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Colony Ship Early Access Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Cnaiur

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That's fine, everyone should not be able to buy any game they want.
 

just

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imagine buying a role playing rpg game and then make a character who talks good
 
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Jaedar

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imagine buying a role playing rpg game and then make a character who talks good
There are some quests and seemingly-optimal-outcomes-for-everyone-on-the-ship-but-who-knows-game-isn't-done that are only available if you can speechify people. Basically the whole habitat section has a lot of brick walls if you can't talk. Which makes sense, it's a civilized area, you can't just shoot all your problems.

There are of course also less civilized places where if you can't shoot everything that moves you're not going to get the best things.
 

Modron

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Yeah, too expensive. I liked AoD and Dungeon Rats just fine but they're not among my favorites. Played through a couple of times and haven't touched them since. This does sound better, but 25€ is still about max I'd pay (but would be willing to pay more if there was a Linux version). The setting is really appealing, tho...
So why didn't you buy it when it was cheaper than that?
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
It's almost as if some people aren't aware you can buy a game in Early Access at a lower price, to support the developer during the game's development when funds are needed most, and then not play it until full release.

It is, indeed, possible to buy a game now then wait a few months or years before you play it.

Same with people asking "When does this come out?"

It is out. It's not finished yet, but it's out - you can purchase it right now.
If you want to support the developer, and you intend to play it on release anyway, why not buy it right now? Why wait? Go ahead, give Vince your money.
 

0sacred

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Their games are annoying asf you are presented wutg this traditional character creation menu but its a class based one in disguise. There really is no character customization cause if you deviate your stats and skill a tiny bit your from the recommended options you are going to have awful time.

I thought it left a bit more wiggle room than AoD, but yeah
 

Athena

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It's almost as if some people aren't aware you can buy a game in Early Access at a lower price, to support the developer during the game's development when funds are needed most, and then not play it until full release.
Early access is a scummy anti-consumer practice. Paying for the benefit of being a beta tester, no thanks. It's got to the point where we have to be grateful to iron out the bugs in behalf of the devs.
 

StrongBelwas

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Early access is a scummy anti-consumer practice. Paying for the benefit of being a beta tester, no thanks. It's got to the point where we have to be grateful to iron out the bugs in behalf of the devs.
When larger companies do it I generally agree, but I don't really see better options for a legitimately indie company like Iron Tower to figure out exactly what needs fixing and keep the lights on. It's a reasonable enough compromise.
 

JarlFrank

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I'm not betatesting, I just bought the game and let it sit in my library until 1.0.

It's basically telling the dev "I like what you're doing, here's some money for the game you're working on". Perfectly acceptable for indie developers you trust.
 

Lord_Potato

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It's almost as if some people aren't aware you can buy a game in Early Access at a lower price, to support the developer during the game's development when funds are needed most, and then not play it until full release.
Early access is a scummy anti-consumer practice. Paying for the benefit of being a beta tester, no thanks. It's got to the point where we have to be grateful to iron out the bugs in behalf of the devs.
You. Don't. Have. To. Beta. Test.

You just give the money to indie developer now, when he needs it most, instead of in a year or two. And he gets funds to finish the game.

Whether you play it in EA or only after full release - it's totally up to you. I promise. Nobody's verifying that.
 

Jinn

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Perfectly acceptable for indie developers you trust.
Yeah, this about the only time I find Early Access acceptable these days: if it's from a developer I already trust and has produced results in the past, and they clearly need some financial assistance. Otherwise I understand the general repulsion towards EA very well. It's a bunch of bullshit 90% of the time.

Anyway, buy Colony Ship! Then buy another copy for a friend at v1.0 to help get them visibility on their release!
 

luj1

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Playing the demo and not really seeing it tbh

- camera is fucking weird, same as AoD. Makes the whole trip a little cumbersome
- writing is meh
- world is okay, kinda reminds me of The Expanse
- chargen is the same shit as Fallout. Don't like cheap cloning of systems a la ATOM. Try something original after 20 years of RPG design ethos ffs
- music is generic trash but who gives a fuck

TLDR feels very AoD-y and probably runs on the same engine, expected something way less derivative
 

mold

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Yeah, too expensive. I liked AoD and Dungeon Rats just fine but they're not among my favorites. Played through a couple of times and haven't touched them since. This does sound better, but 25€ is still about max I'd pay (but would be willing to pay more if there was a Linux version). The setting is really appealing, tho...
So why didn't you buy it when it was cheaper than that?
I was having my gaming midlife crisis and not paying attention. I can wait until the game goes on sale, did not mean to whine about that. But I am in the target audience, have a passion for scifi, played the devs previous games with moderate enthusiasm and I still consider the price too high. What about everyone else outside the core group of fans? Who's really gonna pay that much for a random indie when there are so many other options at that price point? Not the people I know.

But I hope it goes well for ITS. I'd like to see them continue making games.
 

Vault Dweller

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For the record, AoD was $29.99 on release (we gradually reduced the price over the years). Colony Ship is $10 more, which is fitting considering the engine and the licensing fee.

90% of people buy the game when it's on sale (even if the price is $4.99), so paying full price is basically buying a supporter's edition these days. There will be a 25% discount on release, so the effective price will be $29.99.
 

SpaceWizardz

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- camera is fucking weird, same as AoD. Makes the whole trip a little cumbersome
Agreed, really needs a follow player toggle and they should probably reduce how far you can zoom out so you can't see the edges of the environment.
- writing is meh
Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them, the overly utilitarian dialogue choices are also a bit dull.
- chargen is the same shit as Fallout. Don't like cheap cloning of systems a la ATOM. Try something original after 20 years of RPG design ethos ffs
Very few games use Fallout as a reference point, let alone cook up an entirely new ruleset of their own. I don't see an issue especially when CS systems are much more deliberate and finely-tuned than ATOM's.
 

Elhoim

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It's almost as if some people aren't aware you can buy a game in Early Access at a lower price, to support the developer during the game's development when funds are needed most, and then not play it until full release.
Early access is a scummy anti-consumer practice. Paying for the benefit of being a beta tester, no thanks. It's got to the point where we have to be grateful to iron out the bugs in behalf of the devs.
You. Don't. Have. To. Beta. Test.

You just give the money to indie developer now, when he needs it most, instead of in a year or two. And he gets funds to finish the game.

Whether you play it in EA or only after full release - it's totally up to you. I promise. Nobody's verifying that.

While the bug reports are definitely helpful, it's more about getting feedback on the design and influence it. We tweaked and changed a lot of the game based on the player's feedback, which is even more important than the bug-fixing.

Agreed, really needs a follow player toggle and they should probably reduce how far you can zoom out so you can't see the edges of the environment.

Follow camera is on the works, and we fixed a lot of environment edges in the upcoming update.
 

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Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them
Maybe he got hit on the head and lost his memory?
 

Takamori

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Uhh maybe he was retarded and recently they discovered some biotech bullshit that cured his retarded condition but he still need to learn shit :lol:
 

Jaedar

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90% of people buy the game when it's on sale (even if the price is $4.99), so paying full price is basically buying a supporter's edition these days. There will be a 25% discount on release, so the effective price will be $29.99.
Steam sales and their consequences have been a disaster for gaming.
 

Iluvcheezcake

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Uhh maybe he was retarded and recently they discovered some biotech bullshit that cured his retarded condition but he still need to learn shit :lol:
I heard the MC accidentally locked himself inside his container for years and years, only spent time eating rations and practicing and got his skills all to lvl 1 by the time you start the game.
Thats why he lives in the Pit and still knows nothing about people/places.
 

jackofshadows

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- camera is fucking weird, same as AoD. Makes the whole trip a little cumbersome
See that's why I disagree with ITS desicion to make an odd compromise and fix camera while having 3d enviroment. Fucks like these won't even notice the difference anyway.
- chargen is the same shit as Fallout. Don't like cheap cloning of systems a la ATOM. Try something original after 20 years of RPG design ethos ffs
ATOM is in fact a Fallout clone both in terms of chargen and game mechanics while here that's misleading same as with UnderRail. Chargen resembles Fallout obviously but for one this game has learn by doing progress system. And by the way, was you bothered by lack of innovations in case of Grimoire?
 

kangaxx

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It's almost as if some people aren't aware you can buy a game in Early Access at a lower price, to support the developer during the game's development when funds are needed most, and then not play it until full release.

It is, indeed, possible to buy a game now then wait a few months or years before you play it.

Same with people asking "When does this come out?"

It is out. It's not finished yet, but it's out - you can purchase it right now.
If you want to support the developer, and you intend to play it on release anyway, why not buy it right now? Why wait? Go ahead, give Vince your money.
I bought it ages ago and am waiting until the full release to play it. In my experience it's better that way than to play a portion of the game, leave it and then have to come back and redo everything.
 

Iluvcheezcake

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It's almost as if some people aren't aware you can buy a game in Early Access at a lower price, to support the developer during the game's development when funds are needed most, and then not play it until full release.

It is, indeed, possible to buy a game now then wait a few months or years before you play it.

Same with people asking "When does this come out?"

It is out. It's not finished yet, but it's out - you can purchase it right now.
If you want to support the developer, and you intend to play it on release anyway, why not buy it right now? Why wait? Go ahead, give Vince your money.
I bought it ages ago and am waiting until the full release to play it. In my experience it's better that way than to play a portion of the game, leave it and then have to come back and redo everything.
While i do agree with you on that, CS is one of the rare games that is worth redoing in EA, and especially once it hits 1.0
 

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