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Dan Vavra presents: "100 reasons, why I hate Skyrim."

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by dannyfx1, May 2, 2013.

  1. dannyfx1 Cipher

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    Daniel.Vavra Make an English version of this and it gets a newspost (and you get sued :smug: )

    Also wrong forum, OP is a fag, etc
     
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    I like how he implies than FNV is worse than Oblivion and FO3 in the first sentence, making it easy to ignore the rest of the text, due to author's complete lack of good judgement.
    So much time saved.
    :bro:

    EDIT: wrong translation, apparently.
     
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    I like having someone with a bit of exposure saying stuff like this, gives me a bit of hope.

    Still, the 100-list format seems like a bad move here, as it dissolves the argument into tiny pieces and makes it look like he is just nit-picking a bunch of stuff instead of having a really strong point.
     
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    Heh, takes me back to the last time Daniel posted on the Codex and got into a huge argument about the definition of an RPG. Wonder if he'll ever visit again.
     
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    I'm no Czech expert, but I think that the original article doesn't put it that way :roll:
     
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    I haven't played Skyrim and i'm guessing that this was translated in google translate or something, but what's the meaning of

    "What is worst that graphic designers in Bethesda are still able to map on a side of pole wood and the other side concrete"

    ?
     
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    1. This is a rant and not a very smart one.
    2. It makes Vavra look like a D-bag and a graphic whore.

    So i guess the question is : does he plan to outtodd Todd or is it just an awkward, angry way to dismiss the omnipresent reference in open-world gaming (or both) ?
     
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    Kinda old news.
     
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    Yes, and he did wrote a more coherent and general rant in english afterwards on his blog, pointing some of Skyrim flaws afaik.
     
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    i just don't understand what that means. what happens in skyrim that marks wood on one side and concrete on the other?
     
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  13. DragoFireheart all caps, rainbow colors, SOMETHING.

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    Speaking of graphics and shadows:

    Does anyone else think the shadowing done in Dragon's Dogma was done decently?
     
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    It's not; he says:
    "I played Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I love western RPGs."
     
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    Can't wait to see the Oblivion-like game he's working on now. Going to bet it suffers from at least half of those flaws he's listed.
     
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    IIRC he's working on a non-fantasy medieval RPG.
    When I read about it some months ago I thought this is either gonna be absolutely brilliant or (more likely) end up being the mother of all hiking simulators.
     
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    So I expect a good article detailing Skyrim's many horrible failings...
    Oh.

    Those are actually true, but still given how horrible Skyrim UI is, it baffles that only 7 out of 18 criticisms would be actually damning.

    "Meh" category - stuff that's either ambiguous, mildly bad, or better than the alternative in the context.
    Compass with fuckloads of icons is shit anyway and kills exploration, so who cares if it shows the markers or not - the best you can do is switching it off with a mod anyway.
    Map, or perk menus are indeed form-over-function but I'd consider them usable enough. Then again, maybe enduring the intense, excessive horror of the inventory, favourites, and spell menus has desensitized me to bad design.
    Lack of breath meter or funny way of showing health damage are inconvenient, but hardly crippling - count how many old FPS games had underwater breath meter.
    Given how this game drops quest hooks on your lap and how much of a clusterfuck the journal is, you should be happy that every quest received doesn't automatically set itself as active, or you wouldn't see the map from under all the fucking markers.




    "Bwuh?" category - must be some derpy consoletard shit or something.
    On PC you have quicksave and the game fucking autosaves if you go into inventory after a longer while of not doing so. It's configurable too.

    I'm not going to step by step that, but it's either false "waah! Skyrim has fugly designed environments and speedtree looked better!", nitpicking "waah! I have skewed camera angle when I wake up on a prisoner wagon!", cpt. Obvious "waah Bethpizda does buggy unoptimized games since 1995!" or doesn't single Skyrim out "waah! texture resolution is shit and bumpmaps are even shittier!".


    I expected something intelligent, detailing why exactly it was horribly Moronic for beth to drop attributes, spellmaker and some skills, why you shouldn't be omgchosenone right after joining every guild, why dragons as Cliffracers 2.0 are the exact opposite of awesome, and why dumbing down isn't the way to go.

    I got graphics whoreism and potshots at skyrim's shitty UI, with a lot of misses even against such an easy target.
    :declining:
     
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    Consoletard consoletard is consoletard.

    Developer in particular should have known better than to get a TES game for anything but PC.

    Complaint about intro sequence is particularly derp, because it boils down to "WAAAH! bethesduh should redo a not-insubstantial part of the gameworld because I dislike how camera works on the wagon".
    If only Skyrim was flawless to the point of there being no ways to drive it into the ground but by nitpicking some inane and unimportant shit, but there are!
     
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    could be worse, they could have let you ride one into the underworld to slay the ultimate cliffracer 3.0
     
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    Syphilis. A disease that makes you insane and die in terrible pain. The 'majority of men would not hold back'.

    Stopped reading right there. Fuck the retard writer (or not, he's probably infected).
     
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    Fucking pathetic apologist and retard. "OH! I totally hate this game, it's so shit! I just play it because there is no other game like that! Fallout, Arcanum, Gothic, Risen, Baldur's Gate, Morrowind and so on do not exist, therefore Skyrim is the only open world RPG! Don't hate me, I have no other choice but to play this!!!"

    This guy is dumb as shit.
     
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    It's probably a clumsy and crude and stupid and objectionable attempt to 'relate' to the expected audience of the article. Good luck with that *sound of hydraulic door closing hermetically*
     
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    He is just too much nitpicky, trying to score I'm cool points. He is right, but he is only trying to get attention, anyone with taste already know those issues and the retards are going to say: LEAVE SKYRIM ALONE!!! . The media is too busy sucking Bethesda for those sweet publisher moneys. He is just risking burning bridges with an important publisher to say nothing new. If he want to prove that he is better than Bethesda he should prove it by releasing his kinda vapourware game and if it is awesome, we would have something to show instead of just empty posturing.
     
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    Brace yourselves, men! Ho, thar swim the great whale! Glistening, blubberous flesh at once reeking and aromatic. It moves beneath our sun, the keeper of the dial, the mover of our world. Kin we not resist? Why are we drawn to such a beast? This ugliest of sirens? What else does it hold, for we can only see thar upon its face hieroglyphics. Interpretations elusive. Beliefs dogmatic. Man can't hold its shapes, much less grasp them. Presentation makes us licentious. Let it dive! Let it go! But we can't. Thar before us the great white whale!
     
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    There are literally dozens of perfectly valid reasons to hate Skyrim, and this guy decides to skip most of them in favour of nitpicking extremely trivial mistakes or design missteps.
     
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