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Reinhardt

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firing hundreds of people making their lives miserable
and in this case nothing of value was lost. oh noes, poor community managers had to find actual job instead of relaxing in daily crying room while sipping stolen breast milk.
 

Sykar

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firing hundreds of people making their lives miserable
and in this case nothing of value was lost. oh noes, poor community managers had to find actual job instead of relaxing in daily crying room while sipping stolen breast milk.
Yes it is better to give it to the guy getting his dick sucked all day long while doing nothing of any value whatsoever. Brilliant argument! And I am sure all those hundreds of firings were managers, no way would KoDICK fire programmers, artists, etc.
 

ArchAngel

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So yesterday new Beta weekend was announced in mid May.

Could be a marketing move. Perhaps hype is dying after lukewarm reception of beta and Blizzard is planning to showcase new gimmicks to maintain interest.
They are calling it server slam beta.
I think they took seriously people making fun of all the players that are willing to play 90+$ just to play 4 days early and run into/test server issues so maybe they want to actually have smooth service at release.

Also this beta is supposed to have all the balance changes made based on feedback of first two beta tests.
AND it is no longer going to have bonus XP and loot drops but it will work like release game will.
 

bloodlover

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Time to test the "improved" barbarian and druid :cool:.

It will be interesting to see how the game is now that legendary items don't drop all over the place, though I assume getting to level 20 will still be a cakewalk.
 

pickmeister

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Source?

Once activision and blizz merged, Kotick became CEO of both companies (Blizzard knew Kotick had a bad reputation with gamers, so it was done quietly, and they spun it to the public as despite the merger activisition and blizzard would remain two separate entities, but Kotick was the top guy both activision execs and blizz execs were reporting to). Once Kotick/activision got involved all of the crap business practices in Activision games started rearing their ugly head in every Blizzard game/decision.

And it got worse and worse and worse and here we are today. I don't know any Blizzard fans that haven't been madly disappointed by one business move or another over that time. ANd now nobody trusts the brand. I don't think Kotick cares, he made out like a bandit with a short-term/immediate-profit business strategy before selling to Microsoft.
Not sure about that. This is anecdotal but I remember many people being concerned when the ownership change from Vivendi to Activision was announced. And Vivendi wasn't anything to write home about either but it wasn't this level of shitshow.

And since you mentioned good ol' Bobby, here's a little reminder from Epstein's address book
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I wonder what his favorite dish by Chef Jeffrey was.
 

mediocrepoet

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Source?

Once activision and blizz merged, Kotick became CEO of both companies (Blizzard knew Kotick had a bad reputation with gamers, so it was done quietly, and they spun it to the public as despite the merger activisition and blizzard would remain two separate entities, but Kotick was the top guy both activision execs and blizz execs were reporting to). Once Kotick/activision got involved all of the crap business practices in Activision games started rearing their ugly head in every Blizzard game/decision.

And it got worse and worse and worse and here we are today. I don't know any Blizzard fans that haven't been madly disappointed by one business move or another over that time. ANd now nobody trusts the brand. I don't think Kotick cares, he made out like a bandit with a short-term/immediate-profit business strategy before selling to Microsoft.
Not sure about that. This is anecdotal but I remember many people being concerned when the ownership change from Vivendi to Activision was announced. And Vivendi wasn't anything to write home about either but it wasn't this level of shitshow.

And since you mentioned good ol' Bobby, here's a little reminder from Epstein's address book
F5JHLWY.png


I wonder what his favorite dish by Chef Jeffrey was.

I don't see what you're getting at about Mr. Kotick.

That clearly says "Boby Kotic". Not sure who that is. Sounds like a scumbag. :smug:
 

Goldschmidt

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PoE players can fuck right off. Diablo 4 is NOT for you, and it never will be, good riddance.

Basement dweller excel-spreadsheet simulator loving fucks can jerk off to their min-max bullshit for hours on end and let the rest of us enjoy ourselves.

That way you also filter away the worst types of autists and ADHD/asperger from even playing diablo 4 - letting the rest of us normies enjoy our game in peace.
True. Diablo 4 is for 6 year olds, learning addition and subtraction for first time!

Typical Diablo 4 player:

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Addition and subtraction can become too much for children. What to add, what to subtract? Very confusing ....
 
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Daedalos

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Why are you posting D2Lama?

Guy is a HUGE D2 andy, and tryhard for D2. ANything that isn't D2 he hates, no matter how great it may be.

ITS NOT D2, BAD!

D3 wasn't all bad, D4 is what D3 should have been. fun nice game
 

Artyoan

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Llama would be more effective in critique if he made a couple hour long video explaining why D2 itemization and progression is so good and why a continuation of D3 into D4 is the wrong path. Thats the real core of his complaints, aside from the UI and map. I don't think he would care much about boring dungeons if the itemization is rock solid. He's been playing this game for his entire life, those dungeons and runs are long since boring if not for the drops. Its all about how each kill is a pull on a slot machine from start to finish.

D2 allows for potential end game drops to be ultra rare but still possible to drop even in early levels. So each kill, each chest opened, all have the potential to be lottery winners. Upgrades are 'stair-stepping' progression so the player can feel the increase, as opposed to gradual and constant upgrades being offset by enemy scaling. Smart loot is awful if you play multiple characters, as those same ultra rare drops can become new avenues of play with a new class that utilizes the item. Multipliers on multipliers is bad design. Keep the numbers contained and sensible. It all worked so well and then they went with frequent but ineffectual level-based gear replacement.

Still not sure why so many games took to quantity over quality in terms of loot/upgrades. D:OS2 still causes me ass pain about it.
 
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Not really, lots of great studios existed before and now (Black Isle Studios, very early Bioware, Piranha Bytes, Origin, Looking Glass Studios, Ion Storm, etc). But Blizzard always made really shallow games with a ton of polish:

- Diablo - People praise this game like it's the second coming, but the reality is, Diablo was inspired by the much, much, much deeper NetHack, and was originally supposed to be a turn-based game, before it eventually turned into a click-fest. If you want to see what a deep, intelligent version of Diablo looks like, buy Vulture on Steam for $3, and spend the next 20 years playing it without looking up online hints.

- Starcraft/Warcraft - very simplistic RTS's, where all the complexity comes from human competition, but I mean you can play basketball outside too, this is not what great games are about.

- World of Warcraft - was fun in the early days, but really, they took everything interesting and multiplayer about MMOs and over time turned it into a single-player lobby full of mini-games.
 

CoronerZg

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- Starcraft/Warcraft - very simplistic RTS's, where all the complexity comes from human competition, but I mean you can play basketball outside too, this is not what great games are about
Porky, sometimes you say dumb shit, but most of the time you make some sense to me. But this right here is the dumbest shit I've read in months. And I don't mean just months, I mean months on Codex, so think about that for a second.
 
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Still true though. Let me elaborate on what I mean by this.

The real potential of video games lies in the in-depth virtual worlds they allow developers to create. There is nothing else like it, books or movies can't do the same. But something like Starcraft/Warcraft is nothing like that. They create a simplistic as all fuck gameworld where all you do is build a few simple structures, churn out some units that follow a simple rock-scissors-paper model, and try to outclick/outplan the other guy. All the complexity comes from the human competition aspect of it, but if that's what gets your goat, you can do the same shit using chess, or checkers, or basketball or soccer. These types of games tap into nothing special about video games.
 

d1r

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I think Porky is mad that he never was able to harvest minerals in a Starcraft MMORPG as a drone.
 

ArchAngel

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I think Porky is mad that he never was able to harvest minerals in a Starcraft MMORPG as a drone.
Nah, it sound more like he tried Sc1, lost his first game to a SCV rush and then ragequit and has been spending 10000s of $ for shrinks ever since
 

Daedalos

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D3 wasn't all bad, D4 is what D3 should have been. fun nice game

D3 actually had some fun, but the D4 Beta bored me endlessly.
ur like the first person I've seen saying D3 was actually better than D4 lol.

D4 is an improvement in every way over D3.

Not sure how you could find D4 beta boring, if u enjoyed D3 lol.

At this moment, D4 blows every ARPG out of the water, even POE, and don't get me started on the shitty fake complexity and autistic builds and pixel clutter all over the screen.

June is soon here. Dis gon b gud
 

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