KickStarter Darkest Dungeon AKA the Celerity Attention Whore Thread

[Celerity]

You laugh, but it's true. I'd have been happier if Derpest burned and died a long time ago, then I could focus on quietly enjoying games that are actuallly good, instead of having myself out there like this (which usually results in hack jobs like random Codexers and Jim Shilling taking shots at me because it's popular). Even if Derpest were exposed and died in the righteous fires of truth right now I've put myself out there so much in the process I wonder if people would ever fuck off and let me just have some goddamned in peace.

 

[Zombra]

Well I sure can't think of a way to stop people from continuing to reply to the asinine posts that you continue to make. Nope. Sure can't.

 

[Celerity]

Really now. So when I didn't recieve any notifications about this thread, and I assumed people finally got bored of this boring walking simulator and their more boring trolling and went back on Skyrim or whatever, but the notifications were actually broken and people kept going full retard without me for about a week that was somehow my fault?

 

[Zombra]

Yes.

 

[veevoir]

This thread.

 

[Invictus]

So stop posting your retarded shit Celerity, nobody understands your issues or gives two tugs of a dead dog's cock abiut what you want to rant about anymore
The game its what it is, it is not perfect bit it is fun and most people like it for what it is, so go and have something else to obsess about ffs
In the end, when most of us go will get more tired of your shit and start sending you to the darkest dungeon of all... The ignore setting
Hell despite all your retardness you will even gain the notoriety you so desperetly crave and become a fucking footnote and maybe someday somebody will come with a snappy comeback over a playing Fallout 5 and liking it and someone will say "Hey play for 1337 and then decide" with a shiteating troll grin... you will join Codexian lore and phrases like "Sup Drog" "C&C" and "Popamole"

You are a joke and the only thing you inspire anymore is pity

 

[Stainless Veteran]

You laugh, but it's true. I'd have been happier if Derpest burned and died a long time ago, then I could focus on quietly enjoying games that are actuallly good, instead of having myself out there like this (which usually results in hack jobs like random Codexers and Jim Shilling taking shots at me because it's popular). Even if Derpest were exposed and died in the righteous fires of truth right now I've put myself out there so much in the process I wonder if people would ever fuck off and let me just have some goddamned in peace.

Mate, I know that all modders are crazy by default, but have you considered actually taking some neuroleptics? Because this shit goes beyond obsessive-compulsive disorder, and right into paranoid schizophrenia.

Paranoid schizophrenia is a subtype of schizophrenia in which the patient has delusions (false beliefs) that a person or some individuals are plotting against them or members of their family. Paranoid schizophrenia is the most common schizophrenia type.

The majority of people with paranoid schizophrenia, as with most schizophrenia subtypes may also have auditory hallucinations - they hear things that are not real. They may also have delusions of personal grandeur - a false belief that they are much greater and more powerful and influential than they really are.

An individual with paranoid schizophrenia may spend a disproportionate amount of time thinking up ways of protecting themselves from their persecutors.

Typically, a person with paranoid schizophrenia has fewer problems with memory, dulled emotions and concentration compared to those with other subtypes; which allows them to think and function more successfully. Even so, paranoid schizophrenia is a chronic (long-term, lifelong) condition which may eventually lead to complications, including suicidal thoughts and behavior.

With proper treatment and support, patients have a very good chance of leading happy and productive lives.

A symptom is something the patient senses and describes, while a sign is something other people, such as the doctor notice. For example, drowsiness may be a symptom while dilated pupils may be a sign.

The patient will have relatively stable, frequently paranoid delusions, which are usually accompanied by auditory hallucinations (hearing things that are not there) and perceptual disturbances.

Some schizophrenia symptoms are not prominent, such as disturbances of volition, affect, speech and catatonia.

* Auditory hallucinations - hearing voices that are not there (they don't exist).

* Visual hallucinations are possible, but rare.

* Delusions - beliefs that are not real; false personal beliefs that are not subject to reason or contradictory evidence. The patient may firmly believe something, even though there is incontrovertible evidence that it is false. En example may be a belief that a neighbor is plotting to kill or poison the patient.

* Anxiety - a patient with paranoid schizophrenia will usually suffer from periods of high anxiety.

* Anger - this emotional state may range from mild irritation, which most healthy individuals sometimes have, to fury and rage. Anger may raise heart rate, blood pressure and levels of adrenaline and noradrenaline.

* Detachment - the patient may sometimes be physically or emotionally; reserved and remote (aloofness).

* Aggression and violence - aggression may reach levels in which violent outbursts occur.
* Quarrels

* Condescension - sometimes the patient may seem patronizing; perhaps they may feel they know stuff other people don't and subsequently assume such a manner.

* Suicidal thoughts and behavior - these may be noticeable by people around the individual, with statements such as "I wish I were dead", I am going to kill myself", or "I wish I had never been born". The patient may go further and obtain the means to kill himself/herself, such as getting a weapon or accumulating pills. Other warning signs may be:

* Becoming socially withdrawn (1337 hour playtime often does it)

* Mood swings - however, mood disorders and problems with thinking are less common in this type of schizophrenia

* Being obsessed with death, dying or violence

* Feeling trapped or desperate

* Increased consumption of drugs (including illegal ones) and alcohol

* Changing eating or sleeping patterns

* Starting to get their affairs in order and giving away belongings

* Saying goodbye to people in a specific way (as if they are never going to see them again).

While some patients may have clear suicidal behaviors and thoughts (obvious to others), others may be more secretive. The warning signs might be subtle, and sometimes not noticeable at all.

Patients with paranoid schizophrenia are more likely to be affected by positive symptoms, such as delusions and auditory hallucinations, and less by problems with mood, cognition (thinking, concentration, attention), compared to other types of schizophrenia.

I mean, if you look at DSM V:

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition (DSM-5):

Schizophrenia 295.90 (F20.9)

A. Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated). At least one of these must be (1), (2), or (3):

1. Delusions.
2. Hallucinations.
3. Disorganized speech (eg, frequent derailment or incoherence)
4. Grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior.
5. Negative symptoms (ie, diminished emotional expression or avolition).

B. For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, level of functioning in one or more major areas, such as work, interpersonal relationships, or self-care, is markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset (or when the onset is in childhood or adolescence, there is failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational functioning).

C. Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms (or less, if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A (ie, active phase symptoms) and may include periods of prodomal or residual symptoms. During these prodromal or residual periods, the signs of the disturbances may be manifested by only negative symptoms or by two or more symptoms listed in Criterion A present in an attenuated form (eg, odd beliefs, unusual perceptual experiences).

D. Schizoaffective disorder and depressive or bipolar disorder with psychotic features have been ruled out because either 1) no major depressive or manic episodes have occurred concurrently with the active-phase symptoms, or 2) if mood episodes have occurred during active-phase symptoms, they have been present for a minority of the total duration of the active and residual periods of the illness.

E. The disturbance is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (eg, a drug of abuse, a medication) or another medical condition.

F. If there is a history of autism spectrum disorder or a communication disorder of childhood onset, the additional diagnosis of schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations, in addition to the other required symptoms of schizophrenia, are also present for at least 1 month (or less if successfully treated).

A to C criteria — check. Not sure about D to F, but even if we take into an account first three criteria, it's more than enough to go and see a psychiatrist.

I'm serious here, not trolling, not even trying to invalidate your opinion about DD — you may very well be right about it in part, I haven't played it for a year, so I can't comment. But your obsession and other symptoms are really unhealthy, and are pointing to mental disorder. Get help. If you're kwan though, I don't really know if you can afford psych help, so try at least reading about paranoid schizophrenia and maybe self-medicate, though it's far from ideal answer, but right now you're heading straight to madness. All because some shitty little game.

 

[Celerity]

So yeah, that's exactly what I mean. As much as people bitch and whine and carry on about how I should move on, what invariably happens is I see people here still whining and flailing after a day, or several days, or a week, such that the people that think they're trolling me by posting x person fired some shots at me or whatever are actually acting as my primary source of information about Derpest Dungeon as I am not following it right now and even the various other people who saw the various flaws with it and keep me informed are not remaining as alert and wide eyed about new developments. Take the Jim still being a little bitch thing for example. I saw he was taking some shots at me, called him on it, people responded being fuckwits, we go back and forth for a while, eventually they fuck off. I figure that's the end of it. Then people start helpfully informing me he started again. Or this, where notifications broke until I checked, looked for non idiot threads and saw this was still going instead. Ultimately, you're far more obsessed with me than I am with even exposing Derpest's corruption, and further you have zero logical reason behind it so you cannot even try using the "crazy" card against me.

Now if I'm wrong and you're right you'll do exactly as you say. Quit discussing me, quit discussing Derpest in a trolling/baiting context. Ignore me if you're a pussy ass bitch. If everyone does that I'll tell you exactly what will happen. This thread will die fast, as there's no actual game here. And that's why you won't do this, and will continue carrying on about obsession in an obsessive way. You know I'm done, you don't want it ending.

 

[Jasede]

You're such a dumb, easily triggered and trolled nigger, shit.
If even I am laughing at you you really fucked up in life, son.

We're keeping this going because your autism x 1000 posts are a delight to skim read.

 

[Celerity]

Who the fuck are you again? Oh, some random racist fuckwit. Got it. Thanks for illustrating you cannot ever contribute anything of value concisely!

 

[Stainless Veteran]

Who the fuck are you again? Oh, some random racist fuckwit. Got it. Thanks for illustrating you cannot ever contribute anything of value concisely!

Celerity, I know that people with disorders, especially in acute state always think about themselves as completely normal and that it's the others who are either crazy and/or out to get them. While what our lovable furry Jasede said it's true, and many ITT derive much amusement from your antics, pocking you with small sticks and so forth, I was completely serious. Go see a shrink. Get help. Apply your dedication to something worthwhile, and I don't mean modding Xulima, I mean something, anything other than modding and shitposting, at least for a while. You have effectively given that game all your thoughts and a year of your life. Do you really want to continue like this? Shit, mate, I'm serious, get help.

 

[dagrims]

Ultimately, you're far more obsessed with me than I am with even exposing Derpest's corruption, and further you have zero logical reason behind it so you cannot even try using the "crazy" card against me.

Now if I'm wrong and you're right you'll do exactly as you say. Quit discussing me, quit discussing Derpest in a trolling/baiting context. Ignore me if you're a pussy ass bitch. If everyone does that I'll tell you exactly what will happen. This thread will die fast, as there's no actual game here. And that's why you won't do this, and will continue carrying on about obsession in an obsessive way. You know I'm done, you don't want it ending.

With the exception of the first post on page 87, and one small mention on page 88, there's no reference to you on the prior two pages. Posters were discussing the game itself - clearly the thread wasn't dying. Then this morning you posted in order to remind everyone how you have been right about this game, which once again derailed the thread. People weren't discussing you until you brought yourself back into the discussion.

I'm a complete outsider to this game and this discussion until now. As a lurker in this thread, this is the pattern I see: people react to your posts for a while, then things die out nearly completely and posters get back to discussing the game itself, then you post something (often self-congratulatory or insulting forum members) and the cycle begins anew. It's hard to see the obsession being on the Codex's part.

 

[rashiakas]

So how do I make some money in this gaem? Unlocking skills and curing stress is so expensive I can't afford to keep my experienced guys. Halp?

 

[Zetor]

So how do I make some money in this gaem? Unlocking skills and curing stress is so expensive I can't afford to keep my experienced guys. Halp?

Level up the stagecoach to get 4 heroes per week, and create level 0 burner teams using the heroes with crappy quirks (i.e. most of them).

Send them on short scouting missions with zero torches, 12 food and whatever items are needed to get loot from curios. Should get 6k+ profit per run, probably more (and they should be able to finish the run without wiping, too). Discard the broken toys afterwards, repeat with the next set of bright-eyed newbies as needed.

 

[ClaviculaZ]

Celerity, you're undoubtedly right in a lot of regards, but there aren't really a lot of games which don't suffer from similar issues. So I'd like to know what - in your opinion - are the actual gems of gaming?

 

[AMG]

So how do I make some money in this gaem? Unlocking skills and curing stress is so expensive I can't afford to keep my experienced guys. Halp?

Grinding.
There are some "exploits" like grabbing 4 rookies, taking some shit from dungeon then retreat and disband, but I am not sure that's even worth the effort. If you want to beat the game you will have to level up a lot of dudes anyway, so if your "main team" can't progress, you just level up new ones in the meantime. Better to just play a normal dungeon.

Manage your inventory so you always exit dungeon with most loot and not spare torches/food. Also always buy at least one key and always light up torch to max before entering new rooms. If you scout secret room thats 7500 geld for free.
Alternatively, take crusader/jester/houndmaster and cure stress for your guys at the end of every fight, similarly to healing. That way you won't have to pay for treatments.

 

[Zombra]

So how do I make some money in this gaem? Unlocking skills and curing stress is so expensive I can't afford to keep my experienced guys. Halp?

Let your experienced guys snooze in the street once in a while (you don't have to send them to the tavern, just let them sit around). Take your weaklings on milk runs to build up a little cash. Keep a large roster and just use your lowest stress guys at any given time.

 

[Zombra]

You have effectively given that game all your thoughts and a year of your life. Do you really want to continue like this?

You know, you're right dude. It's pretty cruel to keep baiting the guy like this, he's suffered enough. Think I better put him back on ignore for a while and try to get back to the game.

 

[Invictus]

For money I tried to always have several crews at various levels; newbies have much cheaper upgrades to start with and since you are going to need several teams anyway I use low levels runs to get some money and wxperience for those newbies
Teaming them up with a healer/stress healer and one or two experienced chars makes them mostly safe runs and you can make 4 5 runs befor the go over the level 2 threshold with very cheap upgrades... It is slow going but I rather build up my squad so when my jester gets killed on some lucky crit I have several replacements available whoch dont require many upgrades
The whole disposable squad is an exploit to me, they should patch that by having some sort of reknown matter to balance that out somewhat

 

[Suicidal]

Not really watching people derp out here, but I am happy that people I never met before now reached the same conclusions as me about the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Buwei6ZWqU

While this guy has a lot of good points, claiming that turn based combat is boring and then naming Final Fantasy as an example of good turn based combat is full on

Also Celerity, I like you (even if you can be very obnoxious at times) and agree with you on a lot of things regarding DD, but at the end of the day, people will still be playing it, fans will still be praising it for inane reasons (I saw people praising the fact that the final boss is too easy because it lures you into a false sense of security thinking you can actually die but you can't or some stupid shit like that ) and Red Hook will be laughing all the way to the bank. Try as you might, one man is not enough to make the world turn in the opposite direction. Hell, I play Darkest Dungeon myself - it may be shallow and full of unrealized potential, but it's still a fun coffee break game to play for 30 minutes a day without giving it too much thought. So I really hope you put this crusade behind you and turn your attention to more worthwhile things - like perfecting your Xulima mod. Now Xulima is a game that you can actually play for more than 30 minutes a day and one much more worthy of a mad scientist modder.

 

[rashiakas]

Thanks for the tips. I think I drop this game then, because suicide runs kinda kills the fun for me. And it looks like it is a real grind to get somewhere.

 

[Zombra]

Thanks for the tips. I think I drop this game then, because suicide runs kinda kills the fun for me. And it looks like it is a real grind to get somewhere.

What? Don't "suicide run", I agree that's dumb. Just take low level guys to low level dungeons and do your best, that's it.

Grind? Well ... yes. That's a legit reason to quit.

 

[sser]

Not really watching people derp out here, but I am happy that people I never met before now reached the same conclusions as me about the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Buwei6ZWqU

While this guy has a lot of good points, claiming that turn based combat is boring and then naming Final Fantasy as an example of good turn based combat is full on

Also Celerity, I like you (even if you can be very obnoxious at times) and agree with you on a lot of things regarding DD, but at the end of the day, people will still be playing it, fans will still be praising it for inane reasons (I saw people praising the fact that the final boss is too easy because it lures you into a false sense of security thinking you can actually die but you can't or some stupid shit like that ) and Red Hook will be laughing all the way to the bank. Try as you might, one man is not enough to make the world turn in the opposite direction. Hell, I play Darkest Dungeon myself - it may be shallow and full of unrealized potential, but it's still a fun coffee break game to play for 30 minutes a day without giving it too much thought. So I really hope you put this crusade behind you and turn your attention to more worthwhile things - like perfecting your Xulima mod. Now Xulima is a game that you can actually play for more than 30 minutes a day and one much more worthy of a mad scientist modder.

Yeah that's how I see it. There's a lot of issues with the game, but I find myself playing it here and there between work or when I'm out hipstering it up at Starbucks.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

This is one of the most far-fetched, and yet AWESOME, pop culture references I've seen in years.

Also, congrats on the thread Codexers. We don't get quality entertainment like this every day.

 

[Celerity]

dagrims Ah yes, because "Here's Jim Sterling randomly restarting this shit, so let's restart the shit here by linking it with an exact time." is about the game, right? Seriously, my notifications were broken for a week, I thought the thread was dead, then I check and people are still going on.

ClaviculaZ There's actually plenty of games that don't. Yes, every game has balance problems, every game is not made by perfect developers. I don't expect perfection, just something better than complete junk. I've never seen any other game in such a poor balance state, and its competitors include Diablo 3 (let's hand out 500-1,500% bonuses on specific skills on specific items like candy... don't have those items? Have fun scratching their balls!), and Dungeons and Dragons (earlier editions devote several page sections specifically for discussing ways of deliberately and actively screwing the party, later ones require you memorize literally thousands of pages of rules just so you can make a character contribute without spellcasting ability). I've never seen such a vile community, even the usual suspects like MOBAs are actually generally respectable once you get past about Silver League. I've never seen such incompetent devs and there's plenty of competition there, some are even collaborating (Double Fine streamed Derpest earlier, LMFAO!)

Suicidal See, this is where the difference between objectivity and subjectivity comes in. I obviously greatly enjoy turn based combat, the vast majority of the games I've tried at any stage of my life have been turn based RPGs, with a mix of ATB or action or real time based RPGs as well as a little turn based and active strategy games. He doesn't. That's ok. He need not like what I like, and further all the things he said except for the part about class variety were correct, and still true for fans of turn based combat. Now as for the Rekt Hook crusade, as I've mentioned many times it's actually the shills and many attackers that keep this going, I'd have gotten bored/apathic and lost interest months ago if not for the persistent antagonism keeping the war fires going. This thread in particular has filled my heart with determination, because see I've already fact checked myself. I know I'm right, I spent a good 6 months ruling out any possibility, however distant that I could be wrong. So when completely sure of my convictions, mindless opposition, such as the various shitposts here just remind me of what I'm fighting for and that the war must continue. Seriously, when the fuck was my first post about it here, December? If it were just a yeah, game is shitty and one dimensional, but what'd you expect it would have long since died out here and potentially everywhere. Instead it was like that for a few posts, then someone shitposted and like mimic monkeys everyone piled on.

As for the whole Xulima modding thing, no one actually cares about that. Not a single person here has tried it or commented at all, even those I specifically and personally invited for that purpose. That tells me straight out people here only want Derpest Drama, and have no interest in focusing on the productive contributions I could provide because actions speak louder than words, you see. Hell, whatever mod or admin anon trolled me with these tags and the Watchwitzing hasn't even reversed that yet. Reason for the reasonable, show me this place isn't just a haven for trolling and shitposting and I'll do something besides troll and shitpost.