Diablo IV

[Saravan]

Start of end-game phase = Reaching WT4. You haven't reached it and it's completely irrelevant what works at WT3, which btw by your own admission you even at that point had to change your fantastic build.

Hey, now you're moving the goalposts, but at least you're committing to something. Yeah I changed one core skill for another, but Rapid Fire was actually my starting build, so I'm going back to what worked at the beginning of the game. Still not using a meme build from some youtuber in either case. I think most people use twisting blades which I've never liked.

If I reach WT4 without touching a meme build, will you admit you were wrong?

Never moved the goalpost. Always said WT4 was the start of the end-game with WT5 being the new marker if introduced in S1. Reaching WT4 means nothing more than you having reached the start of the end-game. My point was that you can't talk shit about your build from the perspective of WT3 as it's irrelevant.

Considering retards who get all authoritative about a game they mostly "played" on youtube, I think that's a fair match.

I don't think I've seen someone study the meta this hard in a game they don't even own. Either he's poor and can't afford it and this is sour grapes, or it's an example of Grampybone's Law: People complain the most about games they are bad at.

So now the problem is I know too much, lmao pick a lane.

Saravan show me on the doll where Diablo 4 hurt you.

You really gotta stop with these cringy quips that were relevant like 15 years ago. First Skyrim now this...

 

[agris]

the one thing i've learned from wading through all the shit in this thread is:

if your brain is addled by alcohol, you can't realize your inherent potential so you just live in a bed in a trailer and have trouble articulating yourself on the internet, D4 is the game for you!

 

[spectre]

Video games are for losers, news at 11.

 

[bloodlover]

I hope they release S1 sooner rather than later. I think that they usually release Heartstone seasons one week after the announcements so fingers crossed they will do the same for D4. There's still plenty of stuff to do in game but BG3 is just around the corner and I won't be playing any D4 once that comes around. Although, I feel like they are most likely to take into consideration the PoE season starts and it would be a bad idea for Blizz to have them collide.

 

[Old Hans]

Atleast they gave Andariel some buildup and an explanation for why she is there. Duriel literally just shows up out of the blue for no rhyme or reason and then of course dies. Never any mention of him before or after he shows up. That part was dumb, lol.

I feel like those types of demon lords are best used as background threats that you never actually see or fight. It always feels so disappointing. its like everyone in the lore is all "if that thing escapes its all over for the entire planet" and then I show up and kill it with my 5 skeleton minions

 

[abija]

Never moved the goalpost. Always said WT4 was the start of the end-game with WT5 being the new marker if introduced in S1. Reaching WT4 means nothing more than you having reached the start of the end-game. My point was that you can't talk shit about your build from the perspective of WT3 as it's irrelevant.

When I linked you some random yt wt4 build you said it's not good to push high NM. So cmon, commit. Say something precise. "Starts at WT4" is beyond generic and you already said is not good enough. You using it vs people that didn't reach WT4 while not acceptiong it in other posts is the definition of goalpost moving.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Lvl 66 now, still enjoying the game, WT3 atm.
Started doing nightmare dungeons, finishing up the quests and Lilith statues for rep and stat bonuses. Doing it nice n slow.
Did the "By three they come", at first didnt realise it was the quest chain about dudes from Lilliths summoning.
Think i will clear the capstone dungeon and move to WT4 soon, probably tonight if i have the time.
Item upgrading and applying aspect to them really tickles my inner ocd.

The game is good so far, no regrets on the purchase

 

[KIss My Ass]

They only started walking it back on the seasonal characters after people started bitching, but it sounded to me like it's still not a blanket carry over, just some sort of compromise.

Well their compromise isn't good enough. I'm not going to keep farming renown after season 1. It's all going to have to carry over or I wont be buying any more battle passes. I'll be more than happy sticking to the eternal realm.

 

[mediocrepoet]

They only started walking it back on the seasonal characters after people started bitching, but it sounded to me like it's still not a blanket carry over, just some sort of compromise.

Well their compromise isn't good enough. I'm not going to keep farming renown after season 1. It's all going to have to carry over or I wont be buying any more battle passes. I'll be more than happy sticking to the eternal realm.

Yeah, you'll show them by only buying hundreds of bucks worth of cosmetics. Stand tall, man!

 

[Zlaja]

Video games are for losers, news at 11.

Especially RPGs.

Did the "By three they come", at first didnt realise it was the quest chain about dudes from Lilliths summoning

I enjoyed sidequests like those, and wish they left out obvious filler crap like 'fill this shit with souls/energy/spirits so it opens up'.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Yeah, you'll show them by only buying hundreds of bucks worth of cosmetics. Stand tall, man!

Nah I think I'm done with that shit. At this point I'm only willing to spend money on skins that make the female characters more sexy and a not-fat druid.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

pick a lane.

It's not a contradictory statement. You can be knowledgable about a game while still completely sucking at it. Knowing where the jumps and powerups are in Mario Bros. doesn't get you the princess. You're just an armchair quarterback.

"By three they come"

Interesting, I was hoping they did a call back to the opening. Where is that quest? I skipped a lot of side stuff to try to get to WT3 quicker. I'm only just starting on the Strongholds and they're quite intense at this level.

 

[Zlaja]

Interesting, I was hoping they did a call back to the opening. Where is that quest?

In one of the settlements in Hawezar (probably main one). There's a priest there standing in front of a church, and he wants to find out what happened to Symon (black scholar from the intro), who belongs to his perish.

 

[KIss My Ass]

I'm only just starting on the Strongholds and they're quite intense at this level.

They're still the hardest content I've seen in the game. I'm not counting wt4 because that stuff is just literally impossible to do at my level. Well the nightmare dungeon I tried was.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Edgelord video

That video was kind of amazing because it was posted as evidence the game is too easy and casual, but all the complaints in the vid were that the game isn't casual enough.

-Complains that aspects are important for builds and wants higher item drop rates to make it easier to find them.
-Random packs are a threat and he dies often, he wants more easily farmable trash mobs.
-Doesn't like that skills have to be combo'd--he can't just max one skill and spam it.
-He doesn't want to engage with the open world, wants the content to be spoon fed to him.

Sounds like a Diablo Immortal player tbh.

The only valid point I think is that Ultimates are undercooked. It does seem like they are being skipped over as skill slots are too valuable to waste on a skill that sits on cooldown for most of a fight. The only reason I use Deathtrap is because of the key passive that lets me reset the cooldown, I think there should be more mechanics like this for Ults. Otherwise they really need a buff or a rework.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

They're still the hardest content I've seen in the game.

It was a wakeup call because for the last ~10-15 levels of WT2 I was snoozing my way through the battles. I am able to clear them still just by playing a bit more cautiously.

We'll see if I can handle NMD but I may get bored of the game by then, or have to look up a build online like some filthy degenerate.

 

[Zlaja]

I'm only just starting on the Strongholds and they're quite intense at this level.

They're still the hardest content I've seen in the game. I'm not counting wt4 because that stuff is just literally impossible to do at my level. Well the nightmare dungeon I tried was.

Helltide mobs are generally more challenging than any stronghold. Try doing events inside hellltides and see if it spawns a helltide boss for you. Probably tankiest bosses (not saying much tho, since bosses are a pushover in WT3).

 

[Skinwalker]

What is season 1, and will it continue the story?

 

[Grampy_Bone]

It will probably be something like "The Blorp Bloop has affected Sanctuary, and now you must fight the Dorgolons to collect the missing Twerbles and restore the Yigyams. Please pay $10 and spend 100 hours of your life to earn more useless cosmetics (SDG)."

Honestly the game this most reminds me of is Guild Wars 2, and the 'living world' content of that post-campaign was pretty horrid. I'm guessing the seasons will be lame until a real expansion is released.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Not even mad that I've spent over $200 on the game thus far. I've played for well over 200 hours so far so if you really think about it that's like $1 for a couple hours of gameplay. That's cheaper than a strip club where you could spend hundreds of dollars in a few hours.

 

[spectre]

After not giving me shit for literally days, the game decided to start dispensing Uniques. Got Penitent Greaves from PvP and just now got Frostburn and Rainment of the Infinite
from the same nightmare dungeon. Guess Teleport goes back into the enchantment slot, baby.

There's also a nice interaction between two monster types. The big spiders will latch onto the bloated zombies and "animate" them.
The game didn't pair them too often so I barely noticed. Wish blizzard would do more of those, cause little bits like this break some of the monotony of the tiny creature pool.

So far, that's my biggest gripe with the game, it's not that noticeable if you swap areas often, but because the monsters overlap,
you don't get that fresh feeling often if you're fighting ghosts + spiders then spiders + snakes then snakes + ghosts then ghosts + goatmen.

Second biggest is this fucking tedious "brings rock to pedestal" crap you get in dungeons. Whoever thought having three of this crap in a dungeon was good...
Seems like they saw how tedious this is, because the big ass rock or crystal gives you a +25% movement speed bonus as you haul it on your back (because this is totally how it works).

I'd also like to see a rework of the inventory, gems aspects and gear taking up the same space is daft, but I guess that's console interface keeping us down.
Also, gems turned out really crappy. Makes me wish for Runes, just to get some additional options, which isn't a good sign at all.

 

[KIss My Ass]

I'm having a harder and harder time playing this lol. I keep telling myself "ight I'm starting this beast up and doing some grinding" and I log in, and then I just sit at the character screen for hours while I browse codex. Maybe I should go back to that Aliens game.

 

[Reinhardt]

you need new outfit to spice things up. old one is too old.

 

[NecroLord]

you need new outfit to spice things up. old one is too old.

That'll be 20 bucks!

 

[KIss My Ass]

That Blizzard stream is today. They better say season 1 starts tomorrow.

I feel like I'm just stuck as this impasse where leveling up has become agonizingly slow, I'm not finding better gear anymore, and there's the grinding renown bullshit. It's all mindnumbingly dull. And the game isn't challenging me much in wt3.