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Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Crooked Bee, Jul 27, 2015.

  1. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    He was upset with the idea that the force has a will of its own.
     
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  2. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Most likely a remake for mobile.
     
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  3. Quillon Magister

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    What did Kenobi lie about?
     
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  4. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    How about: "a young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father."
     
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  5. Butter Arcane

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    But that was true, from a certain point of view.
     
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  6. Quillon Magister

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    I've watched all the movies once and don't remember shit, didn't he do all those things?(last one metaphorically :P)
     
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  7. Butter Arcane

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    It was a retcon. Originally Vader and Anakin were going to be two separate characters.
     
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  8. Quillon Magister

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    The retcon didn't make narrative sense? Otherwise what does it matter something got retconed back in 83 :P
     
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  9. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Darth Vader was his name after he became a Sith though and he never really helped the empire hunt down the Jedi Knights, all he killed was the kids and Mace Windu (a Jedi Master).
     
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  10. Butter Arcane

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    I could be wrong, but I think in the EU Vader actually hunted down and killed other jedi who had escaped immediate termination.
     
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  11. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The EU was equally as canon under Lucas as it was under Disney, Lucas was just more diplomatic about it.
     
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  12. Lockkaliber Magister Patron

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    I suspect he mostly just helped out with the structure of the narrative and some plot points. For example, some things from KotOR 2 are reused, such as a character cutting herself of from the force willingly (which was supposed to be a huge deal in K2) and backstory being told through a droids holomessages conveniently locked behind certain triggers (T3). There were more things but I can't be bothered to remember them. All in all the story is kind of bad though.
     
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  13. Beastro Arcane

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    Lucas originally wanted to do 3 trilogies: one for Luke, one for his sister, one for when they meet up with their father and take the fight to the Empire.

    Early in Empire Strikes Back production he realized that wasn't going to happen and also to cut down on character bloat he feared was happening to Star Wars, so he combined Anakin and Vader resulting in the famous twist as well as later shoehorning Leia in as Luke's sister as she was the only person in the series that could fit the bill.
     
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    Leia being retconned as Luke's sister was done solely to resolve the Han-Leia-Luke love triangle. I doubt Lucas had any serious plans for a Leia trilogy (or any long-term plan for Star Wars), considering the possible implications of her Force sensitiveness are treated as a complete afterthought in Return of the Jedi. She doesn't even react to the fact that her father died.
     
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  16. Beastro Arcane

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    He did, at least before Empire. The final compromises he had to make came with Jedi and scrapping the battle over/on Coruscant where a fleet would fight several Death Stars while Luke fought the Emperor in his subterranean, lava filled throne room, kill him and take over as Emperor leading to a gradual change in government. That didn't simply get scrapped for being too over ambitious.... but because that wouldn't leave room for Lucas's fun on a forest world with primitives defeating Imperial forces. That got pushed together with final battle over a world involving that. So yeah, you can thank the Ewoks for more than just existing though the Death Star's spam sounds retarded.

    SF Debris did a 3 part series about it in his miniseries category Heroes Journey, Shadow's and Hermit's: https://sfdebris.com/videos/special/herosjourney.php

    IIRC Shadow's Journey, the second part, deals with most of Anakin and Vader being rolled together.
     
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  18. Thonius Arcane

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  19. Duraframe300 Arcane

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    Well if it makes him happy working on a million games.....
    I just hope he doesn't end up at a point where he looks back at this time and realizes that by doing so he left nothing worthwhile or even indentifiable behind.

    (Except for a rage thread on an internet forum of course)
     
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  20. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I would think he's using a Time-Turner if it wasn't for all his contributions to these games being small and inconsequential.
     
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    Drew seems pretty Insecure about the whole thing, maybe even...

    :butthurt:
     
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  22. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Drew Karpyshyn's writing sucks. He seems incapable of writing anything that isn't cheesy or expository.
     
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  23. Jedi Master Radek Arcane

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    I remember liking his Darth Bane books.
     
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  24. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    Even Darth Bane as a name is cheese.
     
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  25. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Drew wrote quite the angry post on his blog when kotor 2 fans tore into him for what he did in Revan.
     
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