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Turn_BASED

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Does anyone remember The Dark mod for Diablo 1? Man that shit was hard and fun. I found myself going back to it after beating Diablo 2.

 

bloodlover

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The other thing that I could point out is that D2's campaign is actually fun and memorable where as D3's is a basically a boring roadblock to reaching endgame.

This is also a very common complaint when players talk about PoE. Endgame is fun as hell but getting there feels like a chore for most people.

Grim Dawn somehow managed to make a very fun campaign.

So with the idea that PoE and D3's campaigns are shit and GD and D2's are not, what would make a better/memorable/not want to fall sleep on my desk from boredom leveling experience? The only things that come to mind are gameplay and items , where it's fun even at low levels in GD/D2 but god awful untill you get set items, crafted gear, good rolls, whatever else in PoE and D3.
 

ArchAngel

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The other thing that I could point out is that D2's campaign is actually fun and memorable where as D3's is a basically a boring roadblock to reaching endgame.

This is also a very common complaint when players talk about PoE. Endgame is fun as hell but getting there feels like a chore for most people.

Grim Dawn somehow managed to make a very fun campaign.

So with the idea that PoE and D3's campaigns are shit and GD and D2's are not, what would make a better/memorable/not want to fall sleep on my desk from boredom leveling experience? The only things that come to mind are gameplay and items , where it's fun even at low levels in GD/D2 but god awful untill you get set items, crafted gear, good rolls, whatever else in PoE and D3.
That is not because PoE campaign is bad but because all good stuff is put into endgame. in PoE your builds become functional at lvl 80+ with a couple of items that you need to farm a bit of money to buy.
In D2 your build was more or less functional by the time you finished Nightmare difficulty. Also campaign was actually challenging on Hell difficulty.
 

ind33d

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Should have made Hardcore mode the default and turned the series into a roguelike, but games journalists's herpes would flare up
 

covr

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So I've checked some random D3 video on yt taken from Xbox series X and D3 looks better: less floating numbers, names, warnings, etc.
 
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Suicidal

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Anyone here actually expected it NOT to look like a cheap mobile game? It's modern day Blizzard, after all.
 

Yosharian

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Almost 3k comments under the video, almost no positive ones. 'Refund' seems to be the most common word. Good!
I hopped on Twitch last night to see if I could find anyone talking about it

Found one dude, commented that it looked like Diablo Immortal, lots of other commentors were saying the same thing

His response was something like 'great, then it'll be familiar to me'

:despair:
 

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