Diablo IV

[ArchAngel]

I did, for about 20+ hours. Tried everyone but Rogue.

You played the beta for 20 hours, ie, a demo, which probably wasn't even 5% of the game.

It was pretty much the whole game due to how level scaling works and how all dungeons are the same. We even had access to all the skills in first beta.
Only thing lacking was access to paragon where it is only passive bonuses anyways.

 

[KIss My Ass]

I did, for about 20+ hours. Tried everyone but Rogue.

You played the beta for 20 hours, ie, a demo, which probably wasn't even 5% of the game.

It was pretty much the whole game due to how level scaling works and how all dungeons are the same. We even had access to all the skills in first beta.
Only thing lacking was access to paragon where it is only passive bonuses anyways.

You saw nothing, you know nothing, and you are speaking from your anus.

You played a demo and you are clueless.

 

[Reinhardt]

i wonder if sdg figured you can upgrade your potions yet...

 

[abija]

What wasn't in the beta:
- tree of whispers: pretty weak by itself but if you do it as side content while doing something else works well
- helltides - bullshit forced fomo mmo style content
- nightmare dungeons - should fire anyone with decision power who was involved in it
(rest of campaign obviously)

 

[Saravan]

This bullshit argument of you having to fund a mediocre product from a nowadays shit company to have an opinion of the game. It's entirely possible to assess something based on reading about it, watching gameplay content and if the option is available, play it during beta to get a feel for things like combat animations etc. You guys are such mouthbreathers.

 

[Peachcurl]

How to identify review bombing:

rating_average ≤ my_rating ± tolerance

fxd

Then you might as well change it to
rating_average ≤ my_rating - tolerance.

I allowed for the rating_average to be larger as well (which works, if you see tolerance as a slack variable rather than a fixed constant), which admittedly doesn't quite fit since review bombing is usually called on negative reviews.

 

[General Disarray]

What nationality is this guy? Russian? Polish?

"I have to dash FIFTEEN times to upgrade my fucking veppon then I have to dash FIFTEEN more times to upgrade my gem, that's five meanutts off my life..."

It's a game, you idiot. I find it funny your rig is barely capable of maintaining what looks like 40fps in it, too. You would think making all these videos would afford you a better PC.

He is right. From D2 and beyond most shops were close enough to not need more than 10s of travelling.
D4 is a walking/riding simulator
Imagine playing a FPS where you spent 70% time in inventory/shops/skills screens

I don't have to imagine, I have played a lot of Tarkov. You only go out on the silly missions to get more loot in order to play the real game.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Oh man they really nailed

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Andariel

perfectly. I've said it once and I'll say it again this game cannot be compared to D3 from an artistic standpoint. This game feels like it was made by people who have played Diablo and are passionate about it. D3 felt like a game that was made by people who never played a Diablo game in their life. These are not comparable.

 

[Saravan]

Babe wake up, new 6 min unhinged video just dropped.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Babe wake up, new 6 min unhinged video just dropped.

You sound like a manbaby. Saying something you don't agree with = unhinged. Maybe you're unhinged.

 

[ArchAngel]

What nationality is this guy? Russian? Polish?

"I have to dash FIFTEEN times to upgrade my fucking veppon then I have to dash FIFTEEN more times to upgrade my gem, that's five meanutts off my life..."

It's a game, you idiot. I find it funny your rig is barely capable of maintaining what looks like 40fps in it, too. You would think making all these videos would afford you a better PC.

He is right. From D2 and beyond most shops were close enough to not need more than 10s of travelling.
D4 is a walking/riding simulator
Imagine playing a FPS where you spent 70% time in inventory/shops/skills screens

I don't have to imagine, I have played a lot of Tarkov. You only go out on the silly missions to get more loot in order to play the real game.

You still spend most time walking around areas where you can be shot at at any second and trying to be ready to shoot back. It is still tense fun gameplay. Sure tarkov has more than usual amount of inventory management but it is nothing close to what I am talking about.
Also Tarkov is extraction survival shooter where that is expected, Diablo likes are supposed to be about killing monsters and getting loot. At least it was like that so far. D1 was like that, D2 was like that, D3 was like that and games like PoE or Grim Dawn are like that.

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and it would seem biggest time waster for Tarkov is endless wait time for missions to start

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones. This means that to play optimally you need to do even less combat and more walking/riding.

 

[ArchAngel]

I did, for about 20+ hours. Tried everyone but Rogue.

You played the beta for 20 hours, ie, a demo, which probably wasn't even 5% of the game.

It was pretty much the whole game due to how level scaling works and how all dungeons are the same. We even had access to all the skills in first beta.
Only thing lacking was access to paragon where it is only passive bonuses anyways.

You saw nothing, you know nothing, and you are speaking from your anus.

You played a demo and you are clueless.

We told you already that when you get drunk you do not need to show us your ass.

 

[abija]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

 

[ArchAngel]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

 

[ArchAngel]

I will admit D4 has two advantages over PoE. Since I went back to playing PoE I was reminded immediately about these things:
1. No eye cancer in D4. In PoE I activate one of the many stupid mechanics like Ritual and game spews out 50 monsters in small area each with their own fireworks. I do not have any clue what is going on or where I am targeting.. I just activate all flasks and all my buffs and hold my one attack button until they or me are dead.
2. No random movement blockers in D4, or at least the game is not fast enough for those to matter. In PoE you hit into shit all the time while trying to use some movement skill or when just trying to move back a bit. So many dungeons are full of small corridors. D4 also has corridors but they are not as tiny.

 

[Vic]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

I haven’t played D4 but in these games you want to reach max level so you can start farming for the best loot.

 

[ArchAngel]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

I haven’t played D4 but in these games you want to reach max level so you can farm for the best loot.

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

 

[Vic]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

I haven’t played D4 but in these games you want to reach max level so you can farm for the best loot.

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

yes that’s why you have to grind for loot if you feel enemies are getting too strong before moving on…. or do all of them scale the same?

 

[abija]

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

That is grossly exagerated and the leap you took on top of it is quite special.

If you have a linear build you kill everything that has some density, if you have a kitchensink cd build, you just kill everything around elite packs, as in every other game (because it's the most efficient way of killing monsters fast relative to your build).

 

[Zlaja]

Guys, if you don't wanna join SDG's clan then maybe these ones are more up your alley?

Also, for you POE fags:

 

[Yosharian]

Immersion ruined!

 

[ArchAngel]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

I haven’t played D4 but in these games you want to reach max level so you can farm for the best loot.

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

yes that’s why you have to grind for loot if you feel enemies are getting too strong before moving on…. or do all of them scale the same?

Everyone everywhere scales. There is nowhere to go and grind. This is what one of the winners of race to 100 talked about. Because as a group they focused on getting 100 instead of gridding gear he cannot use that character to solo anything as he would just die and cannot get loot of needed level. They were also playing hardcore so it is extra hard for that combination as you cannot just Zerg to better loot.

 

[ArchAngel]

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

That is grossly exagerated and the leap you took on top of it is quite special.

If you have a linear build you kill everything that has some density, if you have a kitchensink cd build, you just kill everything around elite packs, as in every other game (because it's the most efficient way of killing monsters fast relative to your build).

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

I haven’t played D4 but in these games you want to reach max level so you can farm for the best loot.

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

yes that’s why you have to grind for loot if you feel enemies are getting too strong before moving on…. or do all of them scale the same?

Everyone everywhere scales. There is nowhere to go and grind. This is what one of the winners of race to 100 talked about. Because as a group they focused on getting 100 instead of gridding gear he cannot use that character to solo anything as he would just die and cannot get loot of needed level. They were also playing hardcore so it is extra hard for that combination as you cannot just Zerg to better loot.

See above explanation.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

What is worse due to how level scaling works, killing monsters in D4 is not recommended unless that monster can also drop good loot. So you are encouraged to skip all overworld monsters and even all normal ones in dungeons and just kill big ones.

HUUUUH?

It is simple math. Most power comes from loot, leveling up just powers up monsters. So you want to get most loot while killing less monsters.

I haven’t played D4 but in these games you want to reach max level so you can farm for the best loot.

Not in D4, if you outlevel your loot too much game becomes impossible to play due to level scaling.

yes that’s why you have to grind for loot if you feel enemies are getting too strong before moving on…. or do all of them scale the same?

All enemies scale with you so you can’t grind areas for loot before moving on to harder content. It’s the same scaling system Gearbox used in Borderlands 3.

 

[abija]

Everyone everywhere scales. There is nowhere to go and grind. This is what one of the winners of race to 100 talked about. Because as a group they focused on getting 100 instead of gridding gear he cannot use that character to solo anything as he would just die and cannot get loot of needed level. They were also playing hardcore so it is extra hard for that combination as you cannot just Zerg to better loot.

Zizaran (I suspect) exagerated for effected, you extrapolated to hell and back.
He can lower difficulty or go to nightmare dungeons and grind some gear. Or even get gear from shops.

They didn't loot for 30smthing levels because "it would slow them down", didn't upgrade any glyph and still were strong enough to clear dungeons in group. He pussied out solo at max level because he plays hardcore but the "bricked" character that cannot progress is bullshit.