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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

Gradenmayer

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Funny reading how they wanted to be more like GTA, because if they straight up cut out: driving, police system, ability to shoot at/drive over (somehow their future cars don't have autobrake systems?) civilians and added subway system- the game would become 2 times better and no one would complain about those features missing.
 

Bliblablubb

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Is this for real?
If the enemy is not holding a weapon outside combat, it only spawns when combat is triggered.
At least it was the case for the Animals and the hit target here, but I think it was always the case.
Sometimes enemies drop lvl1 weapons when downed, makes that mission where you get captured and have no equipment so painful if you have no cyber arms. Fighting them nekkid with a 50 dps weapon you get from sneak killing one, while getting instakilled in one hit was sooooo much fun. :hahano:
 

Bliblablubb

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Funny reading how they wanted to be more like GTA, because if they straight up cut out: driving, police system, ability to shoot at/drive over (somehow their future cars don't have autobrake systems?) civilians and added subway system- the game would become 2 times better and no one would complain about those features missing.
I think the game would have still have worked well if they had done it like the niu Deus Exs did, with secluded areas like in the lifepaths. You spend half of the tlme during missions on the passenger seat anyway, plenty of time to show off the city. Plus maybe taxi/train rides.
Going through traffic in a car is still painful, since npc cars stop on green traffic lights or simply in the middle of the road, because pathfinding took an early day off. At least on a bike you don't care.
Although bikes gave me a hillariuos bug in the old version, where phonecalls from fixers and Takemura clogged up while searching the Delamain cars, and upon exiting the bike V suddently had 4 phonecalls at the same time. Talking to each of them. :hahano:


Multitasking bitches! :obviously:
 
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T.Ashpool

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if would be cool if in one of the expansions this game would get a side activity that includes being a pimp for panam and sending her to different strip clubs to get cash. you could get a private dance from her and decide what she's wearing
 

Gargaune

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Going through traffic in a car is still painful, since npc cars stop on green traffic lights or simply in the middle of the road, because pathfinding took an early day off.
I've tried to pinpoint what the fuck is going on, but no dice. Sometimes cars will start rolling again if I get really, really close, others if I swing the camera out of view of what's in front of them (maybe triggering a despawn of some invisible obstruction, the frustrum culling is batshit), others not at all. I tried following a car around for a long time and eventually gave up when I just bumped into him and he started turning back and forth, busting up my Red Ferrari. I got out and shot him, obviously.

At least on a bike you don't care.
Try the Maimai! Yeah, it's half a horse short of a bicycle, but that little bugger sticks to the road like shit to velcro. It's also the only CBP car I've seen that can actually be driven in first person - it's got no hood, so the stupidly low viewpoint is more manageable, and it's small enough that your right A-pillar fits on screen.

Really, it's quite...
maimai.jpg
 

Bliblablubb

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I've tried to pinpoint what the fuck is going on, but no dice.
Way back, I wonderd why a green dot was coming towards me in a car, it was the reporter, a quest npc from a gig 15 mins ago, still being driven away. I followed him FOR SCIENCE, to see if he just despawns. Nope, I followed him all the way down to Pacifica, where did a u-turn and drove back. Hoping to get out of my visual range I guess. Then he got stuck forever near the Coyote bar and I gave up. The things I do for science.... :hahano:
But boy was that drive a joy. Especially the highway. There are invisibile seams every car just stops at. I had to notch each of them in the collum over it one by one to continue. It's like the AI stops at the border of the current "cell" hoping nobody notices.

Try the Maimai!
Waaaay ahead of you bro. Complete with mod to make it "V-Colored", black 'n gold is his/her/diverse jam. :obviously:
https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3333/images/1097/1097-1613576460-715629114.jpeg

Not embedding it, since it's a nexus link.

Not driving anything in 1 person, the steering wheel twitching at even the slightest movement drives me crazy.
 

Gargaune

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Way back, I wonderd why a green dot was coming towards me in a car, it was the reporter, a quest npc from a gig 15 mins ago, still being driven away. I followed him FOR SCIENCE, to see if he just despawns. Nope, I followed him all the way down to Pacifica, where did a u-turn and drove back. Hoping to get out of my visual range I guess. Then he got stuck forever near the Coyote bar and I gave up. The things I do for science.... :hahano:
But boy was that drive a joy. Especially the highway. There are invisibile seams every car just stops at. I had to notch each of them in the collum over it one by one to continue. It's like the AI stops at the border of the current "cell" hoping nobody notices.
They don't (usually) despawn if they're in view, but the game's got the most aggressive culling I've seen out of the frustrum. The instant you turn away, Cyberpunk flushes out dynamic decor like vehicles and NPCs, and I get why they're doing it, but the implementation's just not fit for purpose. What's the point in having all these ambient NPCs if the instant I do a double take or engage photo mode half of them are gonna Shift+Delete themselves out of existence?

Here's a story for you - yet another car stopped in the middle of traffic, duh. I decide to squeeze some "roleplaying" value out of it, so I get out, waltz over and pull the inconsiderate bitch out of her vehicle. Public announcements keep saying it's illegal to use guns to advance in traffic, but they don't say shit about using your bare hands. NPC starts running, so I jump in her car and drive her over. Job well done, right? Wrong. Because by the time I get out, the car's rolled on for another couple of metres, so when I turn around to admire my handywork, she's gone! Poof! Like German euromoneyz in a Greek bailout, not even a puff of smoke. CDPR, I can't roleplay under these conditions!

And to get back on topic, I give it fifty-fifty odds that the dynamic ambient objects system is screwing up traffic as well. That's why I was trying to test with turning the camera around to get the area in front of a stuck car out of view, but I ran out of patience. I've also noticed that stuck cars often honk when they stop, as well, like they're picking something up in front of them.

Anyway, long story short, it just sucks. There's no way around it, it's broken for all practical purposes. It's not even like NPCs milling around in circles, which you're only gonna notice if you stop to observe them, this is a constant and obvious nuisance.

Waaaay ahead of you bro. Complete with mod to make it "V-Colored", black 'n gold is his/her/diverse jam. :obviously:
https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/3333/images/1097/1097-1613576460-715629114.jpeg
Nice! Those racing stripes should fix the acceleration!

Not embedding it, since it's a nexus link.
Are we not supposed to embed those?
 

Bliblablubb

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Are we not supposed to embed those?
Dunno what our dark and mysterious Underlord's stance on that is, but embedding pics from other sites you haven't reuploaded somewhere else is kinda un-bro behaviour. :obviously:

I already didn't pay anything for all my mods, least I can do is not also steal their bandwidth. :hahano:

Nice! Those racing stripes should fix the acceleration!
I swear it goes from zero to topspeed in less than 30 seconds now!
 

Gargaune

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Dunno what our dark and mysterious Underlord's stance on that is, but embedding pics from other sites you haven't reuploaded somewhere else is kinda un-bro behaviour. :obviously:

I already didn't pay anything for all my mods, least I can do is not also steal their bandwidth.
Eh, I seem to recall hosts having the ability to block off-site embedding if it's an issue for them. Besides, when it comes to the Nexus, a readily available image is more likely to drive traffic to a mod, I'd imagine. But that's an aside, I was just curious whether I'd missed something about Nexus embedding in particular.

I swear it goes from zero to topspeed in less than 30 seconds now!

:happytrollboy:
 

Bliblablubb

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Another telltale sign this game is not GTA occured to me the other day btw. While casually speeding crusing rolling to uuuh save COOH² in my 2seater pimpmobil (made in china), I noticed hoo- wholesome women taking eddies for intercourse standing at the road. Be it from patching up or just my now higher settings, they piqued my interest.
So I drove up to one... She did not interrupt her "dance".
I skillfully pressed the horn... She did not feel the need to approach me.
Exiting the car and engaging in dialog, what did she say to me: "I ain't buying what you are selling." DAFUQ do you take me for bitch?
Sooooo... I knocked her out with Meredith Stout's vibrating dildo and put her in my trunk... She still offers no service! :argh:

0/5 will not use again.
 
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Terenty

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Playing this game for a year must be one of the most extreme cases of inflicting pain to yourself. Stop it guys, you've suffered enough
 

Perkel

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Someone did information video about full gameplay rebalance overahul mod from nexus. I will be probably doing playtrough with it since i bought new 4k 120hz oled tv.

 

Gargaune

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If this game the biggest flop in the gaming history?

Even surpassing Daikatana?
Nah, not even close. CDPR's brand took a battering and the game may have underperformed commitments, but it ain't gonna put a dent in anyone's coke habit.
 

tritosine2k

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If this game the biggest flop in the gaming history?

Even surpassing Daikatana?
GTA trilogy is apparently closer with that "hotshot CEO" Zelnick peddling Take Two to Zucc as better alternative:

“I still think most people’s definition of the metaverse is a warmed over version of Second Life, and Second Life was an abject failure,” Zelnick said. “And to the extent that we are seeing expressions of the metaverse in entertainment — for example Grand Theft Auto Online and Red Dead Online, or, to use someone else’s properties, Roblox, Fortnite — they exist.” He said, “They feel a lot like the metaverse to me. I’m not sure why Facebook needs to to spend $10 billion and hire 10,000 employees — OK. But if it means something more than that, I have yet to see an analogy in human behavior that truly resonates.”

meanwhile in reality:
GTA 6 is reportedly in development hell right now and may not release until 2025. The game has apparently been rebooted multiple times, and the departure of key Rockstar talent like Leslie Benzies in 2016 and more recent GTA co-writer Dan Houser in 2020 has disrupted GTA 6's progress.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/8272...g-so-long-as-explained-by-take-two/index.html

uh huh
 

Bliblablubb

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Turns out I didn't patch up all the way, missed a tiny hotfix. And it is a needed one. It's always a mystery to me how companies introduce new bugs with patches that weren't there before...

My Nomad car is not present for the lifepath quest. I knew that would happen the moment the quest started, because it was marked with a "your car" map symbol. And as expected, when I called a car to drive there, the game remembered "oh wait, he is not supposed to have it yet" and despawned it. Forever. Tripple A coding at work.
Also TVs have stopped working now. Even at the appartment V only stares at a black screen, the option to switch channels not even there anymore. Guess the cleaning lady tripped over a powercable and nobody is certified to plug it back in... :hahano:
Apparently they broke charged jump as well, because they tied it... to the framerate? I can barely jump over a fence now, while people with a pimped toaster can almost reach low orbit.
This is Bethesda all over again! I should start playing a "Bethesda Bingo" on the side, where I cross out every fuckup Beth has also done before. Fastest Bingo ever.

At least the car is listed as fixed in that 1.31 hotfix, not sure about TVs.
 

Fedora Master

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This game is already going the way of the Skyrim: Shit on all levels but with people desperately trying to "fix" it via mods.
 

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