CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Crispy]

Flatlined.

 

[Myobi]

The problem with shit like "bullying", or "racism" and "oppression" is that everyone wants a bite of it.

Call someone a cunt via internet and the mother fucker will be writing a 7-page essay about “cyber bullying” on some gay ass social media website, it feels like the kid who cried wolf, except it’s the entire village crying wolf instead of the little shitty kid.

 

[Paul_cz]

I wonder how bad the "bullying" was. Probably all the americans they hired crying

He made some offensive jokes or something.

Or maybe he is a total asshole who screams profanities at people and punches them in the dick and vag when they're not expecting it.

But probably the former.

 

[Tyrr]

Now I want to watch a 'The Office'-like documentary about the CP2077 development.

 

[tritosine2k]

lol

lmao there is a whole subreddit commited to hating TAA

Personally I much prefer image stability, so in the absence of DLSS I would always use TAA. Hell, most modern engines (and games) have assets built with TAA in mind and look borderline broken without it, which is why it cannot be disabled in Cyberpunk.
DLSS is similar, but its latest version actually provides (in some respects) superior image while giving a nice performance boost.

There s much more to this than blur/ fuzz/ haze .
There are halo-s and halation everywhere because screen space stuff breaking left and right, can't handle fog/ transparency, and TAA / DLSS is another one of those. Halation would be more obvious with clean edges.

 

[copebot]

DLSS is the killer feature part of RTX, with the actual RT part being sort of shit and only good for tech demos. Some of the earliest DLSS implementations were janky but most of the recent mainstream ones have been spot on.

 

[gerey]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...or-leaves-embattled-game-developer-cd-projekt

I wonder how bad the "bullying" was. Probably all the americans they hired crying

By this time next year there won't be a single competent person left at CDRP, just the narcissistic management and the woke cult of subhuman degenerates they surrounded themselves with.

They've been bleeding talent since before the release of Witcher 3, and it's only gotten worse over time. The end result of this brain drain was Cyberpunk 2077, and I can't imagine things will improve in the future.

 

[Tyrr]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...or-leaves-embattled-game-developer-cd-projekt

I wonder how bad the "bullying" was. Probably all the americans they hired crying

By this time next year there won't be a single competent person left at CDRP, just the narcissistic management and the woke cult of subhuman degenerates they surrounded themselves with.

They've been bleeding talent since before the release of Witcher 3, and it's only gotten worse over time. The end result of this brain drain was Cyberpunk 2077, and I can't imagine things will improve in the future.

I can see them going the Bethesda route and re-re-release Witcher 3, like they do with Skyrim. Maybe even remaster Witcher 1&2.

 

[Gargaune]

I can see them going the Bethesda route and re-re-release Witcher 3, like they do with Skyrim.

You're half-right, CDPR has been working on a Witcher 3 re-release for PS5, Xbox Series Too Many X's and PC with technical improvements and raytracing. The difference is it'll be a free update for those who already bought the full Witcher 3 package. I think it was last rumoured for this year, but who knows now.

Edit: Actually, I misremembered, there is no difference, Bethesda also gave Skyrim SE away for free to people who already owned Skyrim and all its DLC.

 

[Paul_cz]

DLSS is the killer feature part of RTX

true

RT part being sort of shit and only good for tech demos

false

 

[cvv]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...or-leaves-embattled-game-developer-cd-projekt

I wonder how bad the "bullying" was. Probably all the americans they hired crying

By this time next year there won't be a single competent person left at CDRP, just the narcissistic management and the woke cult of subhuman degenerates they surrounded themselves with.

Vavra from Warhorse just posted on FB Tomaszkiewicz was a chill boss, according to his buddies from CDPR. Apparently CDPR changed a lot with veterans leaving and New Blood (TM) arriving, it stopped being a creatively free place where you could speak openly. He said "any creative effort this big and this expensive involves creative differences" and people sometimes freaking out and arguing and making fools of themselves.

Yeah, no kidding, it's called "being human". Personally I'm not concerned about this dude's future, I bet he already has a dozen offers, very hush hush obviously.

 

[Quillon]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...or-leaves-embattled-game-developer-cd-projekt

I wonder how bad the "bullying" was. Probably all the americans they hired crying

damn, watching/reading his interviews was the highlights of W3 hype days for me, he didn't look the type to "bully" anyone tho

this was the dude who rose very quickly from tester to game director with his design inputs, big loss probably. replace him with an incompetent fuck who has the "right" views and attitude CDPR, that's the way! down

might be awkward for his brother now but he was pretty woke, should be safe to continue working

then again he was the lead of the "open world team" responsible for CP's filler content which sucked, albeit the team was formed late in development and prolly didn't have enough time

 

[Paul_cz]

The Vávra post

When you make the best game ever, and then some underling accuses you of bullying, the company you made billions for investigates you for months, nothing is proven, but you leave anyway, and you apologize for something you didn't do along the way, because you're effectively unemployable from now on, so at least you hope that if you sprinkle ashes on your head (idiom, english alternative is eat humble pie), they'll let you live out somewhere and won't witchhunt you. New age.
The end of the creative industry...
I have a couple of friends in CDP, and they said he was a cool guy. All the while talking about how with the arrival of new young staff, the era of being able to tell some jokes openly is over and apparently a normal creative argument is considered bullying.
It is quite common in creative work where there is a lot of stress, it takes a long time, there is a lot going on and there are a lot of different people working there with different opinions and visions that these people argue, shout at each other and sometimes act like jerks. To fire (or force to leave) a man who was the director of one of the best games of all time because of this is indeed "fascinating"...
I'm curious to see how someone new who is friends with everyone and never offends anyone at work will handle this.
And please, this all happened in Poland, where they drink even more than we do and the most popular word is kurwa, not in the US.
I recommend reading some making off on how some cult films and other works of art were made. A nice example is Apocalypse Now. Coppolla would end up in jail today and never make anything else.

 

[Gerrard]

 

[racofer]

Reminder that this is still a thing:

 

[Comrade Goby]

The Vávra post

When you make the best game ever, and then some underling accuses you of bullying, the company you made billions for investigates you for months, nothing is proven, but you leave anyway, and you apologize for something you didn't do along the way, because you're effectively unemployable from now on, so at least you hope that if you sprinkle ashes on your head (idiom, english alternative is eat humble pie), they'll let you live out somewhere and won't witchhunt you. New age.
The end of the creative industry...
I have a couple of friends in CDP, and they said he was a cool guy. All the while talking about how with the arrival of new young staff, the era of being able to tell some jokes openly is over and apparently a normal creative argument is considered bullying.
It is quite common in creative work where there is a lot of stress, it takes a long time, there is a lot going on and there are a lot of different people working there with different opinions and visions that these people argue, shout at each other and sometimes act like jerks. To fire (or force to leave) a man who was the director of one of the best games of all time because of this is indeed "fascinating"...
I'm curious to see how someone new who is friends with everyone and never offends anyone at work will handle this.
And please, this all happened in Poland, where they drink even more than we do and the most popular word is kurwa, not in the US.
I recommend reading some making off on how some cult films and other works of art were made. A nice example is Apocalypse Now. Coppolla would end up in jail today and never make anything else.

Where was this posted? Also who is still staying at CDPR? Pawel seems like a fake nice western type traitor so makes sense he'd stay. It does seem like all the people who work there are basically Californian in thought now

 

[toro]

The Vávra post

When you make the best game ever, and then some underling accuses you of bullying, the company you made billions for investigates you for months, nothing is proven, but you leave anyway, and you apologize for something you didn't do along the way, because you're effectively unemployable from now on, so at least you hope that if you sprinkle ashes on your head (idiom, english alternative is eat humble pie), they'll let you live out somewhere and won't witchhunt you. New age.
The end of the creative industry...
I have a couple of friends in CDP, and they said he was a cool guy. All the while talking about how with the arrival of new young staff, the era of being able to tell some jokes openly is over and apparently a normal creative argument is considered bullying.
It is quite common in creative work where there is a lot of stress, it takes a long time, there is a lot going on and there are a lot of different people working there with different opinions and visions that these people argue, shout at each other and sometimes act like jerks. To fire (or force to leave) a man who was the director of one of the best games of all time because of this is indeed "fascinating"...
I'm curious to see how someone new who is friends with everyone and never offends anyone at work will handle this.
And please, this all happened in Poland, where they drink even more than we do and the most popular word is kurwa, not in the US.
I recommend reading some making off on how some cult films and other works of art were made. A nice example is Apocalypse Now. Coppolla would end up in jail today and never make anything else.

Where was this posted? Also who is still staying at CDPR? Pawel seems like a fake nice western type traitor so makes sense he'd stay. It does seem like all the people who work there are basically Californian in thought now

Pawel is the Neil Druckmann of CDPR. He will stab his way to the top and then he will remake Witcher as SJW fan-fiction.

 

[Paul_cz]

Where was this posted? Also who is still staying at CDPR? Pawel seems like a fake nice western type traitor so makes sense he'd stay. It does seem like all the people who work there are basically Californian in thought now

on his FB

and if by Pawel you mean Sasko, I like his enthusiasm, frankly. And given how long he's been there, I doubt he's much into the western wokester coolaid.

 

[DeepOcean]

What I find hilarious is that for all their efforts of being massive cucks, the only thing CDPR got was this vermin Jason Scherier rounding around their creative decomposed carcasse crazy to grab some pieces of the body to gain notoriety.

 

[fork]

The Vávra post

When you make the best game ever, and then some underling accuses you of bullying, the company you made billions for investigates you for months, nothing is proven, but you leave anyway, and you apologize for something you didn't do along the way, because you're effectively unemployable from now on, so at least you hope that if you sprinkle ashes on your head (idiom, english alternative is eat humble pie), they'll let you live out somewhere and won't witchhunt you. New age.
The end of the creative industry...
I have a couple of friends in CDP, and they said he was a cool guy. All the while talking about how with the arrival of new young staff, the era of being able to tell some jokes openly is over and apparently a normal creative argument is considered bullying.
It is quite common in creative work where there is a lot of stress, it takes a long time, there is a lot going on and there are a lot of different people working there with different opinions and visions that these people argue, shout at each other and sometimes act like jerks. To fire (or force to leave) a man who was the director of one of the best games of all time because of this is indeed "fascinating"...
I'm curious to see how someone new who is friends with everyone and never offends anyone at work will handle this.
And please, this all happened in Poland, where they drink even more than we do and the most popular word is kurwa, not in the US.
I recommend reading some making off on how some cult films and other works of art were made. A nice example is Apocalypse Now. Coppolla would end up in jail today and never make anything else.

After decades of watching this shit become worse and worse ever faster, I still don't understand how all of this can actually happen. It must be humans are even worse, spineless and pathetic shit than I thought, but I already think quite lowly of them, so it really is a fucking mystery.

 

[Jabberwacky]

Was there ever a call on whether this was/is an RPG or not?

Also, is it stable enough to play on PC now or should avoid?

 

[DeepOcean]

They said it was a RPG.
Big boss decided for a crazy deadline, so they cut the RPG and removed the RPG from the description.
So, this is an action game with MMO RPG elements now.
It is stable enough on the PC, just dont expect more than cyber Far Cry with common graphical glitches and unfinished mechanics for some comic relief.

 

[tritosine2k]

DLSS has nothing to do with RTX , by all accounts it's using tensor cores not RT.

That's for the worse, because
https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/120656-nvidia-adds-ray-tracing-tech-temporal-anti-aliasing-taa/

as explained here, TAA "edges" can be touched up with ray tracing, and then the cost becomes comparable with ACTUAL anti aliasing.
Which on DLSS's part is not comparable, so how anyone expects correct (AA) output instead of just softened image is beyond me. Yeah, stand in place and don't touch the controls , and "evaluate" on static picture it's comparable to AA , that's just an unrealistic scenario .
Besides Disney tried this with offline animation and failed, yet they had all the incentive.
Maybe it's just that shipping broke tech with broke games won't make much of a diff ?

 

[cvv]

Reminder that this is still a thing:

This is the reason I fucking hate all that talk about "muh bugs", drowning out everything else. Fuck bugs. This is way, WAY more serious problem. Compared to shit like this bugs are a fucking joke.

 

[J_C]

Reminder that this is still a thing:

This is the reason I fucking hate all that talk about "muh bugs", drowning out everything else. Fuck bugs. This is way, WAY more serious problem. Compared to shit like this bugs are a fucking joke.

Jesus Christ. So this mission is so scripted, you always win it, even if you don't fire a single bullet?