Colony Ship Early Access Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[JarlFrank]

Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them

Maybe he got hit on the head and lost his memory?

He's a shut-in nerd who never interacted with anyone outside his basement before (most relateable character for Codexers).

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them

Maybe he got hit on the head and lost his memory?

He's a shut-in nerd who never interacted with anyone outside his basement before (most relateable character for Codexers).

That would explain '1' in all skills

 

[Jaedar]

Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them

Maybe he got hit on the head and lost his memory?

He's a shut-in nerd who never interacted with anyone outside his basement before (most relateable character for Codexers).

That would explain '1' in all skills

Protag doesn't have 1 in all skills though. You get at least one tagged skill and a few skill points to distribute as the game starts, as well as a feat.
I agree that the intro can feel a bit awkward (like needing to ask who Mercy is, or where her fort is located, or what's up with the arena), feels like they could have put a few questions about the pit and your relation to it and its inhabitants in the optional starting poll or something.

 

[luj1]

- camera is fucking weird, same as AoD. Makes the whole trip a little cumbersome

Agreed, really needs a follow player toggle and they should probably reduce how far you can zoom out so you can't see the edges of the environment.

Yup, definitely

Poor camera implementation can lessen the experience for me, like in AoD or NwN 2

- writing is meh

Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them, the overly utilitarian dialogue choices are also a bit dull.

Yeah I am not seeing many dialogue choices nor interesting ones. It's all very basic and comes down to accepting/declining quests and offers.

I don't think the protagonist being someone "who has always lived in the Pit" is the problem here

- chargen is the same shit as Fallout. Don't like cheap cloning of systems a la ATOM. Try something original after 20 years of RPG design ethos ffs

Very few games use Fallout as a reference point, let alone cook up an entirely new ruleset of their own. I don't see an issue especially when CS systems are much more deliberate and finely-tuned than ATOM's.

No, you are right, ATOM is a blatant clone

However I didn't talk about the systems overall, but the chargen

 

[luj1]

- camera is fucking weird, same as AoD. Makes the whole trip a little cumbersome

See that's why I disagree with ITS desicion to make an odd compromise and fix camera while having 3d enviroment. Fucks like these won't even notice the difference anyway.

What?

ATOM is in fact a Fallout clone both in terms of chargen and game mechanics while here that's misleading same as with UnderRail. Chargen resembles Fallout obviously but for one this game has learn by doing progress system.

The chargen in Colony Ship is the same shit as Fallout

Skill tags, "Gifted" trait, etc. It's just boring

Attributes are almost the same as SPECIAL

And by the way, was you bothered by lack of innovations in case of Grimoire?

Like what? Grimoire has a unique character system. I doubt you have played it

You can migrate to and from various classes infinitely. I have only seen Bradley's Wizards & Warriors try something similar but it's still not that

Also different class and race combinations have different bonuses. And you have some really original stats like Spirit and Age, which I have never seen attempted before

I played the demo of Grimoire before 2012 and the chargen was quite complex, whereas here it's dull. Just an honest opinion

 

[jackofshadows]

Like what? Grimoire has a unique character system. I doubt you have played it

I haven't but as far as I know, it has lots of similiarities with Wiz7, is it not? Which is absolutely fine, just as Fallout -> UR/AoD/subj. Unlike various clones, these games are merely inspired by Fallout. Just implying your take seems as a biased one. I have a bias to, mind you, just an opposite one.

 

[luj1]

Like what? Grimoire has a unique character system. I doubt you have played it

I haven't but as far as I know, it has lots of similiarities with Wiz7, is it not? Which is absolutely fine, just as Fallout -> UR/AoD/subj. Unlike various clones, these games are merely inspired by Fallout. Just implying you take seems as a biased one. I have a bias to, mind you, just an opposite one.

I am going to play this again when it is released but character building looks meh and too derivative

My advice to the devs is to expand on different types of traits (such as those "on kill" traits or "on hit", etc). It's easily the most interesting part of the system

 

[Technomancer]

Writing is weakest at the very beginning, there's a lot of awkwardness in having the protagonist be someone who's always lived in The Pit while still needing things to be explained to them, the overly utilitarian dialogue choices are also a bit dull.

Mentioned it before, VD promised to revisit it. He just didn't have the time.

I have problems with how the dialogue is portrayed @Vault Dweller . During the early segments of the game, the MC asks questions like if he was a fresh arrival on the ship, not a born and bred denizen who lived his entire life (until now) in the pit doing odd jobs here and there.

VD already agreed to change it. I promised to send him a list with all of the instances and suggestions with more organic phrases.

I did actually follow through on that promise. Delayed it forever and I hated doing that lol. Even something so insignificant requires a lot focus

Spoiler

He also reconfirmed recently that itz happening.

 

[mold]

Ok, bought the game and been playing for a couple of days (just entering the Habitat). It's turning out to be better than expected. Still not a fan of the stiff design when it comes to quests, story progress and skill challenges, but it's much improved from AoD. I've got a melee guy with two ranged followers and combat is often fairly challenging, but aside from some optional encounters it's not all that difficult. Feels maybe easier than AoD. Being as simple as it is, it gets a bit samey, though - this kind of combat arena design would be much more enjoyable if it was something like Blackguards with battles more like tactical puzzles with environmental interaction/hazards. Some areas are a bit large considering how little there is to do, but at least they're interesting enough to look at (though sometimes a little too dark on my screen). As for story and characters, there hasn't been anything particularly memorable yet, but the setting is very cool indeed and I love the overall tone of it. I'm not sure if Colony Ship is intended more as a story game or a combat game, but I don't think it's entirely satisfying as either. Still pretty good. Probably won't have time to play when the full release happens, but will be recommending to some of my friends and enemies.

 

[Technomancer]

Being as simple as it is, it gets a bit samey, though - this kind of combat arena design would be much more enjoyable if it was something like Blackguards with battles more like tactical puzzles with environmental interaction/hazards

Didn't care for blackguards 2 tbh. Heard a lot of praise for it but after I tried it, tactics in it didn't grab me in the same way Iron Tower games did. Dropped it maybe half way, in the city with the arena.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I hope you didn't start with Blackguards 2 which is inferior to its predecessor in every bloody way. First game is good but it came in a time when we were counting turn based RPGs that released in a with one hand only. Kında saved us from starvation.

 

[Technomancer]

I hope you didn't start with Blackguards 2 which is inferior to its predecessor in every bloody way. First game is good but it came in a time when we were counting turn based RPGs that released in a with one hand only. Kında saved us from starvation.

Very much did. Usually game 2 is superior if all things went right.

 

[xuerebx]

I hope you didn't start with Blackguards 2 which is inferior to its predecessor in every bloody way. First game is good but it came in a time when we were counting turn based RPGs that released in a with one hand only. Kında saved us from starvation.

Very much did. Usually game 2 is superior if all things went right.

That's the biggest assumption I've read all day

 

[agris]

I hope you didn't start with Blackguards 2 which is inferior to its predecessor in every bloody way. First game is good but it came in a time when we were counting turn based RPGs that released in a with one hand only. Kında saved us from starvation.

Very much did. Usually game 2 is superior if all things went right.

Your insane assumption aside, blaggards 1 is by far the superior tactics game

 

[Jaedar]

Orud As was foretold, steam sales have permanently devalued games to the point where the base price barely matters, because 90% of the customers get it on sale. AAA survives fine because of the hype machine so they pull in day1 sales, but indies (that already sell for a third of full price) get shafted.

 

[Technomancer]

That's the biggest assumption I've read all day

I mean it looked more fun from a side glance. First game was stuck in dungeon or some shit and second game was rail roaded adventure. Assuming the gameplay was roughly the same, I picked the one that sounded more fun.

 

[POOPERSCOOPER]

I bought the game, I don't know if I will end up getting around to playing it but I do it to support Vince. What have you done lately to support Vince?

 

[mindx2]

November 9th!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jinn]

I don't know if I will end up getting around to playing it

Like, ever? Or just around release?

 

[Cyberarmy]

November 9th!!!!!!!!!

Just after my birthday!!!!

 

[thesecret1]

October 31st - Tamriel Rebuilt releases new landmass
November 1st - Underrail gets new DLC
November 9th - Colony Ship Releases

Halloween of incline

 

[kangaxx]

Very much looking forward to playing this one.

 

[motherfucker]

Played the demo and was very impressed by it, the dev sure seems to have learned from AoD's mistakes. That thing is fucking extensive, too, took me like 10 hours. I understand it's just a cut version of the actual game so I basically spoiled the beginning for myself?
Also, can anyone spoonfeed me on skill training math in regards to learning from mentors, tag skills etc.? Should I train a skill and tag it afterwards or it doesn't matter? What about tokens?

 

[Vault Dweller]

Played the demo and was very impressed by it, the dev sure seems to have learned from AoD's mistakes. That thing is fucking extensive, too, took me like 10 hours. I understand it's just a cut version of the actual game so I basically spoiled the beginning for myself?

It's the first chapter in full. If you buy the game later you'll be able to load your demo save and continue playing.

Also, can anyone spoonfeed me on skill training math in regards to learning from mentors, tag skills etc.? Should I train a skill and tag it afterwards or it doesn't matter? What about tokens?

The tag adds two ranks on top of what you have. It's not affected by the training.

 

[motherfucker]

The tag adds two ranks on top of what you have. It's not affected by the training.

What about training and putting in skill points during chargen? Will that make training less beneficial?