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Lacrymas

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I liked the focus on body horror and grotesque imagery. Too bad it's attached to an awful game.
 

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motherfucker

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Considering how almost none of the expansion's announced content is what fans actually asked for, I'm fully ready for this thing to not feature runes. Because trav runs with no HR drops is something this dev team would unironically do
 

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Honestly, the writing is worse than D3. D3 is just a generic silly cartoon fantasy. D4 tries to pretend be look dark and edgy, but it's actually filled with bunch of stupid and illogical plot twists.
 
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ArchAngel

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Honestly, the writing is worse than D3. D3 is just a generic silly cartoon fantasy. D4 tries to pretend be look dark and edgy, but it's actually filled with bunch of stupid and illogical plot twists.
It has too much filler shit but it is still miles above D3. Did you forget the butterfly that killed Cain. Unicorn secret level? Demon Lord that shows up to you every 10 minutes and taunts you like a 14 year old playing CoD? Angels all acting like retards? Fight in Haven that just looks like any other area? Diablo with high heels?
 

H. P. Lovecraft's Cat

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The expansion is going to be better than DA4 and Avowed combined, LOL!

Say what you want about D4 but the campaign was p good and they did a great job of setting Mephisto up as the big bad. He was the best part of D4's story.
 

H. P. Lovecraft's Cat

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The funny thing about Diablo is he isn't a very good depiction of Satan. He has the iconic demon look and that's about it. Mephisto shares far more similarities with Satan. He's charming, clever, and manipulative.
 

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The expansion is going to be better than DA4 and Avowed combined, LOL!

Say what you want about D4 but the campaign was p good and they did a great job of setting Mephisto up as the big bad. He was the best part of D4's story.

Campaign was a piece of shit and the designers had 4 seasons to prove they are braindead monkeys wasting art resources. They got lucky marketing and art departments sold the shit out of this game so Blizzard doubled down on it. Then they got lucky again PoE2 is luling around instead of releasing. But they are so INCREDIBLY SHIT, they can't even figure out one of the most basics genres out there.
 

Old Hans

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ive been playing this with some friends and what a mess. nothing feels good. just items drops left and right to the point where you just stop caring at all, just to speed you along to some non existent end game
 

abija

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There's plenty of end game now. Or, to be more precise, there's enough content to have a decent end game, maybe even good.
It's not used well because because the designers don't know the genre, lack common sense and basic math skills.
 

motherfucker

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Endgame consists of 1(one) dungeon and upgrade system that isn't required for anything except for that dungeon. Uber unique farming(pre-S4 endgame) can hardly qualify as such now that you're showered with summon mats.
 

abija

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They have 7 bosses, nightmare dungeons, pit, the gimmick ladder thingie and whatever seasonal shit is going on in the open world (or helltides). As I said the content is there. The fact that you end up only farming pit is the absolute failure of the designers.
 

ArchAngel

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They have 7 bosses, nightmare dungeons, pit, the gimmick ladder thingie and whatever seasonal shit is going on in the open world (or helltides). As I said the content is there. The fact that you end up only farming pit is the absolute failure of the designers.
7 bosses that need some component that never dropped and I brought two characters to lvl 100.. apparently it only drops from pit lvl 30+ or something which means there is only pit farming as endgame and that got boring after doing 5 pits. I brought two characters to 100 and quit.
 

Reever

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Honestly, the writing is worse than D3. D3 is just a generic silly cartoon fantasy. D4 tries to pretend be look dark and edgy, but it's actually filled with bunch of stupid and illogical plot twists.
While the writing in D4 is pretty bad especially for a few of the characters (lorath and the girl who's name I forgot) I still find it much better than D3. Not a high bar to reach but at least D4 was somewhat interesting and had *some* interesting plot hooks that I remember positively like the guy being absorbed into the tree in act 2 (?), the tree of whispers and the whole sequence in the swamp, Inarius being a genuine asshole, Mephisto (even though that "plot twist" was so visible). I also think Lilith's character was somewhat interesting though I've seen this is a pretty hot take.
D3 on the other hand, the only "memorable" moments are because of how horrible the writing was. Deckard Cain and Leah are the obvious ones alongside whatever the fuck Belial was (Lord of lies my ass). I could write a fucking essay on how bad and uninteresting the whole nephalem plotline was.
The one thing that I remember from d3 positively is the cutscene with tyrael vs imperius. If the game tried to be less serious in the story department (and no, unicorn island doesn't count) and had more action shlock like that I would've liked the game better.
 

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Honestly, the writing is worse than D3. D3 is just a generic silly cartoon fantasy. D4 tries to pretend be look dark and edgy, but it's actually filled with bunch of stupid and illogical plot twists.
While the writing in D4 is pretty bad especially for a few of the characters (lorath and the girl who's name I forgot) I still find it much better than D3. Not a high bar to reach but at least D4 was somewhat interesting and had *some* interesting plot hooks that I remember positively like the guy being absorbed into the tree in act 2 (?), the tree of whispers and the whole sequence in the swamp, Inarius being a genuine asshole, Mephisto (even though that "plot twist" was so visible). I also think Lilith's character was somewhat interesting though I've seen this is a pretty hot take.
D3 on the other hand, the only "memorable" moments are because of how horrible the writing was. Deckard Cain and Leah are the obvious ones alongside whatever the fuck Belial was (Lord of lies my ass). I could write a fucking essay on how bad and uninteresting the whole nephalem plotline was.
The one thing that I remember from d3 positively is the cutscene with tyrael vs imperius. If the game tried to be less serious in the story department (and no, unicorn island doesn't count) and had more action shlock like that I would've liked the game better.
I don't even know how I feel about this. It's like trying to decide whether you'd prefer the diarrhea slurry you're sucking back to be smooth or to have some chunks.
 

Reever

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I don't even know how I feel about this. It's like trying to decide whether you'd prefer the diarrhea slurry you're sucking back to be smooth or to have some chunks.
I hear you on that one (though I wish you were less descriptive). I do however think that the story is at least passable, especially for an ARPG.
 

abija

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7 bosses that need some component that never dropped and I brought two characters to lvl 100.. apparently it only drops from pit lvl 30+ or something which means there is only pit farming as endgame and that got boring after doing 5 pits. I brought two characters to 100 and quit.

You are on crack. As the guy above my post said you get plenty of mats without even farming them the intended way. The material you probably refer to is for torment variants which drops from pit and world bosses and wolves rep this season and season journey.

And you're still missing the point completely that the content is there, designers fail in making use of it.
 

ArchAngel

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7 bosses that need some component that never dropped and I brought two characters to lvl 100.. apparently it only drops from pit lvl 30+ or something which means there is only pit farming as endgame and that got boring after doing 5 pits. I brought two characters to 100 and quit.

You are on crack. As the guy above my post said you get plenty of mats without even farming them the intended way. The material you probably refer to is for torment variants which drops from pit and world bosses and wolves rep this season and season journey.

And you're still missing the point completely that the content is there, designers fail in making use of it.
Yes I am talking about torment versions, the normal versions died in 10s (some in 5s) to my Druid Summoner.. hard to consider those fights bosses..

Then I tried them with my 100 lvl Sorc and they lived up to 30s and I got to see some of their mechanics and they are all super plain and boring compared to even older PoE bosses.

Then I tried only torment version I could without that super rare component which was Uber Lilith and she managed to rape my super DPS and very tanky Druid fast and I have better things to do than do 500 pits so I can mastercraft Druid's gear for slight boring stat boosts just so I can try Uber Lilith again.
 
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motherfucker

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Yeah stygian stones are incredibly scarce, people farm T100 for hundreds of runs without ever seeing any
 

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