Falksi
Arcane
Saints Row isn't even fantasy. I think you don't understand my question.Assassins' Creed: Origins (haven't played the latter entries, but if they're as good as Origins them too)
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Maybe even Saints Row 4
Open world game, first person, fantasy setting, be who you want, do what you want, simple gameplay anyone can pick up, easy to mod. How many games have there really been that replicated this formula exactly?
You realize that open world wasn't all there was to Skyrim, right? If it was, every one of the dozens of open world games would still be ranking where Skyrim is on the sales charts. Released in 2006, Skyrim is still in the top 30.
I'm saying that Skyrim was a half-baked, unimaginative, retarded game. And yet, somehow, in spite of that, it's STILL a top seller. Nearly 16 years after its release.
Don't you think there might be a reason for that beyond "people who like something I don't like are dumb stupid poopy heads?"
Uh huh. It's practically unplayable in 3rd person mode. What does your 20-friend survey of Skyrim players say about who plays it like that for anything other than running around aimlessly or taking a screenshot of their character's rear end?Granted most are 3rd person, but so's Skyrim if you choose to play it that way.
Then why are they still playing it? Why are they still buying it?But Skyrim's a pile of shit, and Joe Mongtard who plays it will jump ship onto the next fad as soon as they get the "shiny shiny" sales pitch, because they're simple creatures with no ability to think for themselves.
Not really a debate. I just stated a simple, obvious fact that no one seems to want to admit: Bethesda found a formula for success that no one else has replicated. Everyone wants to add some twist that changes the whole thing.I've totally forgotten what the debate was about
No one does what Bethestard do like Bethastard because they aren't them. It doesn't mean they don't do similar and better though. It's like me saying "I don't think anyone nails the CDPR formula like they do. Open world, 3rd person, fantasy setting, play a set character, rape novels etc" selectively picking a few elements to eliminate other games which are very much like Skyrim in all but a few ways is just strange.
It's like saying "I don't think anyone nails the SHMUP formula like Technosoft. Horizontal action, gear changing craft, no smart bombs, continue from point of death etc." No one in their right mind would then discount all the other SHMUPS simply because they don't meet a few specific criteria. "Ah you can't compare it to Gley Lancer because that has horizontal action, gear changing craft, no smart bombs, but has a checkpoint system." It's not apples and oranges, it's green apples compared with mostly green apples which have a bit of red in them too. The difference isn't enough to discount them from a similar bracket.
And nah, I genuinely don't. Skyrim was a fad, 70% of the Earths population are fuckwits who follow fads. They were sold this "amazing world" and it took most of them 5-10 years to suss out it was shit. By which time TW3 was on the radar, selling them another "amazing world" and then that became the hunk of shit they chose to waste time on instead, along with other such wank like DA:I. These people stay in shit relationships for half their life, waste the other half working soulless day jobs, and would rather burden their immune systems with virus they know nothing about than eat a bit of fruit and veg everyday. They're just cattle to be exploited, and that's what Skyrim did.