Diablo IV

[Just Locus]

So I'm unsure if this has been discussed on this thread, but how has the new update effectively "ruined" the game for many folks? I've heard many things such as the patch ruining Necromancer and Barbarian builds, how it hasn't fixed the fact that the game gets progressively unfun in the late game, and how low-level players carry with their auto attacks during Co-Op.

I've been thinking about getting the game and I'm relatively new to the Diablo franchise since it hasn't caught my interest in the least and I've heard many good things about IV but many seem to have abandoned it after the new update or "season" dropped.

 

[Zlaja]

So I'm unsure if this has been discussed on this thread, but how has the new update effectively "ruined" the game for many folks?

Min-maxers who researched their build online got upset that their builds are now little less OP. Also, same people whining how they can't boost their low lev alts as quickly as before with the help of friends. Game ruined, man!

Also, if you're knew to Diablo franchise, than why not play D1 and D2R first?

 

[KIss My Ass]

So I'm unsure if this has been discussed on this thread, but how has the new update effectively "ruined" the game for many folks?

Min-maxers who researched their build online got upset that their builds are now little less OP.

Lol it wasn't just min-maxers. I'm clearly not one and it fucked my sorc over. I was able to do tier 21-22 NM dungeons consistently and after 1.1 I started failing them. It wasn't just min-maxers, they made EVERYBODY weaker. That is objectively very bad. In my case they put me in a situation where I'd have to drop to lower tiers and spend far more time grinding.

 

[Zeriel]

There should be even higher amount of videos pointing the low IQ design all these nuBlizzard morons are spewing

Except most clickbait garbage is trying to tell you that the game is supposedly "ruined" by oh-so-horrible nerfs in an already pretty easy game, rather than focus on where the game actually falters, which is sub-par endgame and unexciting endgame itemization.

It's less about changes being unacceptable, and more about timing and their attitude. It's like if you're doing a grand opening for a store, and right before the grand opening you announce that all prices will be increased by 100%. It's just really stupid behavior in general.

Season starts are supposed to be an exciting time, not when you tell players to fuck off and return in several months/a year. Which, ironically, is what their campfire chat amounted to too. "Yeah we know it sucks, but trust us we will fix it in season 2/3."

Although as I noted before, and as everyone who has looked at the changes agrees on, their nerfs were totally pointless too, which just adds to player distaste. They didn't actually change any of the balance considerations they supposedly were trying to attack (i.e, making vulnerable a choice rather than required), they just made everyone less powerful than before but the balance issues remain there just as before, because vulnerable is just as desirable as before.

I think the combination of obvious incompetency and blanket, unspecific claims of "trust us, we know what we are doing" is what really annoys people.

 

[Just Locus]

So I'm unsure if this has been discussed on this thread, but how has the new update effectively "ruined" the game for many folks?

Min-maxers who researched their build online got upset that their builds are now little less OP. Also, same people whining how they can't boost their low lev alts as quickly as before with the help of friends. Game ruined, man!

Huh, strange, I've heard nothing but the opposite of that lol
but fair enough.

Also, if you're new to Diablo franchise, than why not play D1 and D2R first?

They just never caught my interest to be perfectly honest, This recent controversy with the new patch is the most attention I've given to Diablo lmao

 

[KIss My Ass]

Meme Knight give it a shot. It's a good time, and you don't need to play the other games to follow the story. Like I told the other guy 1.1 isn't going to ruin the experience for newcomers. You're gonna have pretty much the same experience as launch players, minus the feeling of being fucked in the ass.

 

[abija]

Could be a case of dangerhair infestation. Could be a case of devs without balls to say no to their bosses. Result is diarrhea tech:

Joseph Piepiora
@JPiepiora
13h
Replying to @Espen_OK
When we say they are expensive what we mean is that they create a lot of memory overhead. When you see another player in game you load them and their entire stash filled with all their items. This is what teams are working diligently to improve so that we can have more asap.
Joseph Piepiora
@JPiepiora
13h
Basically this isn’t a storage concern it’s a performance concern

Like I told the other guy 1.1 isn't going to ruin the experience for newcomers. You're gonna have pretty much the same experience as launch players, minus the feeling of being fucked in the ass.

Just to make it clear for people that look for advice (and might get confused by SDG's nonsense): season 1 is easier than game at release.

I've been thinking about getting the game and I'm relatively new to the Diablo franchise since it hasn't caught my interest in the least and I've heard many good things about IV but many seem to have abandoned it after the new update or "season" dropped.

You should buy the ultimate edition and check if they still have collector edition boxes. Never go half retard.

 

[Filthy Sauce]

They brute forced the patch because of the season deadline. They thought they needed those nerfs to counter the malnutritioned hearts.

Season players, who have to start new characters anyway can build around the problems, to an extent.

People that have no interest in seasons really got fucked, as their 88 character came back from 'Nam with a blown off kneecap with a side of PTSD.

 

[KIss My Ass]

HOTFIX:

Just to make it clear for people that look for advice (and might get confused by SDG's nonsense): season 1 is easier than game at release.

Oh look, more unprovoked passive aggressive faggotry. What exactly have I been saying in this thread that is nonsense? Stop with the cryptic bullshit and just come out with it already.

*hovers finger over ignore button*

 

[Just Locus]

Meme Knight give it a shot. It's a good time, and you don't need to play the other games to follow the story. Like I told the other guy 1.1 isn't going to ruin the experience for newcomers. You're gonna have pretty much the same experience as launch players, minus the feeling of being fucked in the ass.

I've been thinking about getting the game and I'm relatively new to the Diablo franchise since it hasn't caught my interest in the least and I've heard many good things about IV but many seem to have abandoned it after the new update or "season" dropped.

You should buy the ultimate edition and check if they still have collector edition boxes. Never go half retard.

I'll keep those in mind, much appreciated

 

[KIss My Ass]

Meme Knight you should consider a different avatar. I keep thinking you're Grauken and it's freaking me out.

 

[Zlaja]

They just never caught my interest to be perfectly honest, This recent controversy with the new patch is the most attention I've given to Diablo lmao

So, you only got interested in the Diablo franchise because of the recent patch drama? That's kinda like suddently getting interested in the Baldurs Gate franchise because of the recent bear-fucking drama.

Meme Knight you should consider a different avatar. I keep thinking you're Grauken and it's freaking me out.

Same here. I was thinking to myself "Wow, Grauken never played a Diablo game before. Weird".

 

[Just Locus]

They just never caught my interest to be perfectly honest, This recent controversy with the new patch is the most attention I've given to Diablo lmao

So, you only got interested in the Diablo franchise because of the recent patch drama? That's kinda like suddently getting interested in the Baldurs Gate franchise because of the recent bear-fucking drama.

I mean, My general friend group was talking about it and it got me curious, I don't really see any problem with that.

 

[frajaq]

Diablo 4 coding lol

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Diablo 4 coding lol

lol That sounds like total bullshit as there is zero memory difference when you see other players in town.

 

[KIss My Ass]

HOTFIX:

So I finally got around to watching this video I posted earlier. I got really excited when I seen the fix was for NM dungeons. Then find out the fix is only for tiers 30 and up so my sorc is still terminally fucked LMAO. I'm not even mad about it anymore. The sorc fuckery is just a comedy at this point.

 

[KIss My Ass]

God I wish I had some talent or just basic knowledge of video editing. I would make a montage of her just kicking ass and I would lay a thrash metal track over it like some Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, or Pantera. I need to learn how to do that shit.

 

[Reinhardt]

just use benny hill music

 

[Zeriel]

 

[Skinwalker]

God I wish I had some talent or just basic knowledge of video editing. I would make a montage of her just kicking ass and I would lay a thrash metal track over it like some Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, or Pantera. I need to learn how to do that shit.

Why are you playing on WT1?

 

[mediocrepoet]

God I wish I had some talent or just basic knowledge

We all wish you did, tbh.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Why are you playing on WT1?

Because you level up faster in wt1.

Wt2 is still pointless as far as I know. It only exists to slow down progression. There only needs to be three world tiers.

 

[Cyberarmy]

"Diablo 4 Associate Game Director Joe Piepiora has revealed that Stash Tabs are a performance concern due to them loading whenever you encounter another player."

https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1683190415137157120

 

[Reinhardt]

what? you want more stash space? throwing random xXxTrannySorcerexXx and xir stash into your game is the best we can do.

 

[Kjaska]

I found this video pretty good, because you get 2 different perspectives in 1 video. One from a hardcore D2 gamer and one from a casual WoW-fag. It was pretty interesting to see where these two coalesce and where they diverge in opinion.



partial tl;dw:

- scaling ruins everything and has no reason to be in the game, both go into detail on why
- casual thinks gold is useless, pro says gold is the most useful it has ever been in any of the diablers
- casual thinks that the game is mind-numbingly easy and doesn't want to play for 30 hours until "it gets good", pro elaborates on how even on normal D2 still had big difficulty spikes that made it more interesting and memorable
- casual notices how there is a "recommended level" for quests but it is always your level, pro finds it halaris
- casual hates the absence of load-outs, pro agrees that the re-speccing in D4 is way too cumbersome and impractical
- casual hates the season mechanic and doesn't want to lose progress, pro loves seasons but agrees that they make no sense in D4 because it lacks an economy
- casual hates the always online limitation, pro would find it more tolerable if there were actual social features in the game present



- new Season content is fairly out of the way
- new "Malignant Hearts" are essentially a gem for your gear and only enhance builds, don't enable new builds
- Mathil had a 4 hour window where he saw no Malignant mobs
- it's not enough extra content to warrant a new playthrough

I have an IRL friend who got D4 and played it with a group of her friends during initial launch. She told me nobody on her friend list played D4 during the Season start.

The big PoE stream this week will have a lot of slack to pick up.