Disco Elysium creative lead Robert Kurvitz was quietly fired from ZA/UM in late 2021, files lawsuit against them

[mondblut]

While actual pedos should be shot on sight, this whole idea that an older guy screwing a younger girl is somehow wrong and "gross" is a pile of horseshit pushed by a) post-wall feminists butthurt no one wants to fuck them and b) early 20s dudes one step away from inceldom butthrut that all the girls they know want to fuck dudes who are worth a shit and not they scrawny asses.

Dating a hot young woman is a proud tradition that's been going on since the dawn of time, and pretty much the main reason to become successful.

This, a thousand times this. If you haven't ever had a young dumb fangirl who looks up to you to fuck, you failed as a man, period.

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

This thread sure is bringing out all the pedos huh

 

[gurugeorge]

If Kurvitz was such a shitty boss, the team should have gotten on very well and been very productive in the time he was burnt out and absent.

So what great leaps and bounds did they make in that time?

They made Final Cut (with little input from the credited lead).

This was also the Covid era where productivity dropped across the board. Though in Robert's case, the productivity apparently dropped to 0.

According to the second-interviewed guy in that vid, at least the political faction quests were already outlined (by the whole team including him) before his leave of absence. I wonder how much else of Final Cut had already been sketched out? It's a good test, but I suppose difficult to verify publicly. Only those in the team will know if life improved with Kurvitz' absence or not.

I don't think it's necessarily bad leadership to be curt with your team, but it might be bad leadership not to notice that your team is getting pissed off with your attitude. I mean, I generally think that in a lot of professional circumstances, the team is working on comparative advantage, which means the the top two or three people could probably do the whole thing if they put their mind to it, and probably do it better than any of the rest of the team, but tasks are delegated so that they can do what they do best even better (in Kurvitz' case, world-build, write dialogues, etc.). At least, that's how it goes theoretically. In the real world, most teams have a good deal of human ballast, with most of the real work being done by a few (sometimes rewarded, sometimes not, for that extra contribution). (In the real world also, teams are best when they're all-male, precisely so that emotional nonsense doesn't come into it. One can't say for sure, of course, but just by past experience, the woman is probably the nigger in the woodpile It is NEVER a good idea to mix business with pleasure.)

 

[gurugeorge]

You know how in old school TTRPGs it was common place to bring a ten foot pole to check for traps. Therefore if you didn't and then fell for a trap. It was your fault so stop moaning. As someone who has dealt with investors in game dev before I can say the most basic of things you must do before accepting investor money of any kind for any reason is READ YOUR FUCKING CONTRACT.

Don't have one? Make one. No the investor's word is not good enough. The "look in the eye and firm handshake" isn't good enough either. CONTRACTS you woke communist pond scum. Don't give me that "No ethical consumption under capitalism." no matter how devout you claim to be you still live in a capitalist system. People don't just decide to live in your system because you shouted loud enough. Get a contract, if they don't like it negotiate, any weird and dodgy things about the deal will come out if you force negotiation and you can make an informed decision from that. If you don't like the negotiations, do not accept the investor money. End of. Dodgy investors are the number 1 ruiner of any business. Any responsible business owner makes sure they are safe before accepting money. It's not a gift horse. It's a bear trap spray painted gold.

When you accept investor money you are accepting the investor having a portion of ownership of your business. So many game devs don't understand beyond "money man gives me money to make game" and then are shocked that the guy who owns a percentage of your company is using that percentage to get what he wants. If you don't like that don't accept investor money and find some other way to fund your game. But you can't. So understand the deal with the devil you are making before you make it.

I don't know if it's the same in the games industry, but in music having a good lawyer on your side makes well over half the difference between success and failure. Getting a good contract presupposes "getting a lawyer you can trust" - which means a) you have to have been "in the biz" for a while to know who's who and what's what, b) you have to have a good drug dealer so you can ply said legal eagle with enough coke to make them feel like they're part of something cool

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

In the most predictable plot twist ever, commies start to fight each other over money within 5 minutes of cashing their first paycheck.

 

[Tacgnol]

While actual pedos should be shot on sight, this whole idea that an older guy screwing a younger girl is somehow wrong and "gross" is a pile of horseshit pushed by a) post-wall feminists butthurt no one wants to fuck them and b) early 20s dudes one step away from inceldom butthrut that all the girls they know want to fuck dudes who are worth a shit and not they scrawny asses.

Dating a hot young woman is a proud tradition that's been going on since the dawn of time, and pretty much the main reason to become successful.

This, a thousand times this. If you haven't ever had a young dumb fangirl who looks up to you to fuck, you failed as a man, period.

She was 14.

Not gonna convince me that isn't extremely fucked up.

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

"women peak before they've gone through puberty" -codex

 

[Roguey]

(In the real world also, teams are best when they're all-male, precisely so that emotional nonsense doesn't come into it. One can't say for sure, of course, but just by past experience, the woman is probably the nigger in the woodpile It is NEVER a good idea to mix business with pleasure.)

Ah yes reading https://academic.oup.com/ej/article-abstract/130/627/716/5715606?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false was amusing.

Extending a two-player public goods game and a minimum effort game by an additional pre-play stage that informs team members about their mutual likeability, we find that female teams lower their contribution to the public good in the event of low likeability, while male teams achieve high levels of co-operation irrespective of the level of mutual likeability. In mixed-sex teams, both women’s and men’s contributions depend on mutual likeability.

The mere presence of women destroys camaraderie, absolutely devastating to mixed-sex teams if they all don't really like each other.

 

[Decado]

I'm having trouble following this whole thing but here's the main question: did the commies get fired?

Lol.

Glad to see that all of these terrible people are getting hosed. Communists and their ilk are misanthropic, mentally ill disasters -- miserable human wreckage on legs. Everything bad that happens to a communist is still less than what they deserve.

 

[Camel]

Assuming he started dating her at 14-16 that's absolutely not okay. Even if it was legal. It gets foggier if they knew each other but didn't get together until she was 20 or something.

Assuming is key here. It’s not different from bitter old feminists complaining when DiCaprio dates another supermodel since she was 18 and breaks up with her when she’s 25.

 

[mondblut]

She was 14.

Not gonna convince me that isn't extremely fucked up.

She was 14 when she joined their commie book cult. Who said a man is obligated not to be previously acquainted with a chick when they start sleeping together? Her seething classmate crying in impotent raeg as his childhood crush is taken away for defloration?

Also, if 14 was legal in Estonia back in the day, that settles it. Seethe, commiefornians.

 

[Tacgnol]

She was 14.

Not gonna convince me that isn't extremely fucked up.

She was 14 when she joined their commie book cult. Who said a man is obliged not to be previously acquainted with a chick when they start sleeping together? Her seething classmate crying in impotent raeg as his childhood crush is taken away for defloration?

Also, if 14 was legal in Estonia back in the day, that settles it.

12 is probably legal in some shithole banana republic.

Doesn't make it morally right for some dude in his late 20s to fuck it.

 

[Darth Roxor]

i remember when i was in the first year of high school (around 16-yo) and there was this girl with a supposedly 24-yo boyfriend in my class (his existence was never proven so it's still up in the air if he was a meme), and even back then everyone around thought it was fucked up

meanwhile nomen omen kurwitz of 25 or whatever grooming a girl of 14 in his cool commie collective is all fine and dandy hmmmm

 

[mondblut]

Doesn't make it morally right for some dude in his late 20s to fuck it.

Morally no, orally yes!

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

Doesn't make it morally right for some dude in his late 20s to fuck it.

Morally no, orally yes!

kys

 

[mondblut]

i remember when i was in the first year of high school (around 16-yo) and there was this girl with a supposedly 24-yo boyfriend in my class (his existence was never proven so it's still up in the air if he was a meme), and even back then everyone around thought it was fucked up

Hell hath no fury like a schoolboy scorned.

Sometimes I suspect that the age of consent laws are implemented not to protect muh innocence of schoolgirls. Its purpose is to ensure that at least some schoolboys have a chance at actually losing their virginity with their crush and surviving into adulthood.

 

[Axioms]

Man no wonder Junta scrubbed all his association with this place. This is why I usually stay in strat/sim, far less human filth infesting it.

 

[Infinitron]

i remember when i was in the first year of high school (around 16-yo) and there was this girl with a supposedly 24-yo boyfriend in my class (his existence was never proven so it's still up in the air if he was a meme), and even back then everyone around thought it was fucked up

Latin Americans, any comments?

 

[Feargus Jewhart]

ITT: pedophiles telling on themselves.

 

[Roguey]

ITT: pedophiles telling on themselves.

*ephebophiles

 

[Maxie]

Man no wonder Junta scrubbed all his association with this place. This is why I usually stay in strat/sim, far less human filth infesting it.

he did so to avoid pedo charges

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

Junta is a harmonious person. He is both a pedophile, like leftist Kurvitz, and a dick sucker for corporates.

 

[Axioms]

Given that Junta wanted Kurvitz's girl, my new conspiracy theory, which is absolutely not true but just for fun, is that he was part of the effort to get rid of Kurvitz, but one of the people who wanted to keep Helen so he himself could get in her pants, and potentially other staffers. Helen was let go last for a reason.

 

[communard]

Gossip is feminine behaviour. The internet has turned everyone into a menopausal housewife mentally.

 

[Maxie]

Gossip is feminine behaviour. The internet has turned everyone into a menopausal housewife mentally.

defending your pedophile ilk