CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[somewhatgiggly]

The way everyone is jerking it off now, you'll think 1.5 or the first real DLC had come out. But no, it's just accessible more to people.

I played Cyberpunk. 205 hours. I liked it. It's a 'good' game, and for 20 bucks or so, definitely worth its money.

in other words, if you want more content, better be excited and play the game after 1.5 rolls out

I really hope so. Just even making the city more alive with a thousand more gigs or assaults-in-progress and so on would go a long way. My main problem with it right now is that there's nothing to do but drive around, come across a gang in a alleyway, kill them, drive on. And there's just three of them at a time. I want to see a lot more corpo sec out there to mow down, unique murders, whatever.

 

[typical user]

in other words, if you want more content, better be excited and play the game after 1.5 rolls out

No, don't be excited. Be sceptical or you are in for world of disappointment just like last year on the release.

1. Have they promised to rework the storyline to feature branching questlines? Will we get exclusive paths for Maelstrom/Militech or Netwarch/Voodoo Boys?
2. Are they going to introduce promised faction reputations? Will Arasaka chase us for killing the emperor and stealing immortality biochip?
3. Will police officers stop spawning behind your back and actually spawn in squad cars and AVs and navigate to you naturally?
4. Will they introduce repeatable side-activities like fight clubs, street races and fixer contracts? CP2077 is UbiGame right now. With more bugs.
5. Are there any plans to include buyable and upgradeable properties like they have promised? Will you be able to upgrade them like Corvo Bianco from Blood and Wine?
6. Do they have any plans to restore cut features like metro/taxi fast travel systems, wall running, random encounters or spiderbot for Tech builds?
7. Are they going to rework UI, dialogs and cutscenes to be less Witcher 3 and actually more immersive and in Deus Ex style?
8. Have they got any plans to introduce at least barbers to change your characters hair after initial creation? Witcher 3 had beard growth mechanic.

Until at least half those things are brought in with free updates or all of them in paid expansion pack don't bother. The game is still very buggy. Police will assault you at random, half the perks still don't work. The UI breaks when going at high speeds, there are no collisions between player and NPCs, pedestrians still squat when in danger or disappear when you turn your screen around. The only fixes they have provided is to have MaxTac deal 50% max health damage with every bullet, or a cat that has different static spawnpoints with no sandboxing in sterile enviroment of V's apartment, or being able to turn off double-tap to dodge, or half-assed map zoom-out.

This game had higher budget and more development time than GTA V. So I won't be pulling any punches and actually demand same quality. Or they can GTFO from the industry since there are games developed by single people which impressed me more than this gopnik jank.

 

[DeepOcean]

Man, this whole thing is very suspicious, they took two years to do basic patches that were unambitious as they could get and people are now talking about this expansion that will supposedly save the game from AAA mediocrity, nigga, it took them 2 years to make patches with supposedly half the studio working on Cyberbug, do you really think they will release a Blood and Wine level expansion to this game? At this point?

CDPR seemed very wishy washy about the whole thing and they are only talking about this 1.5 version with certainty, it seems they want to milk the cow a bit more but there are zero promises about saving all expansions. ( and if there was, people believing on their promises by this point are just crazy.)

 

[Sykar]

---{ PC Requirements }---
☐ Check if you can run paint
☐ Potato
☐ Decent
☐ Fast
☑ Rich boi
☐ Ask NASA if they have a spare computer

Fuck yeah, I'm a rich boi now!

Seriously, do people assume that question means "to run it on super ultra while mining bitcoins in the background"? My toaster doesn't even qualify as "hot shit in Timbuktu" anymore and I could still run it on high. If I want my fans to sound like turbines that is. But it still looks pretty if I tone it down to "mostly high"...
Sheesh, kids these days.

So, what are your specs? Worse than my 10 year old i5 with 8 GB DDR3 ram, shitty 5400 RPM HDD, and a 1070 GTX?

 

[Gargaune]

You are reading raw lua as if someone wrote it by hand. They are probably using in house tools and all of that was produced by their tools.

What do you mean? Regardless of how those flags were generated, if the scripting checks for an incidental "talkedToKirk" variable instead of the main background one, that does indeed suggest poor structuring, the check isn't parented to the proper state. A simple oversight from a tired quest designer, or was the narrative class architecture in flux when the quest was implemented? Sure, we've all gone "fuck it, it works" at some point, but the implications are dubious.

in other words, if you want more content, better be excited and play the game after 1.5 rolls out

Dunno, to me most of that sounded like a bunch of Magic 8 Ball "ask again later lol."

1. Have they promised to rework the storyline to feature branching questlines? Will we get exclusive paths for Maelstrom/Militech or Netwarch/Voodoo Boys?
2. Are they going to introduce promised faction reputations? Will Arasaka chase us for killing the emperor and stealing immortality biochip?
3. Will police officers stop spawning behind your back and actually spawn in squad cars and AVs and navigate to you naturally?
4. Will they introduce repeatable side-activities like fight clubs, street races and fixer contracts? CP2077 is UbiGame right now. With more bugs.
5. Are there any plans to include buyable and upgradeable properties like they have promised? Will you be able to upgrade them like Corvo Bianco from Blood and Wine?
6. Do they have any plans to restore cut features like metro/taxi fast travel systems, wall running, random encounters or spiderbot for Tech builds?
7. Are they going to rework UI, dialogs and cutscenes to be less Witcher 3 and actually more immersive and in Deus Ex style?
8. Have they got any plans to introduce at least barbers to change your characters hair after initial creation? Witcher 3 had beard growth mechanic.

Dude, what? Are you making a laundry list of what you don't like about the game or do you genuinely expect that an "enhanced edition" would overhaul plot lines and cinematics? Patch 1.5 will pack some further performance optimisations, rework a handful of peripheral game systems like the police and maybe add some bits and bobs of features and content that didn't make the cut or were planned as "free DLC." The game is what it is, the only thing that could make a significant difference is a quality expansion.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

would overhaul plot lines and cinematics?

yes
My expectations for a $300 million dollar game are not unreasonable.

 

[Gargaune]

would overhaul plot lines and cinematics?

yes
My expectations for a $300 million dollar game are not unreasonable.

No, no - my expectations that Swen would add mouse support to BG3 aren't unreasonable, your expectations that CDPR would develop the same game again are unreasonable. The $300 million's been spent, that ship's sailed.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

would overhaul plot lines and cinematics?

yes
My expectations for a $300 million dollar game are not unreasonable.

No, no - my expectations that Swen would add mouse support to BG3 aren't unreasonable, your expectations that CDPR would develop the same game again are unreasonable. The $300 million's been spent, that ship's sailed.

Not my fault they spent the $300m on nothing.

 

[typical user]

Dude, what? Are you making a laundry list of what you don't like about the game or do you genuinely expect that an "enhanced edition" would overhaul plot lines and cinematics? Patch 1.5 will pack some further performance optimisations, rework a handful of peripheral game systems like the police and maybe add some bits and bobs of features and content that didn't make the cut or were planned as "free DLC." The game is what it is, the only thing that could make a significant difference is a quality expansion.

Well then they shouldn't promise most of those things in the first place!

 

[Gargaune]

Well then they shouldn't promise most of those things in the first place!

That's fine but it's general criticism, you're not gonna get that sort of stuff from a patched-up re-release. Fabulous optimism is what got us here in the first place.

 

[ADL]

 

[Bigg Boss]

This game has me morbidly curious but I won't buy it.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

ah, so that's where the budget went

 

[Bigg Boss]

That and celebrity voice acting.

 

[tritosine2k]

Porsche loicense

 

[Crispy]

So let me see if I've got this right:

- They're going to be releasing a "next-gen version" of the game alongside patch 1.5, right?

- This "next-gen version" is going to enhance visuals and game systems, in other words, bring the game back to the state it was when it was first released, right?

- There aren't going to be any actual expansions to the game until after 1.5 / "next-gen" / Back-to-the-Beginning is released, which means some time in 2022, right?

- And we have no idea whether or not the current team working on the game is even capable of doing any of this without fucking the game up even more than it is, right?

What an unmitigated disaster. Even Star Citizen is starting to get its shit together. Imagine not being able to compete with STAR FUCKING CITIZEN!

 

[The Wall]

I toooold you, milion times toooold you. Slavic urban centres are SJW lairs (thanks Americans!) and SJWs are hundred bad things BUT NUMBER ONE IS: I-N-C-O-M-P-E-T-E-N-T

Literally and figuratively. CDPR programmers are either young or young and SJW. Wooooowzer what happend to all the good ones??? - all suprised picachus asked

They left. Have been leaving for YEARS and current CDPR is sliiiiightly more competent then current Bioware. Fucking realise that when KEY people who made games leave, label itself is WORTHLESS. If Messi stopped playing for Barcelona and was instead replaced by Miloje from FC Mrčajevci, 5ft Balkan football league, would you put 100$ on next Barcelona's victory?

 

[Alienman]

Known as a cyberpunk, hmm.

 

[The Wall]

If 500+ people in 2021 can't reproduce after year+ of trying same police system code that 100 people did in GTA San Andreas back in 2004 then you have to understand that we are living in cultural, societal, intelligence and know-how decline, the same one Britons experienced when Romans left. CDPR is pozzed, thus shit. Simple As

 

[The Wall]

Asking from modern CDPR to make you good game is like being angry because your dead grandma didn't make you your favourite waffles from your childhood. Halloooo, grandma is dead, so is CDPR. Learn to make waffles

 

[Old Hans]

you have to understand that we are living in cultural, societal, intelligence and know-how decline, the same one Britons experienced when Romans left. CDPR is pozzed, thus shit. Simple As

EXCEPT CDproject always kind of stunk at making systems. I remember pre witcher 3 hype they were talking up the NPC schedules or some bullshit & everyone was all "whoa the npc's react to the rain" and I was all "YEA... they did that in the first game"

and everyone clapped

 

[gurugeorge]

you have to understand that we are living in cultural, societal, intelligence and know-how decline, the same one Britons experienced when Romans left. CDPR is pozzed, thus shit. Simple As

EXCEPT CDproject always kind of stunk at making systems. I remember pre witcher 3 hype they were talking up the NPC schedules or some bullshit & everyone was all "whoa the npc's react to the rain" and I was all "YEA... they did that in the first game"

and everyone clapped

I don't understand that comment. Doesn't the fact that they did it in the first game prove they were good at making systems?

 

[Perkel]

I like how everyone ignored that apparently The Witcher 3 is getting multiplayer...



Speaking of which if C77 is getting multiplayer then they have to redo perks and slow time aug. Or they will just make it into shooter without progression/stats.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I like how everyone ignored that apparently The Witcher 3 is getting multiplayer...

It will be broken and shit. CDPR is incapable of producing anything of quality anymore.

 

[somewhatgiggly]

in other words, if you want more content, better be excited and play the game after 1.5 rolls out

No, don't be excited. Be sceptical or you are in for world of disappointment just like last year on the release.

1. Have they promised to rework the storyline to feature branching questlines? Will we get exclusive paths for Maelstrom/Militech or Netwarch/Voodoo Boys?
2. Are they going to introduce promised faction reputations? Will Arasaka chase us for killing the emperor and stealing immortality biochip?
3. Will police officers stop spawning behind your back and actually spawn in squad cars and AVs and navigate to you naturally?
4. Will they introduce repeatable side-activities like fight clubs, street races and fixer contracts? CP2077 is UbiGame right now. With more bugs.
5. Are there any plans to include buyable and upgradeable properties like they have promised? Will you be able to upgrade them like Corvo Bianco from Blood and Wine?
6. Do they have any plans to restore cut features like metro/taxi fast travel systems, wall running, random encounters or spiderbot for Tech builds?
7. Are they going to rework UI, dialogs and cutscenes to be less Witcher 3 and actually more immersive and in Deus Ex style?
8. Have they got any plans to introduce at least barbers to change your characters hair after initial creation? Witcher 3 had beard growth mechanic.

Until at least half those things are brought in with free updates or all of them in paid expansion pack don't bother. The game is still very buggy. Police will assault you at random, half the perks still don't work. The UI breaks when going at high speeds, there are no collisions between player and NPCs, pedestrians still squat when in danger or disappear when you turn your screen around. The only fixes they have provided is to have MaxTac deal 50% max health damage with every bullet, or a cat that has different static spawnpoints with no sandboxing in sterile enviroment of V's apartment, or being able to turn off double-tap to dodge, or half-assed map zoom-out.

This game had higher budget and more development time than GTA V. So I won't be pulling any punches and actually demand same quality. Or they can GTFO from the industry since there are games developed by single people which impressed me more than this gopnik jank.

1 feels like a full DLC thing.

2 might tie in with 4, a general gangs-of-night-city thing. Arasaka being on my ass: no thanks, not really. Last thing we need is constant Legion level Assassin squads.

3 Seems to be coming up, yes.

Again with 4, hope so.

5 I'm a bit ehhhh on this. While I did muse on it, like getting one of those nice houses out in 6's territory...I could see it. Or a better apartment building.

6 - I really hope the metro comes back.

7 - Doubtful.

8 - Should be easy enough.

Honestly they need to make the lifepaths actually matter. Corpos can rub shoulders with the inner city. Street Kids with their gang, using all the resources they can. Nomads ditto. It felt like all three were mashed together. Corpos can talk their way out of a few sitches due to their background. Jackie often felt like the Street-Kid gang 'translator'. Nomads took up a solid half of my game, there's a LOT of content for them but if it was possible, I would had liked to hire out militech/get into militech to help take down arasaka, or a gang, or even another inner city group of poors and equalists than fuck around the badlands.

Nomads should actually enjoy a expanded badlands and deal with the suburbs more. Streetkids muck around in their hoods with their chosen gang (and they should choose one, affects their fixer and their questlines. Corpos should really have a lot more interaction with the corporate world, all of them.