Gothic Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos mod for Gothic 2

[Jvegi]

Birds are getting added

Are they going to shit on the player, or is the 'game' shitty enough?

 

[Junmarko]

Are they going to shit on the player, or is the 'game' shitty enough?

Go paint your nails.

 

[Jvegi]

Are they going to shit on the player, or is the 'game' shitty enough?

Go paint your nails.

Like I need you to remind me

 

[Spike]

Some new screenshots from 2.0 version not coming out this year btw. confirmed by a dev on steam forums.

Overhaul of the Wolfs Lair

Birds are getting added

Araxos gold mine got changed

One of the new monster contracts

Bros - does the changed mine look cooler? I am trying to decide if I should play this beautiful fellar this December and then replay when 2.0 comes out, or just wait until 2.0.

 

[ShiningSoldier]

I didn't like the Araxos mine quest. I think I did one thing wrong (something like "gave a beer to the guard"), and it locked me from joining the rebels - I had to kill them.

 

[Fargus]

I didn't like the Araxos mine quest. I think I did one thing wrong (something like "gave a beer to the guard"), and it locked me from joining the rebels - I had to kill them.

Archolos has some dumb shit like that. For example if you want to save Lorenzo at the end of the game, then you will have to keep Javad alive in one of the quests Cortez gives in CH3. And you will have to send him to the city instead of pirate haven.

 

[Krivol]

I didn't like the Araxos mine quest. I think I did one thing wrong (something like "gave a beer to the guard"), and it locked me from joining the rebels - I had to kill them.

Archolos has some dumb shit like that. For example if you want to save Lorenzo at the end of the game, then you will have to keep Javad alive in one of the quests Cortez gives in CH3. And you will have to send him to the city instead of pirate haven.

Isn't that like... choices and unforeseen consequences? Javad sent to the city becomes a guardian (?) of Lorenzo and saves his life. Is that wrong?

 

[Fargus]

I didn't like the Araxos mine quest. I think I did one thing wrong (something like "gave a beer to the guard"), and it locked me from joining the rebels - I had to kill them.

Archolos has some dumb shit like that. For example if you want to save Lorenzo at the end of the game, then you will have to keep Javad alive in one of the quests Cortez gives in CH3. And you will have to send him to the city instead of pirate haven.

Isn't that like... choices and unforeseen consequences? Javad sent to the city becomes a guardian (?) of Lorenzo and saves his life. Is that wrong?

Butterfly effect bullshit design tbh.

 

[notpl]

I didn't like the Araxos mine quest. I think I did one thing wrong (something like "gave a beer to the guard"), and it locked me from joining the rebels - I had to kill them.

Archolos has some dumb shit like that. For example if you want to save Lorenzo at the end of the game, then you will have to keep Javad alive in one of the quests Cortez gives in CH3. And you will have to send him to the city instead of pirate haven.

Isn't that like... choices and unforeseen consequences? Javad sent to the city becomes a guardian (?) of Lorenzo and saves his life. Is that wrong?

Butterfly effect bullshit design tbh.

Real life also this way.

 

[Ryzer]

overrated mod.

 

[Fargus]

I didn't like the Araxos mine quest. I think I did one thing wrong (something like "gave a beer to the guard"), and it locked me from joining the rebels - I had to kill them.

Archolos has some dumb shit like that. For example if you want to save Lorenzo at the end of the game, then you will have to keep Javad alive in one of the quests Cortez gives in CH3. And you will have to send him to the city instead of pirate haven.

Isn't that like... choices and unforeseen consequences? Javad sent to the city becomes a guardian (?) of Lorenzo and saves his life. Is that wrong?

Butterfly effect bullshit design tbh.

Real life also this way.

Tying the fate of a major character you worked with for the most of the game to a fate of some minor nigger you've met once in CH3 and most likely killed is not a very bright design choice.

 

[Fargus]

overrated mod.

It's good shit and worth playing.

 

[Marat]

Tying the fate of a major character you worked with for the most of the game to a fate of some minor nigger you've met once in CH3 and most likely killed is not a very bright design choice.

What a dumb take. It's not 'if you want to save Lorenzo[...]', it is 'if you save Javad and send him to the city he will intervene in future events such that Lorenzo survives'. You're not meant to actively steer the story to save Lorenzo, but to witness consequences to your supposedly innocuous decision. It's a design choice that does exactly what it set out to do. You observe the story and notice effects your prior decisions had in how it unfolded, not 'you look up consequences to choices three chapters apart and complain'. It's precisely meant to be a 'who would have known' kind of moment.

 

[Jvegi]

overrated mod.

It's good shit and worth playing.

FTFY

 

[Fargus]

Tying the fate of a major character you worked with for the most of the game to a fate of some minor nigger you've met once in CH3 and most likely killed is not a very bright design choice.

What a dumb take. It's not 'if you want to save Lorenzo[...]', it is 'if you save Javad and send him to the city he will intervene in future events such that Lorenzo survives'. You're not meant to actively steer the story to save Lorenzo, but to witness consequences to your supposedly innocuous decision. It's a design choice that does exactly what it set out to do. You observe the story and notice effects your prior decisions had in how it unfolded, not 'you look up consequences to choices three chapters apart and complain'. It's precisely meant to be a 'who would have known' kind of moment.

Marvin throws a banana peel in CH3 next to Volker's residence and the guy slips on it and snaps his neck in epilogue. Wow, look at the consequences of your actions!

Or you know they could have tied it to a quest or something related to Araxos Guild. Not a minor nigger in CH3.

 

[ShiningSoldier]

Tying the fate of a major character you worked with for the most of the game to a fate of some minor nigger you've met once in CH3 and most likely killed is not a very bright design choice.

What a dumb take. It's not 'if you want to save Lorenzo[...]', it is 'if you save Javad and send him to the city he will intervene in future events such that Lorenzo survives'. You're not meant to actively steer the story to save Lorenzo, but to witness consequences to your supposedly innocuous decision. It's a design choice that does exactly what it set out to do. You observe the story and notice effects your prior decisions had in how it unfolded, not 'you look up consequences to choices three chapters apart and complain'. It's precisely meant to be a 'who would have known' kind of moment.

Marvin throws a banana peel in CH3 next to Volker's residence and the guy slips on it and snaps his neck in epilogue. Wow, look at the consequences of your actions!

Or you know they could have tied it to a quest or something related to Araxos Guild. Not a minor nigger in CH3.

The banana peel example actually looks much more logical than what they did with Lorenzo in Archolos.

 

[Krivol]

Tying the fate of a major character you worked with for the most of the game to a fate of some minor nigger you've met once in CH3 and most likely killed is not a very bright design choice.

What a dumb take. It's not 'if you want to save Lorenzo[...]', it is 'if you save Javad and send him to the city he will intervene in future events such that Lorenzo survives'. You're not meant to actively steer the story to save Lorenzo, but to witness consequences to your supposedly innocuous decision. It's a design choice that does exactly what it set out to do. You observe the story and notice effects your prior decisions had in how it unfolded, not 'you look up consequences to choices three chapters apart and complain'. It's precisely meant to be a 'who would have known' kind of moment.

Marvin throws a banana peel in CH3 next to Volker's residence and the guy slips on it and snaps his neck in epilogue. Wow, look at the consequences of your actions!

Or you know they could have tied it to a quest or something related to Araxos Guild. Not a minor nigger in CH3.

I totally understand what you are trying to say - Lorenzo's fate should not be tied to a random guy in a random quest and a random solution. But sometimes it is like that...

 

[Marat]

It is tied to a quest. Namely the one where you spare Javad. Skilled warrior goes to the city and enters service with a mercenary guild. Then he takes an unforeseen role in unforeseen events. How exactly would you explicitly tie his fate to quests when you have no way of knowing what is going to happen.

 

[Jaesun]

Did we do a review of this? I may have missed it. Was wondering.

 

[Modron]

Did we do a review of this? I may have missed it. Was wondering.

Does not appear that we did, only result for myrtana in the news forum: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...or-gothic-ii-set-in-the-eastern-isles.141300/

Has the codex reviewed total conversions before?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Did we do a review of this? I may have missed it. Was wondering.

Does not appear that we did, only result for myrtana in the news forum: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...or-gothic-ii-set-in-the-eastern-isles.141300/

Has the codex reviewed total conversions before?

Think we did one for enderal

 

[agris]

Here's a graphics overhaul i did for the mod, if someone's interested. It also works for G2. Screenshots on the page (i use the G3D11 renderer + normal maps.)
https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic2/mods/91

Looks not-shit, nice! Does the engine support parallax textures and did you make use of them to add depth? E.g. for cobblestone textures.

I recently went through modding FNV and while wading through the swamp of texture mods I found many that I liked artistically, but had nonsensical resolutions and compression. You’ve been doing this for a while so I don’t mean to be insulting, but as much as the engine supports it, are you saving textures with appropriate mipmaps and compression? On the compression front, I’m thinking whatever the G2 engine equivalent is for using DXT1 on textures without an alpha channel, DXT3 for 1 bit alpha channels, and DXT5 for alpha gradients (not sure bit depth).

 

[Junmarko]

It's good shit and worth playing.

FTFY

Disco Elysium is waiting for you.

 

[Spike]

So is Araxos cool to explore now, please calm my 'tism. I kinda want to play it to see how it changes but I am not sure if I will play it again (then again, I love Gothic 1 and 2 and in lieu of replaying them, I am going to play Archolos)

 

[Darth Roxor]

Did we do a review of this? I may have missed it. Was wondering.

i was planning one until i realised the game is shit and i cant be bothered finishing it