From Software Dark Souls 3

[toro]

I complain a lot about it but the last weekend I installed DaS1 again and ... I cannot go back. The game is easy as fuck after playing DaS3.

Therefore I bought the DaS3 season pass ... ... at least it will some new areas. Right !?

 

[sullynathan]

I complain a lot about it but the last weekend I installed DaS1 again and ... I cannot go back. The game is easy as fuck after playing DaS3.

Therefore I bought the DaS3 season pass ... ... at least it will some new areas. Right !?

So you agree that what I said a couple months ago was true. Each souls game is progressively more difficult than the last and DS3 is the most difficult. Unless you're doing SL1 stuff, then it should be a cake walk. Yeah, PvP is still a mess in DS1.

 

[hackncrazy]

What, you guys really think that DS3 is harder than 1?

I don't know if I've played too much of DS3, but I think that is the easiest on the series, even easier than DaS2.

In fact, the only bosses that gave me anything similar to a problem was the final four (Dancer, Armour, Princes and SoC). Even with this, they were only a problem because out of nowhere, the game thought it was a great idea to take the damage enemies dealt to you and multiply by 3.

Before Dancer, if I died 5 times in all bosses to that point, it was too much.

Not to say the amount of horrible bosses this game have: Vordt (great soundtrack, visually impressive, easiest boss ever), Deacons, Sage, Fucking YHORM (for me, Yhorm could be one of the best bosses in the series, but the first time they make a giant boss that doesn't behave like it was a turtle, they turn it into a gimmick).

 

[sullynathan]

Dark Souls 3 is easy because you've already played Souls 1, 2, demons souls and bloodborne. Go back to Souls 1 and it is a cake walk. It also has as many good boss fights as DS1 too.

 

[vortex]

http://fextralife.com/dark-souls-3-teases-ashes-of-ariandel-pvp-trailer-coming-next-week/

15 New Weapons and 4 Armor Sets
4 New Sorceries, Miracles, Pyromancies
2 New Bosses

 

[sullynathan]

man, it seems really small. Even the artorias DLC had 4 bosses

 

[Hyperion]

They already said it's going to be split in half with the two halves being comparable to Artorias.

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

And those 2 bosses seem to have very distinct stages. sword&board guy+big wolf and then scythe lady+vessel guy. i hope they are as difficult as Ludwig&Orphan of Kos

 

[Perkel]

They already said it's going to be split in half with the two halves being comparable to Artorias.

hopefully part 2 will be in next 2-3 months max not half a year later.

 

[cvv]

They already said it's going to be split in half with the two halves being comparable to Artorias.

Come again? So DS3 has two DLCs and both of them combined are about as big as Artorias? It's a good thing then I got my game with the season pass from G2A for half the price.

Oh and DS3 is definitelly the hardest. Couldn't beat 4 bosses without help (Dancer, Sulyvahn, Princes, Nameless) and and it took me like 30 attempts for the Watchers, Armour and SoC).

 

[Perkel]

yeah ds3 is hardest of them all and this is considering wealth of experience i gained through DeS/DS1/DS2.

though it depends if you play solo or not. I soloed whole game and game was def hardest of them all.
With multi it bacame a joke mostly though it isn't any different than rest of DS games.

normal mobs are way beyond those of earlier games. Especially since few could be bosses themselves (like that frosty dude)

 

[Declinator]

yeah ds3 is hardest of them all and this is considering wealth of experience i gained through DeS/DS1/DS2.

though it depends if you play solo or not. I soloed whole game and game was def hardest of them all.
With multi it bacame a joke mostly though it isn't any different than rest of DS games.

normal mobs are way beyond those of earlier games. Especially since few could be bosses themselves (like that frosty dude)

None of the bosses in DS3 were as tough as Fume Knight or even O&S. If not for Pontiff and Nameless I'd say it's the easiest of the series as far as bosses go (including Demon's Souls.)
Solo obviously.

Dark Souls 2 had tougher mobs. Stunlocking is too easy in DS3.

However, the mini version of Vordt (outrider knight? probably the very same frosty dude) was perhaps the toughest recurring special enemy in the series.

Oh and DS3 is definitelly the hardest. Couldn't beat 4 bosses without help (Dancer, Sulyvahn, Princes, Nameless) and and it took me like 30 attempts for the Watchers, Armour and SoC).

While I'm not a particular fan of the saying, you should git gud. When you are that bad I don't have much confidence in your ability to assess the challenge level.

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

What, you guys really think that DS3 is harder than 1?

I don't know if I've played too much of DS3, but I think that is the easiest on the series, even easier than DaS2.

In fact, the only bosses that gave me anything similar to a problem was the final four (Dancer, Armour, Princes and SoC). Even with this, they were only a problem because out of nowhere, the game thought it was a great idea to take the damage enemies dealt to you and multiply by 3.

Before Dancer, if I died 5 times in all bosses to that point, it was too much.

Not to say the amount of horrible bosses this game have: Vordt (great soundtrack, visually impressive, easiest boss ever), Deacons, Sage, Fucking YHORM (for me, Yhorm could be one of the best bosses in the series, but the first time they make a giant boss that doesn't behave like it was a turtle, they turn it into a gimmick).

Most difficulty for me came not from bosses but from mobs and level layouts. I had no problem with any boss except for Nameless King and Yhorm (before discovering the meme weapon). Game's a one off, imho.

 

[cvv]

Oh and DS3 is definitelly the hardest. Couldn't beat 4 bosses without help (Dancer, Sulyvahn, Princes, Nameless) and and it took me like 30 attempts for the Watchers, Armour and SoC).

While I'm not a particular fan of the saying, you should git gud. When you are that bad I don't have much confidence in your ability to assess the challenge level.

Don't be a child. Who's more capable to asses the challenge level? The dude who ran through the game naked without leveling and/or dying, including the Nameless? What can HE tell us except that the game is piss easy? I'm an average casual, just like majority of people who play the game, and we're the best equipped to judge how hard or easy it is. DS3 gave me more trouble than DS1 therefore it's harder, simple as that.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Bloodborne is exactly the same as DS1 - great beginning and midgame, then mediocre endgame. It starts going to shit about the time you reach the snake area in Forbidden Woods.

DA FUCK?

the best encounter is AFTER, and the Shadows of Yarnham are great. But, to each his own. I was talking about the 3 npc battle.


also, as far as Dark Souls 3 is concerned, it's the end of a trilogy. it tries to replicate moments we loved from previous titles. it's Metroid Prime 3. it's good for what it is, hell it may even have a great moment or two, but it's swallowed in the shadow cast by its forebears.

You think the 3 NPC encounter in Yahar'gul is actually good? Are you also perhaps a huge fan of the Bloody Crow?

That aside, I do agree that Shadows are one of the best bossfights in the game.

There's a case to be made for the DS2 DLCs being better than DS3 (especially Ivory and Old Iron King ones) but the base game of 2 with its mediocre world design (falls in the typical trap of dragging you from one zone to another whitout ever giving you the impression of being in an actual believable world), filler content, pushover bosses and not-100%-there melee combat is obviously inferior to 3. Anyone who says otherwise is a tryhard. Hopefully the upcoming DS3 DLCs will do the same for the latest one as the King DLCs did for 2.

Nothing like fans of DS3's spammy, boring combat calling others tryhards for liking DS2's superior mechanics.

 

[sullynathan]

None of the bosses in DS3 were as tough as Fume Knight or even O&S. If not for Pontiff and Nameless I'd say it's the easiest of the series as far as bosses go (including Demon's Souls.)
Solo obviously.

Dark Souls 2 had tougher mobs. Stunlocking is too easy in DS3.

Try not to compare the DLC bosses to the main bosses.

O&S is easier than nameless king. Pontiff is easy as fuck, all you codexers are shitty. I remember people pages ago complaining about how hard it is because they couldn't time their evasions or block.

Stun locking is a bigger bitch in souls 2 than it is in souls 3. At least in souls 3,you can evade quickly enough and the combat speed is faster.

 

[cvv]

Nothing like fans of DS3's spammy, boring combat calling others tryhards for liking DS2's superior mechanics.

Superior mechanics like the backstab spam? MPing in DS2 is not a fight but faggy ritual dance. Combat in DS3 is less deliberate and more about stunlockstunlockstunlock, I give you that, but at least they dealt with the fucking retarded backstab mechanics.

I thought you might make this argument but the way I see it, if there are three people in a classroom, an average student, an all A's student, and a retard, the one with the most valuable opinion about the difficulty of the class is not the one who is mentally deficient but the one who is average. I'm afraid that you are the metaphorical retard in the classroom.I think I'm closer to the average.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

 

[praetor]

if you got backstabbed multiple times in DaS2 PvP you're either even dumber than Declinator claims, or you never played the game.

 

[cvv]

This thread sure is full of butthurt autist fanboys. Have you guys been hurting their feels while I was away?

 

[Declinator]

None of the bosses in DS3 were as tough as Fume Knight or even O&S. If not for Pontiff and Nameless I'd say it's the easiest of the series as far as bosses go (including Demon's Souls.)
Solo obviously.

Dark Souls 2 had tougher mobs. Stunlocking is too easy in DS3.

Stun locking is a bigger bitch in souls 2 than it is in souls 3. At least in souls 3,you can evade quickly enough and the combat speed is faster.

I meant that stunlocking your enemies is too easy not the other way around.

 

[sullynathan]

None of the bosses in DS3 were as tough as Fume Knight or even O&S. If not for Pontiff and Nameless I'd say it's the easiest of the series as far as bosses go (including Demon's Souls.)
Solo obviously.

Dark Souls 2 had tougher mobs. Stunlocking is too easy in DS3.

Stun locking is a bigger bitch in souls 2 than it is in souls 3. At least in souls 3,you can evade quickly enough and the combat speed is faster.

I meant that stunlocking your enemies is too easy not the other way around.

I'm more concerned by enemies stunlocking me to hell, than the other way around especially when one has poise and the other doesn't.
It just goes to show, that some of Dark Souls 3's problems come from Souls 2. The shitty poise and stunlocking came from Souls 2.

 

[sullynathan]

praetor engage in discourse and stop rating my posts fool

 

[Cowboy Moment]

cvv why don't you explain the specific difference between DS2 and DS3 mechanics that makes the latter not a backstab fest?

Stun locking is a bigger bitch in souls 2 than it is in souls 3. At least in souls 3,you can evade quickly enough and the combat speed is faster.

Bro please, have you even played the game? DS3 has a lot more enemies with long, spammy combos. They do show up in DS2 as well (and much butthurt was had from the vikings in No Man's Wharf and their charge attack), but overall, the spaminess is roughly on the level of previous games. DS2 also has somewhat functional poise, in that if you wear heavy armor and swing around a ultra greatsword, you will poise through a lot of attacks, whereas in DS3 an enemy with a shitty dagger will still stagger you (I'm looking at you, dagger snakemen from Archdragon Peak).

A lot more enemies in DS2 also have functional poise as well, and the damage to stamina ratio on most weapons is less extreme, so the default strategy isn't to spam roll and then mash R1 until the enemy is dead. All in all, there's none of DS3's "spam them before they spam you", which is the crux of my complaint about combat in that game.

 

[cvv]

cvv why don't you explain the specific difference between DS2 and DS3 mechanics that makes the latter not a backstab fest?

Everybody was talking about that on launch, backstabs are not instant in DS3, there's a slight delay, did you not notice? Still not enough, personally I'd revamp the feature completely, but it's something I guess.

 

[praetor]

cvv why don't you explain the specific difference between DS2 and DS3 mechanics that makes the latter not a backstab fest?

Everybody was talking about that on launch, backstabs are not instant in DS3, there's a slight delay, did you not notice? Still not enough, personally I'd revamp the feature completely, but it's something I guess.

dude wtf. in DaS2 the delay for the slap animation during backstabs is at least an order of magnitude longer than DaS3. how the flying fuck is DaS2 a backstab fest and DaS3 isn't, if in the latter they are easier to pull off/harder to evade?! definitely confirmed for never having played DaS2