necroscope]

I'm sure that I'll be seeing the same if I were running the game on a PC with a traditional hard disk.

If you do that in 2021, you deserve the bad experience. There are many faults with this game, but the devs expecting people to not use ancient hardware in this day and age is perfectly reasonable. There is a reason why SSD is in the recommended system requirements.

I really don't get people still using HDDs for gaming in CURRENT_YEAR.

SSDs became affordable a decade back, and even with older slower SSDs, the difference was night and day.

"Affordable", here they cost three times the price of an HDD and with exception of system loading, it doesnt make any difference to wait one extra minute or so during game loading, Cyberbug loads fast anyway. Most people here buy a cheaper one just to load windows and use an HDD to install games, you need to sell your kidneys to buy a 1tb SSD.

I bought a Samsung T5 recently (SSD 2TB) which cost me around $300. Definitely not affordable, but it was a worthy investment (for my music collection). My system SSD is only 223 GB, so I've always used my HDD for games indeed.

 

[DeepOcean]

I bought a Samsung T5 recently (SSD 2TB) which cost me around $300. Definitely not affordable, but it was a worthy investment (for my music collection). My system SSD is only 223 GB, so I've always used my HDD for games indeed.

300 dollars, one is actually 2000 reais for me and no, we brazillians dont earn six to seven times of what an american does, thanks to our corrupt socialist goverment. Guess Commiefornia and the rest of the US will soon taste what true socialism feels like.

 

[Haplo]

Why would you need a 1TB SSD? Buy a 256-540 MB one, uninstall games you don't play. Simple.
Buy a bigger HDD to archive media (photos, films).

Didnt fit on my meager budget, had to sacrifice something and storage space was more important for me, maybe on the future I will buy one of 256 after the hardware prices return to acceptable levels here but I didnt see much of a point as pretty much 99,9% of games dont need a SSD for them to not fall apart, CDPR is cleary innovating here.

Well, usually I mostly play isometric cRPGs, often with area transitions (often 1 minute on a HDD) after entering every fricking door. Or after leaving every tiny area. Cannot count the numerous hours of the loading time the SSD has saved me. Not to mention these games are simply far less irritating -> therefore more fun with faster loads.

 

[Readher]

SSD isn't just about faster loading times between levels or whatever. It's also about streaming assets which requires higher bandwidth the higher quality they are and the more of them present. Open world games with high quality textures are the first to stutter on HDDs, especially older ones.

1TB SSDs were $100 during Black Friday in my shithole (Crucial MX500), that's certainly within affordable region for vast majority of people playing games, especially if you have hardware capable of running latest AAA releases.

 

[typical user]

Still the game was supposed to be released on PS4 and Xbox One which use HDD. I have the game installed on HDD and it barely holds together when I ride my black Caliburn through Corpo-Plaza or Heywood. Most of the scripts break. The game needs some serious overhaul of streaming data if riding at full speed can break UI or multiple scripts.

GTA V when I have Chrome opened with 10 tabs will stop loading traffic, stop loading textures (but keep collisions), it will postpone all phone-calls, won't allow changing weapons and it will take as much time as needed in loading screen to ensure everything is loaded correctly. CP2077 allows to close loading screens even when not all objects have been fully loaded. When it has trouble loading data it can force 2 characters to call you at the same time and have V play two different dialog voicelines (what impressed me was the fact the dialog UI adapted and I could see reply options for both characters at the same time instead of application crash). The most obvious is V's car during the montage which appears in low LOD and morphs in front of your eyes.

On the side note I am both impressed and baffled the game uses it's resources to render in real time characters on phone-calls or non-interactive cutscenes. Like why do that, waste precious resources on stuff which always uses same lighting, weather etc.

 

[ChildInTime]

I already posted Oda, but it turns out that even

Spoiler

Smasher

has unique stealth takedown animations, that's some attention to detail.

Spoiler

 

[IThinkTheWorldShouldBurn.]

On the side note I am both impressed and baffled the game uses it's resources to render in real time characters on phone-calls or non-interactive cutscenes. Like why do that, waste precious resources on stuff which always uses same lighting, weather etc.

They screwed that feature too.. the 'video box' originally showed their own background, now it's just black.

..but at the end of the day CDPR showed their true colours when W3 came out, that was shredded also and there was the same kind, although not amount, of criticism at the time about that.... It's W3 all over again except 100x worse.

That wasn't an apology, it was a misdirection change of narrative.

"We're happy with the game on PC".. well your customers aren't asshole.

Plus the fact that it's only bugs they are concerned about when there is fuck all to do in the "RPG" except shoot someone in the face, because they shredded the bloody thing.

CDPR can go fuck themselves from now on as far as I'm concerned.. even if they do release something in the future that I want to play.. I'm not paying for it.

 

[moon knight]

 

[IThinkTheWorldShouldBurn.]

That kind of bullshit is all over the place.. it usually signifies something that was torn out. It was probably supposed to be a braindance , when we were getting that kind of game... but then we got a GTA looter shooter... Fuck CDPR, right in the ear.

They spent eight years sucking my dick, only to spit it all back into my face.

 

[MasPingon]

Somebody is really butthurt.

Never forget to take your meds boys.

You really are confused child. First you stalk me after I wrote about how Cyberpunk is a bad game, giving me even more retarded ratings in every post you could find and now you crying that I spend 15 minutes to give you your rating back. What an ungrateful cuck. Do you think I don't have anything else to do in work?

 

[just]

this battle of retarded buttons storyline is more interesting than cp story
i wonder what will happen next

 

[compvet24]

I am still managing to have fun with this game now and then. Feels like all of the 8 years of work went into the map, which is the best looking game I've really ever seen. Actual game is complete shite, I liked it at the start but it is too repetitive.. yet has some qualities that make it enjoyable for maybe a few weeks, then maybe some revisits in the future.

 

[ChildInTime]

 

[Necroscope]

That wasn't an apology, it was a misdirection change of narrative.

"We're happy with the game on PC".. well your customers aren't asshole.

It's damage control uttered in a typical, corporate language. The guy looks scary, like he's being held hostage by terrorists who forced him to record this video.

 

[Mefi]

Still the game was supposed to be released on PS4 and Xbox One which use HDD. I have the game installed on HDD and it barely holds together when I ride my black Caliburn through Corpo-Plaza or Heywood. Most of the scripts break. The game needs some serious overhaul of streaming data if riding at full speed can break UI or multiple scripts.

GTA V when I have Chrome opened with 10 tabs will stop loading traffic, stop loading textures (but keep collisions), it will postpone all phone-calls, won't allow changing weapons and it will take as much time as needed in loading screen to ensure everything is loaded correctly. CP2077 allows to close loading screens even when not all objects have been fully loaded. When it has trouble loading data it can force 2 characters to call you at the same time and have V play two different dialog voicelines (what impressed me was the fact the dialog UI adapted and I could see reply options for both characters at the same time instead of application crash). The most obvious is V's car during the montage which appears in low LOD and morphs in front of your eyes.

On the side note I am both impressed and baffled the game uses it's resources to render in real time characters on phone-calls or non-interactive cutscenes. Like why do that, waste precious resources on stuff which always uses same lighting, weather etc.

Game's held together with sticky back plastic. Really wouldn't surprise me if the mythologised cut content was cut purely because having it functional would have finally caused everything to fall over. I have it installed on a decent SSD and the idea that its purely HDD with issues would seem flawed, to put it kindly. I've tried it on a 1600x + 1080sc and a 5600x + 1080sc (waiting on a 3080 as I prefer to play at 1440p) and both have the same issues as you do with how the game is loading on the go. Particularly noticeable with things like the overlay on the roads for rain when you're going at any pace but elsewhere too.

 

[Takamori]

Regarding the apology video its more of a video directed to their investor board for due diligence reasons, tell then they are working on rebuilding their rep. If it was consumer directed video it would be way more transparent and not going sideways with some negative aspects of the game in the core design.
In any way shape or form gonna wait either December 2021 or Jan 2022 to replay this game. See if they can shovel the pile of shit they stuck in the game.