King Crispy Saravan is continually spamming and derailing the thread with false information. I think it's time he is removed from the thread until he has an actual frame of reference and not just mime faggy youtubers that nobody cares about.
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Diablo IV
- Thread starter Wulfric Pinewood
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If I tell you no, I'm not going to do that, are you going to declare me your mortal enemy again, start self-harming and post a video of yourself sacrificing a live chicken on your lawn in a bid to damn my eternal soul?
Well no but you could do one thing for me once in your life. Out of the hundreds of times you've refused to help me you could just fucking do it once. Tell you what, kick his ass out of the thread and I will never tag you or ask you for another thing ever again. Pinky swear.
You have not played the game and therefore you do not deserve to be in here conversing with experienced players who have put hundreds or thousands of hours into the game. It's time for you to go buh bye.
Also mandatory "join date 2019". Ha newfag.
Also mandatory "join date 2019". Ha newfag.
Saravan
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Pretty sure it's physically impossible at this date to have put in thousands of hours into D4.
You mean experienced players like yourself who wasn't even aware of the BIS enchantment slot for a class you main? Or you mean experienced players who talk about what works in end game without having reached it? A bit confused sorry.
Getting tired of wasting my time talking to you, especially about the fucking fire bolt shit. It is a 100% waste of an enchantment slot for a pyro sorce because the bonus burning damage it adds is microscopic in comparison to the burning damage you stack from items, other skills, and the paragon board. It is completely fucking useless as an enchantment skill for a pyro sorce. There is no reason to use it for anything other than a basic attack you stupid, stupid, stupid mother fucker.
spectre
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Thread brings a tear to my eye. No only do we see SDG take his baby steps in baby's first arpg, he also gets trolled on the internets for the first time.
Glad saravan was here with us to make it special.
By the way, that's pretty much it when it comes to your attention quota from me.
Though I think I dislike the global potion count more. Starting with 9, you no longer need to think about conserving them.
But then again, they probably realized people will only have the patience to grind these bonuses once.
You're meant to waltz past the first ~30 levels anyway, so it works out in the end.
I think the place to most definitely find out what works and what doesn't is at the first capstone anyway, which is where level scaling sorta
catches up with you. If you're struggling with either the mobs or the final boss, means back to the drawing board.
I managed to do it earliest at level 46 with fortify/pulverize druid, took it as a good sign.
Motherfucker can be made nigh-unkillable, so if I ever get around to making a HC char, which I probably won't, because of the online thing,
I'd pick this guy.
Also, you need to check the Aspects cause they fuck around with skill tags, bear roar can be made into a werewolf skill and bear ultimate can be switched to a greater werewolf, for example.
Plenty of werewolf skills can also be switched to earth skills, means you will reconsider stuff like Earthen Might.
Glad saravan was here with us to make it special.
Considering retards who get all authoritative about a game they mostly "played" on youtube, I think that's a fair match.
By the way, that's pretty much it when it comes to your attention quota from me.
Yeah, at first it felt weird they did it like this, totally takes the balance out of the early game.
Though I think I dislike the global potion count more. Starting with 9, you no longer need to think about conserving them.
But then again, they probably realized people will only have the patience to grind these bonuses once.
You're meant to waltz past the first ~30 levels anyway, so it works out in the end.
I think the place to most definitely find out what works and what doesn't is at the first capstone anyway, which is where level scaling sorta
catches up with you. If you're struggling with either the mobs or the final boss, means back to the drawing board.
I managed to do it earliest at level 46 with fortify/pulverize druid, took it as a good sign.
Motherfucker can be made nigh-unkillable, so if I ever get around to making a HC char, which I probably won't, because of the online thing,
I'd pick this guy.
Also, you need to check the Aspects cause they fuck around with skill tags, bear roar can be made into a werewolf skill and bear ultimate can be switched to a greater werewolf, for example.
Plenty of werewolf skills can also be switched to earth skills, means you will reconsider stuff like Earthen Might.
Saravan
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Key difference being that I do not place any conditionals on the legitimacy of a statement based on whether or not I have personal experience. If you are going to play that game at least have the experience to also back it up, else it's just a comical comparison.
The 'not gonna give you attention' meme doesn't really work if you spend the effort to make a reply. P(l)aying D4 must really require you to turn off your brain. So many inconsistencies.
End-game content starts OFFICIALLY at WT3 and the second phase of end-game content starts at WT4. Also, in Nightmare dungeons 70+, enemies will massively outlevel you no matter how high your LV is, which means this content can't really be compared to anything else you'll encounter in WT4. IMO, if you can handle everything in WT4 just fine, except the type of Nightmare dungeons where you're facing enemies 30 Lvs above you, then your build can be considered 'good' in general.
I was playing Diablo 1 before Saravan was probably swimming around in his daddy's nutsack. I'm arguably the biggest championer of the Soulsborne games here and was playing them before 99% of the people here because I had access to Demon's Souls at launch while PC gamers did not. Big Dragon's Dogma fan as well. Wtf you on about?
Saravan
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Literal definition of end-game is at the end of a campaign for ARPG:s but everyone who is not a retard understands real end-game starts at WT4 as it's the last WT. If WT5 is introduced in S1 then start of WT5 is the beginning of end-game. The vast majority agrees that WT3 is just a quick stepping stone to get some upgrades to gear from helltide to then quickly get over the capstone dungeon for WT4. Really not that complicated.
Saravan
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I played D1 religiously but what's more important here is despite having such ARPG history (Dragon's Dogma is really not the same kind of top-down ARPG but w/e) you are so goddamn bad at D4. That's really funny to me.
Ty bro, appreciate your attempt at getting caught up in literal definitions of terms that are irrelevant as they are never used in actual discourse around the game.
Not sure how you would know that since you've never played it. Anyways welcome to my ignore list.
Btw I know Saravan is too retarded to feel shame and embarassment, but he is absolutely one of those pathetic fags who look up perfect build videos and reads wikis rather than experimenting with builds himself. That makes him a useless pussy, the worst type of Diablo player, and is yet another reason why he should be removed from the thread.
abija
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Edgelord video that starts with "blizzard did a decent job with the story". Oh god he doesn't mince his words... ramble ramble ramble "it made me realize all the arpgs have these problems". Video closed.
Btw, still haven't defined what you call endgame or what a build needs to accomplish before it's "Saravan endgame approved".
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member Andariel? Member when you died to Duriel?
Iluvcheezcake
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Atleast they gave Andariel some buildup and an explanation for why she is there. Duriel literally just shows up out of the blue for no rhyme or reason and then of course dies. Never any mention of him before or after he shows up. That part was dumb, lol.
I think I've sold myself on the Rogue.
No, they had been intending for renown to start over at 0 for all your seasonal characters and to have to grind it up again. Similarly with hardcore characters. It's why it says the bonus applies to all the characters on that realm. They only started walking it back on the seasonal characters after people started bitching, but it sounded to me like it's still not a blanket carry over, just some sort of compromise.
Duriel's supposed to be a joke. In D2, people would remember getting assfucked by Duriel repeatedly. D4, after nuking the fuck out of him, the character is like: Huh, who was that? Maybe it was one of the scary guys Lorath was talking about. Oh well, whatever.
Grampy_Bone
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Hey, now you're moving the goalposts, but at least you're committing to something. Yeah I changed one core skill for another, but Rapid Fire was actually my starting build, so I'm going back to what worked at the beginning of the game. Still not using a meme build from some youtuber in either case. I think most people use twisting blades which I've never liked.
If I reach WT4 without touching a meme build, will you admit you were wrong?
His main complaint is that he needs to get new items as he levels up to replace weaker items, and the more you play the harder this becomes.
I mean... just... what? I actually agree, this becomes tedious after awhile, but has there ever been an ARPG where that was not the case? Name one where the loot you find at level 1 lasts the whole game. Do you play through Diablo with your 1d4 shortsword? There is a point in PoE where it becomes mathematically infinitesimal that you will be able to find the item you *need* to progress, and your only hope is shady third party currency farming sites. Is that an improvement?
Grampy_Bone
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I don't think I've seen someone study the meta this hard in a game they don't even own. Either he's poor and can't afford it and this is sour grapes, or it's an example of Grampybone's Law: People complain the most about games they are bad at.
Saravan show me on the doll where Diablo 4 hurt you.
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