Diablo IV

[ArchAngel]

I didn't see any of that quality.
It is incredible that after 20 years major aRPG cannot have enemies in range of D2?
The brought back fallen into D4 but where are those groups of Shamans that res from 2 screen away? I have only seen them spawn

Shamans are really pain in ass compared to D2. Then not only resurrect normal fallen but also special fallen as well and they do it constantly aside from casting actually some proper magic. They are bigger threat than in D2.

I didn't see this pain you are talking about. They are always in same room and you murder them first. In D2 they can be 2 screens away in any direction, including inside houses.
Unless you are playing in Tier 3 and they got some new tricks there

 

[ArchAngel]

Ok after watching story parts to the end this is total shit. Not as shit as D3 but this is not worth playing for the story. Especially not paying AAA price for this.
Even gameplay and boss battles were mostly shit.
If someone that never played any aRPG asked me to play PoE or D4 just for main story and parts I would always say PoE.

 

[Jaedar]

- HC is a very dicey proposition atm -> on crash or dc your character stays up to 40 seconds in the game
- sometimes you bug out and can't use any abilities, so group play is necessary for survival during these moments

lul
Hard to imagine someone would make worse HC than poe, yet blizz succeeds.

- game is much better for casuals than PoE

Is this casual in the sense of "hey reddit, I only have 500 hours in PoE, but I think there is a problem with trading" or "reading is teh hard, make more big number on screen!"?

 

[KIss My Ass]

Shamans are really pain in ass compared to D2. They not only resurrect normal fallen but also special fallen as well and they do it constantly aside from casting actually some proper magic. They are bigger threat than in D2. Then if you get shaman elite with summoning it becomes painx2

Yeah you have to target them immediately. Can't fuck around with those guys.

 

[Perkel]

I didn't see this pain you are talking about. They are always in same room and you murder them first. In D2 they can be 2 screens away in any direction, including inside houses.
Unless you are playing in Tier 3 and they got some new tricks there

Dude what are you even talking about. D2 shamans were only resurrecting fallen aka the easiest enemy in game and they could only cast slow fireball. They were no threat to anyone other than 1st quest completion.

 

[KIss My Ass]

This is definitely getting my vote for GOTY here. Game is a blast. Haters can suck it.

 

[ropetight]

Right on time before Diablo 4 release - Diablo 3 mega-documentary by Indigo Gaming.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

How long until this is on gamepass? Any reason why in the betas you couldn't transmog the barbarian's mostly useless extra weapons/statsticks into being invisible same as you could with armor pieces? Your character looks goofy with all that extra dangling junk in an otherwise good looking game.

 

[KIss My Ass]

How long until this is on gamepass?

Eh doesn't Microshit have to aquire Activision Blizzard for that to happen?

 

[ArchAngel]

I didn't see this pain you are talking about. They are always in same room and you murder them first. In D2 they can be 2 screens away in any direction, including inside houses.
Unless you are playing in Tier 3 and they got some new tricks there

Dude what are you even talking about. D2 shamans were only resurrecting fallen aka the easiest enemy in game and they could only cast slow fireball. They were no threat to anyone other than 1st quest completion.

Who cares about normal, real D2 begins on Hell difficulty

 

[Kjaska]

tl;dw:

- game is solid 6/10, if they fix all the shit maybe even a 8/10
- all complaints are minor, but they add up "death by a thousand cuts"
- all the issues have no apparent logical reason to be like this
- no HP numbers on the globe
- HP globe has like 3 different HP indicators all rolled into one which makes it less useful
- no map overlay
- no gem tab in inventory
- some dungeon tilesets have big backtracking issues
- all quests are bad (think all the worst parts of Lost Ark leveling)
- full clear all mobs type mission in dungeons is aids
- can't easily reset the dungeons
- don't get the mount until act4
- cheat death is lame
- lots of fights are terrible for melee
- targetting or name-locking or the hit boxes are not tuned properly so you get stuck a lot as melee
- quest tracking sucks
- on death effects are on steroids (think bearers from PoE but every pack is like that)
- "Waller" mod on mobs gets annoying
- NPCs are spread apart in towns way too much
- a lot of things in the game feel intentionally padded/stretched/slowed down just so you play more
- random barriers in the open world make you dismount and wait for cooldown to go up again
- if you're in a party you can no longer be invited into any other party
- chat randomly opens, making you unable to use any abilities
- monsters don't drop their loot instantly, have to wait for long death animations sometimes

 

[Crispy]

- chat randomly opens, making you unable to use any abilities

 

[mediocrepoet]

- chat randomly opens, making you unable to use any abilities

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[KIss My Ass]

Had a weird bug where I couldn't attack or use any skills. Logging out and back in fixed it.

 

[DeepOcean]

Just a question, can you die on the first 10hs? That would already make it leaps ahead of 99% of ARPGs. I always burn out of tedium by that point. Do you actually need to play good like evading shit, use movement skills or is t like most ARPGs where you can be replaced by a bot once you have a build?

 

[Skinwalker]

Is it shit?

 

[KIss My Ass]

Just a question, can you die on the first 10hs? That would already make it leaps ahead of 99% of ARPGs. I always burn out of tedium by that point. Do you actually need to play good like evading shit, use movement skills or is t like most ARPGs where you can be replaced by a bot once you have a build?

It can be pretty challenging on World Tier II. I've died a few times, typically to elites and bosses. Evasion is a big part of the game.

 

[Perkel]

- lots of fights are terrible for melee

More like all ranged classes are to easy to play. Played with barb until nightmare (tier 3) and it was fair all along. There were some sticky situations but those were mostly me jumping inside of huge pack of mobs without thinking. In D4 i am yet to die from something I don't understand or some weird combo damage spike. Even if I jumped into middle of elite pack it wasn't one shot but mostly combination of CC and few heavy hitting attacks.

Just a question, can you die on the first 10hs? That would already make it leaps ahead of 99% of ARPGs. I always burn out of tedium by that point. Do you actually need to play good like evading shit, use movement skills or is t like most ARPGs where you can be replaced by a bot once you have a build?

Yes. If you play on Veteran with barb. You constantly have to move and control crowd with your attacks and movement. It was hardest campaign since Grim Dawn Veteran mode (though I didn't like veteran in that game)

 

[Yosharian]

Just a question, can you die on the first 10hs? That would already make it leaps ahead of 99% of ARPGs. I always burn out of tedium by that point. Do you actually need to play good like evading shit, use movement skills or is t like most ARPGs where you can be replaced by a bot once you have a build?

If you play Druid then yeah

 

[Saravan]

Amazing. It was enough for Blizzoid to move the atmosphere and color palette back towards the direction of D1/D2 to sucker idiots into paying 90 $ (!) for this D3.5 MTX-hell garbage.

To name just a few things, itemisation is still uninspiring stat sticks where everything scales off weapon with zero weight to different weapon types etc. Simplistic skill tree and consolised UI, I think they even stated that the game is better when played with a console. No trading, all uniques are account bound. Very little variation in dungeons and monsters. Lackluster end-game content that is eerily similar to greater rifts design. And the worst offender of them all, level scaling.

D2 is over 20 years old, with a shit game in between to take lessons from. The standard here should be a massive improvement upon D2, not just 'slightly better' than D3.

 

[Aemar]

Diablo 4 = Diablo 3 + Path of Exile + WoW

This is not the game most people have been waiting for since Diablo 2. Who the fuck needs, for example, 1000 side quests in a Diablo game? Level scaling? Gtfo with this piece of overpriced garbage.

 

[Saravan]

Diablo 4 = Diablo 3 + Path of Exile + WoW

This is not the game most people have been waiting for since Diablo 2. Who the fuck needs, for example, 1000 side quests in a Diablo game? Level scaling? Gtfo with this piece of overpriced garbage.

I realize that at this point the larger playerbase has fundamentally changed, therefore the game design as well. Still, it is hard to accept.

 

[Aemar]

The main problem lies with the company itself. The first two games were made by professional nerds, while the latest iterations have been created by soyjacks.

 

[Rahdulan]

while the latest iterations have been created by soyjacks.

It would probably be more accurate to say 3 and 4 were made by devs who know nothing beyond WoW expansions. I'm not even sure where to place Starcraft 2 in such a company.

 

[Naraya]

How is the game doing? Knowing modern GAMERS, it sells like chocolate chip hot cakes?