Diablo IV

[Skinwalker]

Speaking of masochism: playing on World Tier 4 as a level 60 is indeed Torment. However, I'm perversely enjoying the challenge, getting better gear, and already leveled up to 61 after just a few side quests and dungeons.

WT3 got laughably easy towards the end there, not to mention a slog as far as leveling, and I was at risk of dropping the game entirely. The pain of getting repeatedly one-shotted by a hundred increased health+damage resist+lightning spam+teleporting elites breathed new life into the playthrough.

Still not playing the seasonal content with a brand new character. Blizzard can fuck right off what that one.

 

[KIss My Ass]

I'm discovering that at lvl 25 I completely suck at playing as a Rogue. It's all me, not the class' fault. I just don't understand the ebb and flow of the character. I have no synergy between my skills, no rhythm. A basic fight for me consists of activating ice imbuement and shroud whatever, then I run in and throw caltrops and spam barrage, blow my load and then I'm defenceless.

Gotta run around in circles waiting for my cooldowns to disappear hoping I don't die and all that. The sorce is garbage but I know how to use her. Been maining her for decades. I think the biggest problems I'm having is the Rogue doesn't have an equivalent to Flame Shield which was an essential tool for me. I also don't think she has a conjuration skill I know of that I can rely on to chip away health while I regroup. I need some AoE skills that do damage over time. Far as I know the caltrops are just meant to slow things down. I don't know what I'm doing. I want to get good with her but as of right now I'm clueless. I moved down to WT1. Humiliating.

Speaking of masochism: playing on World Tier 4 as a level 60 is indeed Torment. However, I'm perversely enjoying the challenge, getting better gear, and already leveled up to 61 after just a few side quests and dungeons.

WT3 got laughably easy towards the end there, not to mention a slog as far as leveling, and I was at risk of dropping the game entirely. The pain of getting repeatedly one-shotted by a hundred increased health+damage resist+lightning spam+teleporting elites breathed new life into the playthrough.

What class you playin as again? I forgot.

 

[Crispy]

What class you playin as again? I forgot.

He plays a rogue. The class that you apparently can't handle.

 

[Zlaja]

I moved down to WT1. Humiliating

Meanwhile, my (mainly) Lightning Sorc hasn't died once at Lv.24 and is mowing down everyone and their mom with ease. I just finished nuking two strongholds and during those boss fights I never went below 7/9 healing pots.

Spark + Charged Bolts is a great combo. 4 out of my 6 active skills are lightning based, so I think this char can be considered a 'Lightning Sorc'. The only non-lightning stuff I'm using are the 2 defensive skills. Frost Nova is one of those, which I consider a must for any Sorc build.

 

[Skinwalker]

What class you playin as again? I forgot.

Rogue. You restore energy for your core skill (e.g. Rapid Fire) by spamming the basic skill, they pretty much all restore energy (but Puncture is the one I use). There should never be a time when you're just running around waiting for cooldowns, always attack.

 

[Reinhardt]

imgaine being filtered by a fucking diablo 4...

 

[abija]

SDG how's Nilcar doing? Visited your buddy yet?

 

[e-mailio estevez]

I'm discovering that at lvl 25 I completely suck at playing as a Rogue. It's all me, not the class' fault. I just don't understand the ebb and flow of the character. I have no synergy between my skills, no rhythm. A basic fight for me consists of activating ice imbuement and shroud whatever, then I run in and throw caltrops and spam barrage, blow my load and then I'm defenceless.

Gotta run around in circles waiting for my cooldowns to disappear hoping I don't die and all that. The sorce is garbage but I know how to use her. Been maining her for decades. I think the biggest problems I'm having is the Rogue doesn't have an equivalent to Flame Shield which was an essential tool for me. I also don't think she has a conjuration skill I know of that I can rely on to chip away health while I regroup. I need some AoE skills that do damage over time. Far as I know the caltrops are just meant to slow things down. I don't know what I'm doing. I want to get good with her but as of right now I'm clueless. I moved down to WT1. Humiliating.

Flameshield on the Sorc is very easy to get accustomed to because it's a Panic/Invincibility button. Had Blizzard not nerfed cooldown reduction I think it would've been possible to have nearly 100% uptime on Flameshield, essentially giving you permanent invincibility.

I won't begrudge you for not being proficient with the rogue... But seriously, Rapid Fire + Flurry is all you need. If you (or anyone else) needs me to carry you through the first capstone I'll be happy to do it. But seriously, just spec all-in with Flurry (for AOE damage) and Rapid Fire (for single-target boss damage) and you can't go wrong. I personally like the Shadow Enchant because when you kill a trash mob with it there's an AOE explosion. Rapid Fire destroys bosses, so having an enchant that can deal with packs of trash mobs is useful.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

I have to say I’ve really been enjoying Diablo 4 the last couple weeks. Not as a game, I haven’t played Diablo 4 at all. But it’s been pretty funny following all the reactions to the game these last two weeks. It’s like Diablo 4 just keeps taking hits and YouTube just keeps spitting them out for me. The developers looks so sad in their explanation video that people didn’t like the things they did that I’m sure they already knew people wouldn’t like.

After having Vicarious Visions remake Diablo 2 for them it really seems they should’ve basically just taken that and have Diablo 4 essentially just be Diablo 2 with better animations and some more classes.

 

[abija]

e-mailio estevez
Did you seriously just advised a 2 core (spender) skill build, 1 melee and 1 ranged , without anything that could create some synergy between them?

 

[e-mailio estevez]

I would seriously challenge you not to melt any boss with puncture (for vulnerability) and just 5 points into rapid fire.

So what do you do about packs of trash at that point? AOE Flurry and Shadow Imbuement works just fine.

Mana really is barely a consideration for the rogue. At least if you're using combo points which already regains mana.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Rogue. You restore energy for your core skill (e.g. Rapid Fire) by spamming the basic skill, they pretty much all restore energy (but Puncture is the one I use). There should never be a time when you're just running around waiting for cooldowns, always attack.

Maybe I'm crazy but rapid fire feels really weak to me compared to barrage, and I heard some people claim that barrage is far more powerful in the later stages of the game effectively rendering rapid fire useless. I have to spam rapid fire on a single enemy for it to die where as with barrage I can one-shot or nearly one-shot alot of enemies, but I have to use it like a shotgun and get right up in their face. I haven't tried flurry yet like e-mailio estevez suggested. I'll give that a shot, and also try twin blades.

I also don't like the character's ultimate. The hail of arrows (can't think of what it's called). Feels really weak in comparison to Sorc's inferno. I haven't tried the other ultimate yet.

I moved down to WT1. Humiliating

Meanwhile, my (mainly) Lightning Sorc hasn't died once at Lv.24 and is mowing down everyone and their mom with ease. I just finished nuking two strongholds and during those boss fights I never went below 7/9 healing pots.

Spark + Charged Bolts is a great combo. 4 out of my 6 active skills are lightning based, so I think this char can be considered a 'Lightning Sorc'. The only non-lightning stuff I'm using are the 2 defensive skills. Frost Nova is one of those, which I consider a must for any Sorc build.

Well yeah she's very competent in the early to mid-game. I didn't have any problems with her either, not like I am with the Rogue. You've got a long ways to go yet before running into the brick wall.

Flameshield on the Sorc is very easy to get accustomed to because it's a Panic/Invincibility button. Had Blizzard not nerfed cooldown reduction I think it would've been possible to have nearly 100% uptime on Flameshield, essentially giving you permanent invincibility.

I won't begrudge you for not being proficient with the rogue... But seriously, Rapid Fire + Flurry is all you need. If you (or anyone else) needs me to carry you through the first capstone I'll be happy to do it. But seriously, just spec all-in with Flurry (for AOE damage) and Rapid Fire (for single-target boss damage) and you can't go wrong. I personally like the Shadow Enchant because when you kill a trash mob with it there's an AOE explosion. Rapid Fire destroys bosses, so having an enchant that can deal with packs of trash mobs is useful.

Flame Shield is fucking amazing. That is easily my favorite skill in the game. It has saved my ass countless times. It can get you out of literally any type of bad situation, and it never felt OP to me. Just an all around extremely useful tool. I miss it dearly.

This post was very informative btw. Thanks.

 

[Reinhardt]

Well yeah she's very competent in the early to mid-game. I didn't have any problems with her either

that's... not the impression we got from your earlier posts...

 

[Filthy Sauce]

Lightning/ ice sorc at 40 with no problems yet. Actually... Mana regen is a problem... Again. My original used crackling orbs for mana candy which did work, but I want to try to avoid that this time. Too much ability points to make them drop constantly. Also I would have to waste a slot on teleport. Even then it's too risky in WT3 to bolt in for the crack.

One death so far (butcher).

 

[KIss My Ass]

These two guys are the best D4 youtube sources if you're at all invested in the D4 news and drama and all that shit. Niether feel like shills. Asmongold is a pretty funny guy and the other dude keeps things short and to the point.




I didn't watch the actual fireside chat myself or Asmongold's video yet but based off the first video it sounds like the chat went well. Blizz staff showed humility, promised to unfuck the sorc, speed up character progression, etc. Basically it sounds like they acknowleged they fucked up and it isn't going to happen again. Whether that holds true, time will tell.

 

[Zlaja]

I have to say I’ve really been enjoying Diablo 4 the last couple weeks. Not as a game, I haven’t played Diablo 4 at all. But it’s been pretty funny following all the reactions to the game these last two weeks. It’s like Diablo 4 just keeps taking hits and YouTube just keeps spitting them out for me

You should bear in mind that most 'reaction' content regarding the game on YT is just clickbait garbage for 12 year olds. Can be said for most 'reaction' content, sure, but it's been extra retarded for this game lately.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Laughing at retarded developers is worth every clickbait. There should be even higher amount of videos pointing the low IQ design all these nuBlizzard morons are spewing. Where are the 15 hours autism filled Skyrim-like videos!!!

 

[Reinhardt]

Asmongold is a pretty funny guy

i just lost one last bit of respect for sdg i didn't even know i had...

 

[d1r]

 

[abija]

Well yeah she's very competent in the early to mid-game. I didn't have any problems with her either, not like I am with the Rogue. You've got a long ways to go yet before running into the brick wall.

Already forgot about Nilcar? And that other stronghold boss you posted a vid of, where you bored him to death. I guess enough booze make memories pink...

d1r
These game journalists man... so lazy can't even make a proper meme. 5 mins of extra work was too much...

 

[KIss My Ass]

Made a few small adjustments to my Rogue. I went with Shadow Imbuement which seems like a big improvement over poison and ice. Gives me that AoE effect I've been missing from my sorce. Changed my ultimate to death trap. Seems better than rain of arrows and is kind of similar to inferno in that it sucks enemies in. Also replaced dark shroud will concealment, because concealment sounds more similar to flame shield. I'm basically trying to make her somewhat similar to my sorc, lol. But the changes have been positive so far.

Already forgot about Nilcar? And that other stronghold boss you posted a vid of, where you bored him to death. I guess enough booze make memories pink...

Oh yeah I remember him now, and the other female stronghold boss. Those were the only two that gave me major problems, and the issue was my build at the time wasn't capable of dealing with the specific types of enemies they were spawning. The bosses themselves weren't the problem. I cleared out the other strongholds no problem and once I started getting sacred items I was able to wreck Nilcar and the other chick. Also cool it with the hostile attitude. I've been pretty respectful towards you.

 

[Zlaja]

There should be even higher amount of videos pointing the low IQ design all these nuBlizzard morons are spewing

Except most clickbait garbage is trying to tell you that the game is supposedly "ruined" by oh-so-horrible nerfs in an already pretty easy game, rather than focus on where the game actually falters, which is sub-par endgame and unexciting endgame itemization.

 

[Skinwalker]

Maybe I'm crazy but rapid fire feels really weak to me compared to barrage, and I heard some people claim that barrage is far more powerful in the later stages of the game effectively rendering rapid fire useless. I have to spam rapid fire on a single enemy for it to die where as with barrage I can one-shot or nearly one-shot alot of enemies, but I have to use it like a shotgun and get right up in their face. I haven't tried flurry yet like @e-mailio estevez suggested. I'll give that a shot, and also try twin blades.

You can try various core skills and see what you like better, but I've been using Rapid Fire the whole game and it's made WT3 a joke, and WT4 is quite playable ten levels too early. Also, try Death Trap in combination with Poison trap, plus the passives. And don't forget to always be attacking. If you're out of energy and everything is on cooldown, you should be spamming your basic skill, it's essential for a Rogue.

 

[Gamezor]

Is this fun if I do not care about story or cut scenes at all? Is there sufficient variety in game play?

I don’t see how the level scaling could possibly work but does it?

 

[KIss My Ass]

You can try various core skills and see what you like better, but I've been using Rapid Fire the whole game and it's made WT3 a joke, and WT4 is quite playable ten levels too early. Also, try Death Trap in combination with Poison trap, plus the passives. And don't forget to always be attacking. If you're out of energy and everything is on cooldown, you should be spamming your basic skill, it's essential for a Rogue.

Already started using Death Trap. Seems way more effective than Rain of Arrows. That Poison Trap combo sounds like a good idea. She is definitely better now, especially with Concealment. I don't think Shroud was worth a fuck, except for the movement speed bonus. There are plenty of other alternatives for movement speed. I'm getting the hang of her.



I also just took part in a legion event where for the first time ever I felt like I was actually contributing. I did countless legion events as my sorc and never once did I feel like I contributed. Everybody else was killing shit so fast I could barely get a single spell casted before everything was dead.

Is this fun if I do not care about story or cut scenes at all? Is there sufficient variety in game play?

I don’t see how the level scaling could possibly work but does it?

Yeah you should have a good time. I don't think update 1.1 did anything to ruin the experience for newcomers. It was more a detriment for people who have been playing since launch.