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my guess the "Kreia thing" in Acolyte is the bad guy was hiding amongst us all this time
Like Palpatine? Or Dooku?
No, viewers knew both were bad. Players didn't know Kreia was the real bad guy until much later. At best we knew she was suspicious and that she was not telling us the whole story but that is a common trope with RPG companions.

After ep4 it is pretty clear the Master is the guy that travelled with Mae, he was Kreia to Mae character
 

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I seriously doubt the people on The Acolyte have any idea who Kreia actually is. Look at how the botched the whole thing around "The Sith have been extinct for a millenia." thing. In order to smooth out that glaring retcon, they put in the coneheaded Jedi Master that said it in the fourth episode, which is what the wikis have had to update their page on that particular character because the show takes place several decades before he was canonically born. The black actor that plays a Jedi in that show gave two interviews talking about good and evil in Star Wars and said Anakin Skywalker killed thousands of people when he blew up the Death Star. Not once, but twice he said that. They can't even get the movie stuff right, things that Disney considers canon, so I really doubt they have any idea who the antagonist in a non-canon video game is other than what her name is.

Even if they did, I seriously doubt that would have changed anything you see in that show. It's not like their agendas would have changed because Chris Avellone wrote a good antagonist in a video game. No one played KotOR2 and decided to be gay.
The showrunner specifically referred to her as "Darth Traya" and not Kreia which leads me to believe that she just glanced at a fan wiki. No one actually calls her "Darth Traya" (an identity and outlook she had long abandoned).
 

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Are you guys willing to bet they showed interest in Darth Traya because of Muh Feminism and "The Force is female" shit?
 

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Also, you meant to say Luke Skywalker, I think.
No, I was saying what the actor said. That was my point, the actor said, twice, that it was Anakin destroyed the Death Star. And this was said after he was talking about how big of a Star Wars fan he was in the first interview. In the second interview, Daphne Keene was sitting beside him and told him to stop talking, to which he doubled down. I think pretty much everyone knows that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star, even those who don't claim to be "big fans" of Star Wars.
The showrunner specifically referred to her as "Darth Traya" and not Kreia which leads me to believe that she just glanced at a fan wiki. No one actually calls her "Darth Traya" (an identity and outlook she had long abandoned).
I agree. I would be willing to bet that there's a decent amount of people who have played, and finished, the game that don't even remember her Sith name. It's not mentioned very much compared to "Kreia". They'd probably remember after hearing the name, but I'd bet they couldn't remember it on their own.
 

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DARK SIDE POINTS GAINED.

Also, you meant to say Luke Skywalker, I think.
No, I was saying what the actor said. That was my point, the actor said, twice, that it was Anakin destroyed the Death Star. And this was said after he was talking about how big of a Star Wars fan he was in the first interview. In the second interview, Daphne Keene was sitting beside him and told him to stop talking, to which he doubled down. I think pretty much everyone knows that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star, even those who don't claim to be "big fans" of Star Wars.
The showrunner specifically referred to her as "Darth Traya" and not Kreia which leads me to believe that she just glanced at a fan wiki. No one actually calls her "Darth Traya" (an identity and outlook she had long abandoned).
I agree. I would be willing to bet that there's a decent amount of people who have played, and finished, the game that don't even remember her Sith name. It's not mentioned very much compared to "Kreia". They'd probably remember after hearing the name, but I'd bet they couldn't remember it on their own.
My feeling is that actor was talking about 2nd Death Star because Anakin throws Emperor down the tube and things start to explode. If he watched it only as a kid he might have forgot about the part when Han Solo blows up the energy generator in the middle of it.
 

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DARK SIDE POINTS GAINED.

Also, you meant to say Luke Skywalker, I think.
No, I was saying what the actor said. That was my point, the actor said, twice, that it was Anakin destroyed the Death Star. And this was said after he was talking about how big of a Star Wars fan he was in the first interview. In the second interview, Daphne Keene was sitting beside him and told him to stop talking, to which he doubled down. I think pretty much everyone knows that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star, even those who don't claim to be "big fans" of Star Wars.
The showrunner specifically referred to her as "Darth Traya" and not Kreia which leads me to believe that she just glanced at a fan wiki. No one actually calls her "Darth Traya" (an identity and outlook she had long abandoned).
I agree. I would be willing to bet that there's a decent amount of people who have played, and finished, the game that don't even remember her Sith name. It's not mentioned very much compared to "Kreia". They'd probably remember after hearing the name, but I'd bet they couldn't remember it on their own.
My feeling is that actor was talking about 2nd Death Star because Anakin throws Emperor down the tube and things start to explode. If he watched it only as a kid he might have forgot about the part when Han Solo blows up the energy generator in the middle of it.
Yeah, I also thought that Han destroying the generator on Endor and Lando and Rogue Squadron doing their thing all played their part in destroying the second Death Star, not just Anakin (Vader) throwing the Emperor down that shaft.

By the way, as the years go by, I start to realize more and more just how dumb Return of the Jedi was.
The Ewoks, the second Death Star (another monumental waste of resources on the Empire's part)...
 

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DARK SIDE POINTS GAINED.

Also, you meant to say Luke Skywalker, I think.
No, I was saying what the actor said. That was my point, the actor said, twice, that it was Anakin destroyed the Death Star. And this was said after he was talking about how big of a Star Wars fan he was in the first interview. In the second interview, Daphne Keene was sitting beside him and told him to stop talking, to which he doubled down. I think pretty much everyone knows that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star, even those who don't claim to be "big fans" of Star Wars.
The showrunner specifically referred to her as "Darth Traya" and not Kreia which leads me to believe that she just glanced at a fan wiki. No one actually calls her "Darth Traya" (an identity and outlook she had long abandoned).
I agree. I would be willing to bet that there's a decent amount of people who have played, and finished, the game that don't even remember her Sith name. It's not mentioned very much compared to "Kreia". They'd probably remember after hearing the name, but I'd bet they couldn't remember it on their own.
My feeling is that actor was talking about 2nd Death Star because Anakin throws Emperor down the tube and things start to explode. If he watched it only as a kid he might have forgot about the part when Han Solo blows up the energy generator in the middle of it.


By the way, as the years go by, I start to realize more and more just how dumb Return of the Jedi was.
The Ewoks, the second Death Star (another monumental waste of resources on the Empire's part)...

Originally when Lucas envisioned a 3 trilogy epic it was going to be a battle above a Coruscant defended by something like half a dozen Death Stars.

Palps throne was to be deep underground in a lava cave, and when Luke defeats him, he assumes the Emperorship to make the transition back to the Republic smoother.
 

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My feeling is that actor was talking about 2nd Death Star because Anakin throws Emperor down the tube and things start to explode. If he watched it only as a kid he might have forgot about the part when Han Solo blows up the energy generator in the middle of it.
You mean he might have missed the part where Lando shoots the reactor with the Millenium Falcon in the center of the Death Star and then escapes through the tunnel with the big explosion that follows him? You know, the big space battle that they went over where they said you can shoot the reactor at the center of the Death Star which they can access in small ships? Han Solo destroyed the shield generator so Lando and his squad could get in to the Death Star to destroy it. Luke destroyed the first Death Star, Lando destroyed the second one.
not just Anakin (Vader) throwing the Emperor down that shaft.
Yeah, Palpatine getting the shaft(hah hah) had nothing to do with it. And apparently, that explosion wasn't that bad because "Somehow, Palpatine survived."
 

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Yeah, the second Death Star was destroyed by a proud malt liquor enthusiast and a hilarious asian caricature:

iu

That modern Hollywood would steal the valor of these brave POC is beyond outrageous.
 

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My feeling is that actor was talking about 2nd Death Star because Anakin throws Emperor down the tube and things start to explode. If he watched it only as a kid he might have forgot about the part when Han Solo blows up the energy generator in the middle of it.
You mean he might have missed the part where Lando shoots the reactor with the Millenium Falcon in the center of the Death Star and then escapes through the tunnel with the big explosion that follows him? You know, the big space battle that they went over where they said you can shoot the reactor at the center of the Death Star which they can access in small ships? Han Solo destroyed the shield generator so Lando and his squad could get in to the Death Star to destroy it. Luke destroyed the first Death Star, Lando destroyed the second one.
not just Anakin (Vader) throwing the Emperor down that shaft.
Yeah, Palpatine getting the shaft(hah hah) had nothing to do with it. And apparently, that explosion wasn't that bad because "Somehow, Palpatine survived."
Yes, it was a team effort. Anakin had the least to do about it, he only helped Luke survive. Also it seems not even Death Star exploding could kill the Emperor :D
It was what Leia did in Disney War when she was in space but x100

Can you imagine Emperor first creating a force shield that protects him from exploding Death Star and then using Force to not breath while moving slowly towards Endor (or whatever planet was closest), it would probably take years at that speed :D
 

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DARK SIDE POINTS GAINED.

Also, you meant to say Luke Skywalker, I think.
No, I was saying what the actor said. That was my point, the actor said, twice, that it was Anakin destroyed the Death Star. And this was said after he was talking about how big of a Star Wars fan he was in the first interview. In the second interview, Daphne Keene was sitting beside him and told him to stop talking, to which he doubled down. I think pretty much everyone knows that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star, even those who don't claim to be "big fans" of Star Wars.
The showrunner specifically referred to her as "Darth Traya" and not Kreia which leads me to believe that she just glanced at a fan wiki. No one actually calls her "Darth Traya" (an identity and outlook she had long abandoned).
I agree. I would be willing to bet that there's a decent amount of people who have played, and finished, the game that don't even remember her Sith name. It's not mentioned very much compared to "Kreia". They'd probably remember after hearing the name, but I'd bet they couldn't remember it on their own.
My feeling is that actor was talking about 2nd Death Star because Anakin throws Emperor down the tube and things start to explode. If he watched it only as a kid he might have forgot about the part when Han Solo blows up the energy generator in the middle of it.
That actor and all other nuSW faggots are rage/fanbaiting cause their overlords still think that hype such outrageous comments produce will be net positive.
"No negative publicity", but we will see if that is still valid strategy for selling shitty shows.
 

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KotOR 2 is WHY we're getting shit like the Acolyte. The showrunner is there trying to subvert things (while self-inserting) just like she believes Kreia and Rian Johnson did before her. (She specifically called Kreia out in an interview.)

The problem is it's a lot like the current gen of writers who try to copy Whedon's style without any actual depth... if you don't have the underlying knowledge and skill, are you're doing is imitating and we end up getting facile, surface-level crap that makes no sense.

I think the people working on current Star Wars are so entitled, secure, and privileged in their position that they don't even give the lore a first thought. It's like the typical snob owning a race horse - they didn't train it, or know anything about it, but take credit when it wins. Once upon a time they might have know how to ride it, but the current gen are just there for the credit and after party.
 

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Yeah, the second Death Star was destroyed by a proud malt liquor enthusiast and a hilarious asian caricature:

iu

That modern Hollywood would steal the valor of these brave POC is beyond outrageous.
How the fuck do you get Asian from the monkey played by a Kenyan speaking Haya?
 

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Yeah, the second Death Star was destroyed by a proud malt liquor enthusiast and a hilarious asian caricature:

iu

That modern Hollywood would steal the valor of these brave POC is beyond outrageous.
How the fuck do you get Asian from the monkey played by a Kenyan speaking Haya?
My brother always joked that the dude was Italian whenever we watched Return of the Jedi.
 

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