Saturday, yes.
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Decline 8: Lizzurd vs Grimwulf. HOW QUICKLY THE TIDE TURNS
- Thread starter Grimwulf
- Start date
Saturday, yes.
Ok, finished this map. Will update OP with links in a bit.
Link to full map (.tga image file + custom script - download this if you don't have Grigionia): https://d.maxfile.ro/cddwpskhix.rar
Link to script-only (.map file - download this if you have Grigionia map installed already): https://d.maxfile.ro/uajwdhsrfb.rar
Simply download the proper .rar archive and extract it in maps folder. The map will appear in your list as "Grigionia Decline 8 Edition"
Features:
Lizzurd, let's decide what to do with the middle volcano then. When I suggested the placements of 4th starting points (provinces 28 and 100; Bandar Log and Shinuyama), I was suggesting it with consideration of strong PD of middle volcano province (62). In other words, I was counting on lvl3 Throne spamming there. If we'll have lvl1 Throne, this pbem might develop in a very retarded way (even more so than it already is). Here is my suggestions:
1. We throw away all lvl1 Thrones. Don't want to do it, though.
2. I set up custom defenders for this province. It means that even if this province has lvl1 Throne spammed, it will still be heavily protected. We can discuss the exact type and quantity of units by email. I'm gud with anything that's impossible to kill during first year and very hard to do so during second year. Basically, any lvl3 Throne defence. It's easy to script, will take me half an hour tops.
If you have another solution - speak it up, I'm all ears.
Since there is no way of doing otherwise, we leave Throne distribution to random. It's unlikely, but possible that both lvl3 Thrones will spam in native turf a team. If they do, the other team won't be able to win without conquering these deep-placed provinces (10, 21, 110, 120). Once again, we have two options:
1. Leave it for random and hope for the best;
2. Change victory conditions (10 victory points to win instead of 12 that we currently have). That way it will be possible to win without claiming any of lvl3 Thrones.
I'm fine with both options - take your pick.
Finally, feel free to rename any provinces to the north of central volcano (62). Just don't rename those to the south - my team has IT'S OWN ATMOSPHERE there. In case you want to rename yours, I ask you politely to do it in a specific way:
That's it. Check the script carefully now, so you won't complain later.
Link to full map (.tga image file + custom script - download this if you don't have Grigionia): https://d.maxfile.ro/cddwpskhix.rar
Link to script-only (.map file - download this if you have Grigionia map installed already): https://d.maxfile.ro/uajwdhsrfb.rar
Simply download the proper .rar archive and extract it in maps folder. The map will appear in your list as "Grigionia Decline 8 Edition"
Features:
- Custom Starts for our nations as we decided earlier;
- Custom Throne placement for 8 Thrones as we discussed;
- Custom names for all provinces, because I can;
- No changes whatsoever of terrain types or magic site provinces - I left it all vanilla. We play the map as it was designed by original author, even if it's not perfectly symmetric in a few places.
Lizzurd, let's decide what to do with the middle volcano then. When I suggested the placements of 4th starting points (provinces 28 and 100; Bandar Log and Shinuyama), I was suggesting it with consideration of strong PD of middle volcano province (62). In other words, I was counting on lvl3 Throne spamming there. If we'll have lvl1 Throne, this pbem might develop in a very retarded way (even more so than it already is). Here is my suggestions:
1. We throw away all lvl1 Thrones. Don't want to do it, though.
2. I set up custom defenders for this province. It means that even if this province has lvl1 Throne spammed, it will still be heavily protected. We can discuss the exact type and quantity of units by email. I'm gud with anything that's impossible to kill during first year and very hard to do so during second year. Basically, any lvl3 Throne defence. It's easy to script, will take me half an hour tops.
If you have another solution - speak it up, I'm all ears.
Since there is no way of doing otherwise, we leave Throne distribution to random. It's unlikely, but possible that both lvl3 Thrones will spam in native turf a team. If they do, the other team won't be able to win without conquering these deep-placed provinces (10, 21, 110, 120). Once again, we have two options:
1. Leave it for random and hope for the best;
2. Change victory conditions (10 victory points to win instead of 12 that we currently have). That way it will be possible to win without claiming any of lvl3 Thrones.
I'm fine with both options - take your pick.
Finally, feel free to rename any provinces to the north of central volcano (62). Just don't rename those to the south - my team has IT'S OWN ATMOSPHERE there. In case you want to rename yours, I ask you politely to do it in a specific way:
1. Open .map file.
2. See that #specstart column in the end? Cut-and-paste it in a separate file.
3. Save .map file.
4. Open map editor and make your renamings.
5. Save changes.
6. Open map. file.
7. Copy the #specstart column back.
Why do you need to do those weird cuts and pastes? Because when the map editor saves changes (be it renaming or other shit), it replaces the scripts however the fuck he wants. Those #specstarts will be scattered across the lines, and it will be hard and inconvinient to find them later with ctr+F. Just leave the script the way it is now, so that we or other players can quickly replace our nations with other nations and play other pbems with these settings.
Have some manners.
2. See that #specstart column in the end? Cut-and-paste it in a separate file.
3. Save .map file.
4. Open map editor and make your renamings.
5. Save changes.
6. Open map. file.
7. Copy the #specstart column back.
Why do you need to do those weird cuts and pastes? Because when the map editor saves changes (be it renaming or other shit), it replaces the scripts however the fuck he wants. Those #specstarts will be scattered across the lines, and it will be hard and inconvinient to find them later with ctr+F. Just leave the script the way it is now, so that we or other players can quickly replace our nations with other nations and play other pbems with these settings.
Have some manners.
That's it. Check the script carefully now, so you won't complain later.
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Lizzurd
Cipher
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Autism is strong in this one.
I checked this map, its all connections and provinces. I approve it.
My obsession caused this great foulness, and it is shameful that I must rely upon you to set it right.
Andnjord
Arcane
How the hell did I miss this?
Make sure you keep the peanut gallery updated when this clusterfuck starts.Caelum should name his Disciple Amrav. Surely bossing around his once greater enemy should exorcise Grimwulf's fear of him.
Rooting for Grimwulf because he's been such a bro in the Small Disciple Game.
Got bored and left
Guest
I approve of this thread! And I root for ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION, the most pyrrhic of victories for one of the sides. Have fun fucking the world up, bros.
Andnjord
Arcane
Got bored and left
Guest
I have cosulted
...
Goddamn Russians.
GRIMWOLF STRONK
You'll do anything for being fisted, eh?
Lizzurd
Cipher
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Nope, i just cannot ignore the Khalyava.
Want to sub in for raw in disciple game? Its early so he probably didnt fuck it up yet and its after expansion so the boring part is over. MA Ctis.
Jester
Arbiter
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I am unfortunetelly to noob for this, so i would fuck it up instead and don't have actual game copy.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Decline8
After uploading your avatars, post confirmation in this thread pls, so that I know it was you. I know that famous Lizzurd's trick.
- Uploaded Pretender.
- Game started.
- Spammed in shit location.
- "GUYZ, SOMEBODY ELSE UPLOADED PRETENDER - IT WASN'T ME, PLS RESTART"
After uploading your avatars, post confirmation in this thread pls, so that I know it was you. I know that famous Lizzurd's trick.
- Uploaded Pretender.
- Game started.
- Spammed in shit location.
- "GUYZ, SOMEBODY ELSE UPLOADED PRETENDER - IT WASN'T ME, PLS RESTART"
inb4: we have custom starts, Grimbutt
hoverdog
dog that is hovering, Wastelands Interactive
we have custom starts, Grimbutt
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